Wife Training

[trainer81]

08/17/2012 at 4:18 am

I started my wife on the Amy converter last night. I’m doing the silent file. She shows absolutely no indication of hearing the squeaks, even though it seems very loud to me. Kinda weird, I’m five years older and I thought hearing those frequencies was age-related, but I’m happy she hasn’t picked up on it.

Tonight was interesting – she put a movie on in our bedroom and I put the file on. The movie was dumb and I was just reading when it occurred to me that I wasn’t hearing the squeaks. I realized I had placed my phone with the speaker down so it was very muffled. I turned it over and I was literally BLASTED by the squeaks, but again, she showed zero indication. I find this very interesting, because it’s clearly frequency related, not volume. Anyway, after about ten minutes, she was ready for sleeping. I don’t know for sure that it was related to the file, but I just looked at the script again, and with all the references to relaxing, i think it might be. I sometimes do a relaxation script with her (an actual one, not subliminal) when she is feeling stressed, so I think she may be reacting to the “relax” since she is already a bit conditioned to that. Or maybe she was just really tired and it was a big coincidence.

Thinking of some custom scripts… I definitely want to open her mind to hypnosis. We did the relaxation a few times and then stopped and she basically said to me that she kept thinking I had ulterior motives so she wasn’t comfortable doing that. So I promised her I didn’t and that she would wake up if I tried anything she didn’t like, and I’ve been relaxing her only since then. But she’s right – I DO have ulterior motives (to hypnotize her) and I need to break down those walls. I think doing it subliminally could work.

Also, I wonder if there is a way to do a “truth-telling” script. Basically, my wife is a really good liar. I’ve seen her lie to friends, family, coworkers in very convincing fashion. I’d have to be an idiot to think she hasn’t lied to me, but the question is how serious? Most of her lies are white lies that, in general, don’t cause any harm. But every so often she pulls off a whopper and I just have to know what she’s hiding from me. Don’t know if this can be done subliminally, maybe I’ll just work on the hypnosis thing and get the truth that way?

I’ve read through the forums, including the old ones, and I appreciate all the posts up to this point, they’ve been a big help. I’ve never been great at keeping a journal, but I’ll try to keep this going.

How soon do people think a new file should be added to the Amy converter? I thought after a week, I’d add LHO or submissive wife in a loop with the converter.

Thanks in advance…
-acw

[Fizbin]

08/17/2012 at 5:09 am

Hi AC,

Welcome to the Dream Girls forum!

First, if you can hear the sounds loudly – turn it down! Even if she doesn’t consciously hear it (which is possible no matter her age if she has listened to a lot of loud music over the years), if it is too loud it could damage both the “speaker” in your phone, and possibly your own hearing at that level.

It sounds like a couple days of converter should be enough for her, though you could always sprinkle it in if you find it helps. I never used or needed the converter for my wife. Since she’s already trance-prone, you may not need to stick with it at all.

I’m a big fan of Submissive Thoughts Wife, but LHO is also good. What you might do is loop those two. Although there isn’t a file that addresses lying directly, Respectful Behavior includes some elements about giving direct answers. I would suggest you have RB after STW, as RB has a lot of Master references and STW includes a Master association as well.

What you may find, is the combination of respect, obedience, and submission will make her more receptive of any ideas you have, including the hypnosis.

[trainer81]

08/17/2012 at 2:39 pm

Thanks for the feedback. I was probably exaggerating a tad about how loud it was. It just seemed very audible to me, but I have to sleep in the same room, so I kept it low enough that I could still hear it, but barely.

Yeah, my wife did a hypnosis class when she was pregnant, so I think she is definitely more prone than average. So I may go ahead and start her on the loop of STW and LHO like you suggested.

We’re actually flying coast to coast today (6 hours nonstop) and I’m toying with the idea of playing the converter to see if it makes her pass out on the flight.

I assume that these files focus on changing her behavior with me, but not with others (unless specifically stated, like “Break Up”). That’s how the files seem to read to me. It wouldn’t really suit her career to be submissive at work…

I’m probably going to avoid the files that make certain permanent changes. I like the idea of Barbie Doll, but again, that wouldn’t work for her career if it’s a permanent change. However, if I can eventually hypnotize her, then I can probably trigger her to become a Barbie Doll temporarily, but revert back to her normal self in the end.

[Fizbin]

08/17/2012 at 6:25 pm

The converter is meant to both break down her resistance to listening to the files at all, and eventually addict her to them such that she actively wants to listen. Of course, for that last, she would need to know she’s listening to “something”. That’s where the rain files come in. There has been some thought in the forums about starting with the silent converter and then switching to the rain to get her to actively listen to whatever files you want. Of course, all she needs to know is that each rain file has a different “patter” so that she doesn’t get bored with the same thing…

I would not suggest playing these files on a plane (or in any other high-security facility). Even though you can’t hear them well, they are actually pumping out some significant volume, and quite possibly could impact any flight recordings of the passenger cabin (who knows what gets recorded in these post 9-11 days). Even if they didn’t block the real sounds, they would trigger any metering equipment to show they were present.

