[GhostKing]

01/24/2014 at 6:49 pm

@eldrin81 said:

Ah, you must be talking about the stuff having to do with being a pet or ‘dog’. Ya I dunno, kinks and fetishes get pretty far out there. I mean I once saw one of those parody picture memes with the captions floating around years ago that was poking fun at some porn site that catered to amputee fetishes. and I’m like ummm, okay…to each his own I guess, but good lord…

I don’t know if either of you have played dating sims, but I recently played through two storylines of “Katawa Shoujo” (roughly translating to “Crippled Girl”-including the derogatory connotation of the word “cripple”). The game takes you through romance arcs with any of 5 girls at a school for students with special medical needs. TWO of these girls are double amputees. The others are blind, deaf mute, and a girl with severe burns on the right side of her body and PTSD.

That may sound like it’s meant to cater to a certain niche, but it never plays that way. The characters are very human, and in fact their medical conditions aren’t really treated as fetishes at all. Even Hanako, the burn victim with PTSD who barely speaks to anyone, and who I thought was charming because of her shyness, actually gets extremely frustrating. Though at first you can get her to open up to you, you sort of reach a plateau where you realize that you can only do so much for her, and that you can’t just fix her with an anguished declaration of love or a well-timed hug.

I guess my point is that the game, despite prominently featuring these things, doesn’t really use them like fetish material. This was turning into a long post but I figured I’d spare you the details. Then again: I also wanted to mention it because the game is free and incredibly well-written, if anybody’s interested. There are sex scenes in the game, which is typical for visual novels, but two major exceptions: first, a lot of the sex scenes are terribly awkward and they’re not wish fulfillment. They are, however, realistic because the characters might not be ready for it, and it becomes painfully obvious in the act. Second, there’s an option to disable the sex scenes, but that’s not really a good idea because you always miss part of the story. It’s not porn so much as a natural outgrowth of the characters’ motives.

For example Hanako, the girl with the burns, takes you to her room and strips to her underwear to show you her burns. Then both characters sort of mechanically get on her bed and ****, but it’s not like it’s some great thing. It would feel even stranger if they didn’t, but neither character ends up enjoying the sex.
Slavery seems like an odd choice for a person like me who’s always played the nice guy, but the fact is I’ve been fantasizing about bondage nonstop since age 7, long before I heard the word “bondage.” I also love the idea of having my girlfriend wear a collar. So it’s been hard to reconcile those beliefs, but here I am.

[GhostKing]

01/24/2014 at 3:53 am

@eldrin81 said:
And she seems to bring up my manhood in conversation out of the blue as well as if she is thinking about it, which is in the script.

Yeah, sounds kinda like when girls used to act strange around you in school. They’re acting weird, sure, but they’re acting in regard to _you_. It sounds like you’re making progress. Those thoughts are becoming more common to her, and it’s just a question of how hard her old habits will die. Time is on your side, as the audios will just keep wearing her down. So, I think you’re on the right track.

[GhostKing]

01/24/2014 at 3:46 am

Very interesting discussion here. I thought a lot about how I was going to reply and then tossed like two or three entire posts because I felt they wouldn’t really get my message across, so I won’t try again. But I will say that the comment about “alpha-male women” above is a valid observation.

I personally like to think of relationships and slavery in therapeutic terms. “How can this help her?” I always need a reason to start a relationship, at least that some good can come of it. So maybe if I meet a girl who’s been abused, and I have, I try to think of ways for me to, if not heal them, at least give them a safe place to be loved and feel cared for. My kind of slavery involves lots of love, attention, and cuddles so the girl knows they’re in the right place.

But not too much, because that’s just as bad. I mean, I get kind of maternal sometimes when I’m too caught up in my adoration of someone.

[GhostKing]

01/24/2014 at 3:00 am

@Fizbin said:

Just a word of caution – unless you are making custom files, there really isn’t a way to tie the feelings back to you.

I get what you’re saying. That’s up to old-fashioned people skills, and is not something I’m particularly worried about. However she’s got loads of feelings for me already. As long as I occasionally work Master/slave dynamics into the conversation (presumably something about 50 Shades since she has read that) to show that I’m comfortable with the subject matter and that it’s okay for her to be as well, and show myself as a safe, trustworthy, and dominant presence to her, I think she’ll see reason soon enough.

[GhostKing]

01/24/2014 at 12:05 am

@eldrin81 said:

Most of us get the best results from having the girl listen to the audio’s all night on a loop. And of course you can edit the name and properties of the mp3, like album and artist so she doesn’t know exactly whats in them.

Yes, that’s a good thing to point out.
Me: “Here, try this. It’s like chill-out music.”
She: [reads]
“Oh great, more foreign music. I think I’ll stick with Lady Gaga…”

[GhostKing]

01/23/2014 at 11:58 pm

I think what I’m going to do is start with “Accepting Slavery,” simply because the audio sounds better along with the Rain Converter. “Forming a Slave’s Mind,” while it has advantages, sounds fuzzy in terms of the rain sounds. It’s an older file, so that’s understandable. Anyway, I’m gonna splice the two files together into one mp3 and tell girlie to play it to herself overnight and whenever else she can.

I’m excited about a lot of other things, like having her dress up for me, but I’m going to start out with these two on a single file. The converter will help her get the message while AS will start to put her mind in the right place. I’ll let these work for a while and keep you all updated.

[GhostKing]

01/23/2014 at 11:06 pm

Yes, agreed on all counts. I’ve read a bunch of posts on here and I’m figuring I want to stick with two tracks, one of which has to be the converter. I like both of the slavery tracks for different reasons. I love the one because it has the girl fantasizing about it, which I absolutely love, but the other one has “I will do anything to have a Master” which is awesome too. Were I awash in shekels, I would go gold and try making my own script from the get-go.

By the way, she has already acknowledged that she has a problem. Also, we don’t see each other much so I’m taking kind of a “fire and forget” approach here. I’m just going to pass the audios off to her and let her marinate for a while; I’ll just tell her they’re something I use for relaxation and they’d help her too. Which, according to some of the other posts here, is true! And when I see her after that, I’ll just make sure to bring up the right subjects. She’s already pretty submissive, partially because of how vocal she is about liking me, and she gives me a lot of preferential treatment (no, not that kind… atm). She is also, luckily, not very feminist and she has quite traditional views about men, in that they should be in charge. So from what I can see, she should be open to “creative solutions.” I also believe that if I told her, “You know, I’d definitely like it if you did (xyz),” she’d pick up on it, because she’s not very aware of my interests, but since she’s a girl, there are countless simple and easy things she could do that I could reward her for doing.

Thanks for all the ideas so far, by the way.

[GhostKing]

01/23/2014 at 9:49 pm

I’ll have a look at that, thanks. Maybe it’s a little too drastic to begin with?