[sdalie]

08/19/2012 at 1:14 pm

My experience is play the rain track to set volume. Then play silent at this level.
Personally I used audacity and copied the amy with a longer nature track or two.
When I take her training away for a few days she now begs me to play it again while we are going to sleep

Patience, patience patience.

[Islander711]

08/20/2012 at 7:54 am

That could be why my wife got irritable this past week, not getting her fix of Amy. WOW

[trainer81]

09/11/2012 at 2:53 pm

I have to apologize for not updating this more frequently. Been super busy. Anyway, it seems like the subliminals have been working very well with my wife.

I do think my wife is a bit more susceptible than average. While she is outwardly a take-charge, Type A personality with a high-level executive position, she does have a submissive streak in her. The problem is that she was very inconsistent with how she expressed it, to the point that it starting driving me crazy. For instance, we had one weekend getaway where I specifically told her that she was going to obey me the whole time and she happily agreed. (Best weekend of my life.)

But back home, while she is occasionally submissive, there are times when she just balks at me taking charge, so I finally broke down and signed up here. Very good move.

I had her on Amy for just a couple of days and then put her on a playlist of STW, His Happiness Sledgehammer, My Husband is My Master, and My Marriage.

One cute thing that we’ve done since we got married is we often refer to each other as “Husband” and “Wife.” So I think she already thinks of those terms as names, not just our roles. That probably helps a lot when she hears “husband” and “wife” in the subliminals.

So my wife is generally more sexual than average and is generally willing and happy to please me. given that, it’s hard to say whether it’s the subliminals or not, but I feel like there are just too many instances of good behavior.

After a week on the above playlist, we had one night where we had sex three times! (I may be more impressed with myself and my stamina than with her, lol…)

She has been stressing to me a *lot* in recent weeks how important it is that I be happy and she wants to make me happy. If there is anything I want/need to be happy, she wants me to tell her. This is very new behavior for her. I mean, I’m sure she has always wanted me to be happy, but she hasn’t vocalized it to this extent in the past.

She’s always been great at giving BJs also, but she doesn’t swallow, so I played wcs for her one night. The next night, she put on some lingerie, dropped to her knees and sucked me off. I didn’t cum in her mouth, but she was very excited to have me cum on her body.

Last week, I switched the playlist and I now have her on His Happiness, Feminine dress code, and wcs. She owns a lot of lingerie and dozens of high heels. Additionally, she loves getting her nails done and she is going through laser hair removal in all the right places. (Highly recommended, btw.) That said, more often than not, she will still come to bed in cotton pajamas or something similar. After a couple of nights on the new playlist, she came to bed wearing lingerie. This surprised me because she had mentioned earlier that she wasn’t feeling well, so I assumed that there would be no sex that night. I asked her why she was wearing that outfit and she said I deserved to have a wife who dressed sexy. I agreed, but I said she was sending mixed messages. She said she was sorry and that she wanted to have sex with me, but she really wasn’t feeling good. Then she sucked me off.

[trainer81]

09/11/2012 at 3:15 pm

Just remembered something from Saturday. She was scheduled to get a manicure, but as she pulled out of the driveway, the car’s shuddered and the “check engine” light came on. I immediately took the car to my mechanic and she cancelled her appt. While I was at the mechanic, she texted me “Feeling very depressed.” Fortunately, my mechanic was able to diagnose the problem quickly and said I was okay to drive the car and bring it back on Monday. I called her salon and asked if she could still make her appt and they said yes.

I drove home and picked her up. She was still very irritable on the drive there, so we didn’t talk much.

90 mins later, we had the following exchange (W – wife, H – husband):

W: I am feeling much better.
H: I’m glad.
W: I don’t know why I was so sad this morning.
H: I know how much you love having this time for yourself. And I understand why you were depressed when it looked like it wouldn’t happen.
W: I was just in an odd mood this morning.
W: I do love this time and I like looking pretty for you.
H: I thought you were fine until the car broke.
H: You are very pretty. I’m a lucky man.
W: You are going to love love love my nails!
H: Can’t wait!
W: I talked to hair guy today about my hair. Will schedule that too. [note – I’ve been pushing her to go back to her natural hair color. She was resistant for months, but now she has fully embraced it.]
H: Great!
W: Am working on becoming your ideal woman.
H: I know you are. That makes me very happy.
H: You are a wonderful wife.
W: I want your cock in my mouth tonight.
H: I want that too. You definitely are my ideal woman.
W: If you are feeling up to it, I’d like you to fuck my mouth from above. [note – she phrased it like that because I injured my leg last week]
H: Wow, suddenly I feel all better! I love fucking your mouth
W: Only if you feel up to it
H: God you are so incredibly sexy
H: I want you to wear something sexy tonight
W: Pick something out for me

I picked her up and she had gotten bright red nails. Keep in mind that it was only about noon at this point, so I had a looooong wait ahead of me… Later that afternoon:

H: Your nails are super hot
W: I’m glad you think so
H: Can’t wait till tonight…
W: Me too
H: The red nails change my idea of what you should wear…
W: What should I wear?
H: I’m thinking something red…

She was true to her word that night. She put on the outfit I picked out and then I fucked her mouth from above. I may have aggravated my injury, but it was worth it… (Still didn’t cum in her mouth, but I have a feeling we’ll get there.)

[tonguester4_69]

09/11/2012 at 4:41 pm

It seems like the files are really working.I wonder,have you asked her to let you cum in her mouth? My wife is much like yours in that while she enjoys sucking my cock,she doesn’t like me cumming in her mouth. After i explained to he that it is much more enjoyable to finish in her mouth,she has been trying. The last time she even swallowed!So maybe when she asks what she can do to make you happy,mention it. It couldn’t hurt,and if she balks you can always drop it, or play it off somehow.

[trainer81]

09/18/2012 at 2:57 pm

I was away this past weekend, leaving Friday morning, and arriving back home yesterday morning. I’ve been playing the files on my phone, which I obviously needed with me, so she didn’t get to listen while I was gone. Nevertheless, she seemed much more bothered by my absence than usual. We’ve been apart for weeks at a time in the past, but she was calling/texting me multiple times a day telling me how much she missed me. When I would ask her what she would do with me when I got home, she would say that she wanted to use her mouth on me. So it seemed that the wife cocksucker file was still working even though she was on break from the files.

When she got home from work last night, she kept hinting about her plans for me later that night. As she was putting the kids to bed, she walked by our bedroom, where I was just wearing a pair of boxers. She stared at my crotch for several seconds and then looked back up and said, “You make my mouth water.”

Normally, we put the kids to bed and then we watch TV or talk for a bit because we don’t want to start anything while they’re still awake. This time she closed the doors to the bedroom and pulled me into our walk-in closet and shut the door. “I’m sorry, I can’t wait any longer. May I?”

I was rather stunned. She definitely has used the kids being awake as an excuse in the past, but here she was, begging to suck my cock, knowing that both kids were still awake. I nodded and removed my boxers and she dropped to her knees and went to work.

Most of the time, she gives BJs as foreplay, and I had initially thought last night would be the same. When we’re apart, she usually craves sex as much as I do. But right away, I could tell that she just wanted to get me off.

As I mentioned above, though, she rarely lets me cum in her mouth, and when she does, she never swallows. As I get closer, she tends to stop sucking and does more stroking with her hands so that I cum on her, but not in her.

I was wondering if it would be different this time, and when she stopped sucking and started stroking, I assumed it wouldn’t be. But after a few seconds, she resumed sucking, with more vigor than before and it wasn’t much longer before I came. She gagged a little bit, but she swallowed it all. Success!

I spent the rest of the night telling her how amazing she was and how happy she made me. I’m big on positive reinforcement and that seems to help. She called me this morning from work and I told her that I couldn’t stop thinking about last night and she kind of chuckled and said, “More to come…”

[Islander711]

09/18/2012 at 3:59 pm

Great success

[sdalie]

09/18/2012 at 4:03 pm

Congrats!
Always good to hear success.

[Fizbin]

09/18/2012 at 4:05 pm

Congratulations on the huge success!

Are you still on the same playlist? What about general submissiveness lately?

[trainer81]

09/18/2012 at 4:25 pm

Thanks guys…

Fizbin – She was on His Happiness, STW, My Marriage, and My Husband is My Master for a few weeks. Then the last two weeks, I had her on His Happiness, wife cocksucker, and Feminine dress code.

I’m suspecting that there is a very strong submissive (perhaps even slave) streak inside her, but that there’s some kind of internal conflict that keeps it from fully presenting itself. She is very Type A and is very driven professionally.

So even when she would give me BJs in the past, it was typically me lying on my back and her on top of me – even though BJs are generally thought of as a submissive act, she still would do it in a way that she felt in control.

But you can see how that’s changed – last week she wanted me to fuck her mouth with me on top. Last night, even though she did sort of “take charge” by leading me to the closet, she did pause and ask “May I?” before dropping to her knees.

I’m rather astonished at how quickly these files seem to be working. The only thing that makes sense is what i said above – she must have a strong submissive streak on a subconscious level. Under normal circumstances, her conscious mind is able to keep that from exerting itself fully. Yes, she will act submissive on occasion, but by and large, she doesn’t. She also does it in secret – I’ve caught her reading 50 Shades and other books that are even more explicit, as well as finding porn on her computer (from kink.com, which specializes in submissives/slaves). You can see why I get frustrated with her, knowing there’s a sub/slave in there somewhere, yet getting rejected when I try to be her dom.

But now, these files seem to be tilting the balance and letting her sub side come out more. This may be a little aggressive, but I’ve decided to go with Accepting Slavery and I am a Slut, (as well as My Husband is my Master since the first two files specifically reference “Master” and not “Husband”).

I’m starting her on that tonight. Will keep you guys posted…

[Fizbin]

09/18/2012 at 4:41 pm

STW does have a Master reference in it. It isn’t used often, but if you’ve been looping the file the thought is being planted.

That said, (other than the Slut, which may be a bit redundant ) this sounds like a mix that should bring these tendencies to the surface pretty strongly – especially if she responds as quickly to them as she did to the others.

[trainer81]

04/02/2013 at 3:52 pm

Well, I’ve been a huge slacker… lol

It’s actually been a few months since my wife has listened to any files, but I’m planning on going back to it today. For most of the fall, I just had her listen to His Happiness Husband and WCS. And for a while, we were spending lots of time in the closet, so WCS was definitely working…

But with holidays, work travel, vacations, I kind of lost the flow with the files for a bit. Interestingly, she did complain of having trouble sleeping for several weeks, I wonder if the absence of the files exacerbated that…

looking back, I have a couple thoughts/observations/questions.

First, are we to assume that these files will eventually lead to a *permanent* change? By this I mean, can we get to a level of reinforcement such that subconscious finally accepts the program fully, and thus the program is no longer necessary?

The reason I ask is because I did see changes with my wife and the His Happiness Sledgehammer. While it may be obvious that one would want their spouse to be happy, she became much more vocal about it while listening to that file. She would say to me, “I just want you to be happy.” And even though I would assume that to be the case, I can’t really recall her saying that to me before.

But beyond that, it’s actually the case that she *still* says it to me, even after months of not listening to it. Granted, this is a behavior that I think most spouses will readily accept, so hearing a sledgehammer of that file is almost certainly easier for her subconscious to accept, but the thought that it has been made permanent to some degree is rather exciting for other files.

On the other hand, WCS did not become permanent. As I think I’ve mentioned before, she’s always been good about giving BJs, but swallowing was never really part of it. That changed while she listened to WCS, but now she’s back to her old self (BJs yes, swallowing no).

For now, I think I will just put her back on those two tracks since they worked very well for me in the past. I can use this week to develop my overall plan going forward. My eventual goal is to have her become submissive/slave/obedient. There are obviously some good files for that, and I’m also considering customizing some on my own. I think sdalie’s ideas for incorporating trigger phrases are something I need to explore.

I saw someone else suggest this and was wondering how it’s working – if I play Wife CS followed by Slave CS, will that suggest to her that she is my slave? I don’t expect immediate results on that, but I’m just thinking if she listens to the same script back to back, where the only changes are “husband” to “master” then shouldn’t that eventually emerge the two identities into one? (i.e. husband = master)

I realize that STW ends with “My husband is my master” but I was wondering whether this way would be effective too. Any ideas?

[FaustsBoon]

04/02/2013 at 4:28 pm

Hey man…

As you’re referring to me, I feel obliged to chime in. Our efforts, goals, etc… seem the most similar to any other stories I have read on the forums, and as such, really look to your story as a learning experience which I can help apply to my own situation.

Thus far, my experience has been a microcosm of your own. I feel it is too soon to say too much buy 5/6 days into a similar program I am taking away many of the same impressions.

Behaviors that were already closest to the fore-front have changed fasted. My wife is more affectionate, is more inclined to help me do things when asked, and just seems to be making more of an effort to say “I love you” first, etc… These was things she already obviously believed/did, she is just doing it notably more, which I am viewing as positive.

She was always neutral on oral sex… doing so when I really really pushed for it, but never claiming to get much personal enjoyment out of it. She HAS given me a blowjob since starting (and a damn impressive one), but I can tell this is still the less “normal” behavior for her. She certainly doesn’t seem to want/crave it as I hoped she would, and the second one I requested was met with a gentle, but decisive “no”.

I DO sincerely hope behaviors become permanent. I want to run no more than 3 or 4 of the short subliminals in a routine at a time, and would love to feel confident that there is a point where they can be removed from the playlist. Logic seems to suggest though that easiest changes lock in soonest while broader ones take much more time.

I have decided to stay on my current list of LHO Sledgehammer, Submissive thoughts Wife, and Wife CS, Slave CS, for one full month, unchanged, regardless of my temptation. If a month causes profound and lasting changes, then I will move into a second phase.

And yes, i’m hoping STW, Wife CS, and Slave CS, will work in tandem to really gently, but circularly introduce the word Master, make Husband/Master synonymous, and lock in submissive thinking…. HOWEVER, i’m using logic, and from what i’m gathering subliminals and the human mind rarely work the way I would expect. :p

[trainer81]

04/02/2013 at 4:50 pm

I enjoyed reading your journal so far. Best of luck. I agree, we seem to be taking this in a similar direction.

I just rememebered that my wife will be away for ten days later this month. additionally, we will be apart for several weeks this summer. I have to think about how that may impact her training. I suppose I’ll get some idea this week, as I get her back on the files after months of being off…

There are actually several files (not just CS) that are the same in all respects *except* for master/husband/boyfriend.

So maybe instead of just his happiness and WCS, I will do both of his happiness (wife and slave) and CS (wife and slave). Should be good for a couple of weeks.

Down the road, maybe replace his happiness sledge with I am submissive sledge, again both (wife and slave)

FWIW, my understanding is that the subconscious mind is VERY logical, despite the general tendency of women to be irrational. (just kidding ladies) But yes, I do think that doubling up on some of these tracks should lead to the conclusion that husband = master. Someone else made the point that these sublims should be like computer code. Simple, to the point, nothing extraneous.

You make a good point about permanence. If nothing became permanent, you’re right, you could never remove them from the playlist…

[FaustsBoon]

04/02/2013 at 5:15 pm

Man… I genuinely wish we had a more active/talkative community here. Always lots of lurkers, but few people willing to talk despite the forums being a very judgement-free zone, from what I have seen.

I hate that there are essentially five of us here posting, comparing notes, etc… With more we could really combine our experiences and fine tune this system into something really, really special.

My thinking on the broader goals I have, is simply this… I need to be excessively patient which doesn’t come naturally to me. No matter what, if I can’t absolutely cement ONE specific behavior like regular, solicited and unsolicited oral sex… how could I train the aspects even less at the fore of my wife’s mind? As such… I try, I wait, I watch, I encourage… and GOD do I hope it works in the long run.

So I noticed your wife has, while on the program, really aggressively begged to blow you… Was this EVER in her nature prior? How did you foster it?

[FaustsBoon]

04/02/2013 at 5:28 pm

Oh, incidentally, what ever came of your experiment with “Accepting Slavery” etc…? In your last major post before today you mentioned embarking on it, but never shared what, if any, transitions or behaviors you witnessed?

[trainer81]

04/02/2013 at 5:45 pm

We ran into some marital issues around that time and I felt that trying to get her to accept slavery while we were struggling was just foolish. We had major issues to work out, which we have, and which is why I feel better about moving forward with this now. But at the time, I realized it wasn’t going to work, and went with “his happiness” because it seemed like the best file to use to help us get through the rocky times. and in hindsight, it seems to have worked. I kept WCS because who doesn’t love a good blow job?

But yeah, didn’t really get anywhere with that. The issues, frankly, were mostly my fault and I realized I needed to fix myself first before really moving forward with this. Never going to have her submit to me if she doesn’t have total faith and trust in me. I did some damage to that at the time, but I think we’re in a much better place now.

Regarding your other question – she’s always been great with BJs, but no, I don’t really recall her being that aggressive in the past. She has had days where she’s teased me, telling me she’s going to suck me off (later). But that was the first time that it felt like it was a burning need for her to blow me.

[FaustsBoon]

04/02/2013 at 5:55 pm

Interesting, regarding the BJs. I’ll admit, your recounting her grabbing you and essentially saying, “I need to, I can’t wait anymore…” was what cemented me on even adding the two CS programs. Behavior like that, regularly is absolutely my end-goal for those files, and the time i’ll feel like this program is 100% legit. I’ve already decided, if it does, i’m sending Trainer81 $500… because i’ll be so grateful.

I’m glad you mentioned the problems being your fault, because for a while I was thinking… if she has responded so well, how could she have introduced something so counter into the marriage. I’m glad it is working though and wish you well.

Meanwhile, I hope you’ll keep up regular updates again. IF I have to, so do you, as we’re kinda going through this together. :p

[trainer81]

04/02/2013 at 10:04 pm

Yeah, it was pretty hot… But like I said, she’s always been pretty good about giving them and enjoying them. I wasn’t even convinced that I’d see a difference, but I obviously did. She went from very good to great.

It sounds like your wife’s starting point is much further back, so you’ll have to be patient. She’s probably reacting to the CS files in the same way that my wife would react to smart shopper. lol. mostly kidding, but in these economic times, I may have to resort to using that at some point… haha

So starting tonight i’m thinking:
his happiness wife
wife cs
my husband is my master
his happiness slave
slave cs

I normally wouldn’t do five, but it’s a lot of repetition, so I think it should be ok

[FaustsBoon]

04/02/2013 at 10:10 pm

Alright man! Good luck. Keep us informed! I’ll be posting an update tomorrow as well as I already emailed the wife at work and told her that i’d love to spend some time being romantic together tonight.

In particular, please share anything you can that you think she responds to from the “slave” versions of files. I’m terribly curious as your experiment, even if all things go perfectly on my end, is essentially a window into my future, say two months or so down the road. :p

[trainer81]

04/03/2013 at 10:39 pm

Played the files last night and the wife woke me up early this morning because she was mad about something ridiculous. So dumb that I refuse to post what it was. She left for work in a huff and I laid in bed wondering what that was about. A half hour later, I had an email from her apologizing for her behavior, telling me she loved me and she felt terrible about how she acted. Since then, she’s been sweet to me all day via email and phone. Not sure what role, if any, the files played, although it did seem to me from prior experience that the his happiness files helped her get past her anger faster, so that might have happened this morning.

After looking at the wording of the files, thinking about changing His happiness to LHO. I think she’s pretty well absorbed the message of his happiness and LHO would take her a step further.

[FaustsBoon]

04/04/2013 at 1:09 pm

As you know, i’ve been using LHO too… but you know… from reading the script, I have no idea how/why it would be effective in my case. :p I say that, only because “honor” and “obey” in those contexts have no place in my wife’s vocabulary. As such, i’m not sure why her subconscious telling her to do something, in terms she never uses in daily life, would work.

[trainer81]

04/04/2013 at 1:14 pm

she said she didn’t sleep at all last night. not necessarily because of the files, she’s been having lots of stress at work and has had sleep problems before because of it. if it continues, I think i’ll switch to one of the converter files, because there’s a relaxation element to it.

[Fizbin]

04/04/2013 at 9:13 pm

Quote from FaustsBoon on April 4, 2013, 13:09
As you know, i’ve been using LHO too… but you know… from reading the script, I have no idea how/why it would be effective in my case. :p I say that, only because “honor” and “obey” in those contexts have no place in my wife’s vocabulary. As such, i’m not sure why her subconscious telling her to do something, in terms she never uses in daily life, would work.

This isn’t tying to her “daily” life, but into her subconscious. That’s where her fantasy life lives, along with the little girl who dreamed of promising to love honor and obey her handsome prince. This would be bringing those dreams and fantasies to the foreground. Granted there is a random element with regard to how her adult self interprets those desires…

[FaustsBoon]

04/04/2013 at 10:18 pm

Hopefully not TOO random.

If she WIFE CS’s someone at work… i’m going to be REALLY unhappy. :p

[Fizbin]

04/05/2013 at 1:08 am

Not likely.

[trainer81]

04/05/2013 at 5:55 pm

Changed it up again, but feel like I’ve got a list that’s working now….

She came home exhausted again, so I decided to change to:
Silent converter
LHO wife
CS wife

I don’t think she can deal with the master/slave tracks just yet. Too much shit going on at work, so I’m just gonna ease her into this.

I like the wording of the converter. When she got up this morning, she said she slept very well. I like to think the files played a significant role in that. Her work stress has remained the same throughout the week, so it seems rather likely.

Will stick with this lineup for the time being.

[FaustsBoon]

04/05/2013 at 6:41 pm

I’m choosing to remain cynical, so obviously I would question attributing one good night’s sleep to the Converter, but hey… if it works… who care!

I hope you’ve found the rosetta stone to unlocking your long-term plans, or continuing to do so as it already sounds like your first real go-around with this system seems to have left you in a better place.

For me… I likewise expected my wife to not be ready for the dom/sub master/slave language… but apparently expectations can be grossly wrong. Just when I was sure I should excise all such language from this first stage EVER, for her in this program, she surprised me with a willingness to at least entertain the IDEA, which I would REALLY like to attribute to “Submissive Thoughts Wife”.

Anyway… keep up the updates. I love reading them!

[trainer81]

04/06/2013 at 5:13 pm

OK, Mr. Cynical, she had another good night’s sleep, but due to technical difficulties, I was unable to play the files last night… LOL

That said, she was very affectionate last night. I asked her to touch me, and she spent 10-15 minutes massaging me from head to toe. Then she gave me a long lingering bj followed by sex. I could sense her hesitate, as if she was torn between finishing me off with her mouth or finishing with sex. I didn’t push since I was gonna be happy either way and I was curious to see what she would decide without any input from me. Next time I may give her a little nudge in the direction of finishing the bj…

Will stick with this lineup for the time being…

[Fizbin]

04/09/2013 at 10:30 am

Congratulations on the success!

[trainer81]

04/09/2013 at 2:45 pm

We’ve been pretty much holding steady. Lots of affection, a little more sex than usual, which is surprising because we had visitors this past weekend. I actually had to “shush” her one night, lol. She seemed disappointed last night when I kissed her good night and left the bedroom (national championship game!!) which I took as a good sign. She called me first thing this morning and said she was going to leave work early, spend time with the kids this afternoon, and then spend some quality alone time with me tonight.

I’m getting very eager to reintroduce the submissive files, but am forcing myself to remain patient. Looking ahead a little, we’ve got ten days apart coming up, Apr 24 – May 4. It probably doesn’t make sense to change my lineup before then. Maybe I’ll just add feminine dress code or something like that.

I think I may make a custom file to help the transition between happy/loving/doting wife to submissive/obedient/slave wife. I’ve mentioned my own mistakes, and while she seems like she’s outwardly happy with me, I do wonder whether her subconscious fully trusts me. So… I think I should make an “I trust my husband” file. The thought literally just occurred to me, so I don’t have much to add yet.

I know specific discussions on file scripts are restricted to the gold area, so I will post my ideas there in the coming days.

[FaustsBoon]

04/09/2013 at 3:09 pm

Good man… Keep being patient. We’ll just keep reminding each-other, and get beyond our impulse tendencies! :p

Glad all is going well. I admit, i’m jealous regarding your wife’s little winks and nods towards wanting sex/you. Mine is just so reserved in that regard that I never know she wants me, until we’re in the midst of it. :p

Fingers crossed for your time apart. My wife is doing a trip to see her folks around the same time and will be gone five days. I’m using the weeks up to then to reinforce and repeat the files i’ve got going, and was thinking post-trip might be a good time to try new things too.

Here’s to all of our continued good fortune!

[trainer81]

04/09/2013 at 4:45 pm

She just called me again for no reason. Almost unprecedented. Communication from work is almost always via email and if it’s a phone call, it’s adding something to my “honey-do” list.

She was a bit pouty – “am I gonna get snuggles tonight?” Hard to tell what that means for tonight – sometimes her requests for snuggles are really just for snuggles and no more, so we’ll see. But glad to see her demanding physical affection. I will be more attentive tonight. Unless there’s a good game on. (Kidding!)

[FaustsBoon]

04/09/2013 at 8:08 pm

Sound great man. And you know… if you can create further loving connections between her snuggling wants, mutual attentiveness, AND sex… than it just makes it that much more likely that you continue to see outcomes you want, and everyone gets all of their needs met! Win Win!

So… if you had to take a step back… from before DreamGirls Subliminals were part of your lives, and now… How massive/minor would you say the differences are? Enough to feel, unquestionably like it has been everything, or much of what you (pardon the pun), dreamed it would be when you signed up?

[trainer81]

04/10/2013 at 3:57 pm

Fausts – that’s hard to answer at this point because of the long break I had. But I am convinced that the WCS had a pretty strong effect on her. Though it’s funny that you brought this up now…. I had decided yesterday that I would add feminine dress code and remove silent converter. So I adjusted my playlist with the intent of playing it last night. But… when she got home from work and went upstairs to change and then came back down – yowza!

Keep in mind we’ve got two kids, so she couldn’t wear lingerie at that time of the day (5pm). But her little white cotton pajama top left nothing to the imagination and barely covered her ass. So… not sure my wife even needs FDC, lol…

Sadly, last night was one of those days where real life intrudes. Summer arrived overnight, and we discovered our AC wasn’t working, which left the top floor of our house a balmy 88. We got a guy to come out and fix it after dinner. I stayed upstairs while he worked on it and my wife and kids were in the cool basement. We were sending flirty texts back and forth, but then she got mad at me for something I thought was innocuous. Instead of getting defensive, I just told her I had no idea she’d be upset and asked for clarification on why she was upset so I wouldn’t do it again, silently cursing myself for somehow screwing this night up.

Meanwhile, AC man was still upstairs as the kids’ bedtime approached. I put them to bed, while she remained downstairs, pouting. When he finally left, I called down to her and discovered she had fallen asleep. She didn’t show any hint of anger at me, but asked to be put to bed, which I did. I then realized how tired I was, so I snuggled up to her and we fell asleep almost immediately. Normally when she’s angry, she’ll refuse to let me touch her, so I took this as a good sign. Especially since it was still 85 in our bedroom, lol…

This morning, she was refreshed and happy, saying nice things to me, with no hint of anger. She’s working a half day, getting her hair done, which always makes her happy, and then coming home to nap. She called when she got to work and apologized for getting so mad last night and I reiterated that I understood her expectations now and wouldn’t do it again.

So to address Fausts question again – I look at how quickly her anger dissipates now and can’t help but think the subliminals have something to do with that. We have had some pretty serious fights over the years, and it’s amazing to see where she’s at now. We’ve certainly worked on conflict resolution, so there is the possibility that a lot of this is a conscious decision on her part. But then, there does seem to be this part of her that is following the scripts of the files, esp. His Happiness, and she has this need to make things right between us quickly.

Either way, I am seeing progress, and that’s what this is all about, right?

I did end up keeping FDC in the playlist. We’ll see if she chooses something made out of lace tonight…

[FaustsBoon]

04/10/2013 at 4:55 pm

Thanks for sharing man. I’ve got to say, your story reminds me to take a breath, and a step back, to really take a wide view of over-all progress.

I think it is occasionally easy for me to forget that while the sexual side of my own project is coming along slowly, if I take a wider view, the general mood/tone really has improved a bunch and done so consistently. My wife is more relaxed, much less inclined to get crabby or snide with me, etc… and that has never regressed during this process.

[trainer81]

04/16/2013 at 3:18 pm

Nothing major to report. A little disappointed I haven’t been hauled off the closet yet, but still getting frequent sexual satisfaction, so can’t complain too much. Will maintain this list for the next week and then she’s gone for ten days. Thinking about putting together some custom files to start her on in May…

[trainer81]

04/16/2013 at 3:19 pm

Oops, above post was me. didn’t realize I wasn’t logged in…

[FaustsBoon]

04/16/2013 at 4:12 pm

LOL… I didn’t even realize one COULD post as a guest.

Shame about the no-closet adventures, but you sound happy and it does sound like everything is going really well for you. Lets just call that closet incident an outlier as i’m pretty sure ALL of us would love that kind of spontaneous miracle result.

Have you gotten to look at my recent updates? It sounds like once again, we’re on the same page regarding using our wives trips as a pause, and chance to switch to a new phase. What were you thinking of using in your customs, or in general, next?

[trainer81]

04/16/2013 at 8:59 pm

All have to look into that posting as guest issue lol

Good day guys,

Trainer81

[trainer81]

04/30/2013 at 10:58 pm

Not much to report. She’s been away for about a week, gets back this weekend. Working on some custom files to start her on when she gets back.

[limited1]

05/14/2013 at 1:55 pm

What files did you decide to go with when she returned?

[trainer81]

05/21/2013 at 3:50 pm

So my wife has not listened to any files since she got back. I think this turned out to be a good thing as I’ll explain below…

My intention, as previously stated, was to design some custom files to start her on when she got back from her 10 day trip. My impatience and overzealousness led to the creation of too many files and when she returned, I was somewhat at a loss as to where to begin. In hindsight, I think my indecision was a good thing. I decided to “analyze” her to determine what progress she has made and if anything has been made permanent.

At this point, I’m feeling confident that His Happiness has indeed been made a permanent part of her. Over the past three weeks, I have seen her continue to say things like, “I just want you to be happy.” She’ll ask me what she should cook for dinner or what she should wear, etc. I make sure to reinforce whenever she does this by telling her how happy I am or how much she pleases me. Any fights we’ve had generally result in her apologizing and telling me she wants me to be happy and/or she doesn’t want me to be mad or upset. The one exception was last night, which I will get to…

So the question now is – where do I go from here? I actually feel pretty lucky relative to a lot of guys – my wife is very sexual, loves giving BJs, dresses sexy, is comfortable naked, etc. However, she does all of these things in a very “take charge” way. She’s always been type A – at school, at work, with family and friends, so this is just how she is. But there is something very arousing in taking a dominant woman and making her submissive to me behind closed doors, so I greedily push for more.

I’ve gotten better at explaining to her what I want from her – the first step is to allow me to take charge in the bedroom. What this means for me is for her to allow me to touch her, kiss her, go down on her without her stopping me. I’m sure lots of women would love the amount of foreplay that I’d like to give my wife, but my wife can be almost like a guy – skip the foreplay, let’s go straight to sex. lol.

Now, I’m not being totally magnanimous here in wanting so much foreplay. The real motive behind it is to give her so much pleasure that it deepens her submissiveness. See: http://dominantsoul.wordpress.com/ds-sexuality/multiple-orgasms-the-most-powerful-domination-technique/ Further, it seems to be the case that women can enter a trance-like/hypnotic state while pre-orgasmic (or during orgasm itself) that makes them very open to suggestion. For those of you who prefer to watch instead of read, check out these videos: (they are instructional, but pornographic, so watch at your discretion. also, I doubt they’d work on mobile devices.)
http://www.redtube.com/15878
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1798622712

So to get to that point, I need to get her to relax and “surrender” to me. I’ve told her that I would love for her to trust me and be open to the point of allowing me to give her this kind of pleasure. And she has been able to do this a few times over the past couple months (again, telling me she wants me to be happy).

So last night I was giving her a foot massage, and I guess I didn’t realize that for her, a foot massage falls under this umbrella of letting go and surrendering. Without getting into the silly details, I said some thing that she took as insensitive. I think she totally overreacted, but I also could have been more sensitive. This morning, she stayed home much longer than usual and I got a text from her that she did that in case I wanted to talk and try to patch things up. I (reluctantly but sincerely) apologized and thanked her for trying to surrender to me and be the woman I wanted her to be.

At this point, it feels like any attempts by her to submit are actually because of His Happiness. She’s not really submissive, but she’s willing to try to make me happy.

So… time to change that. Starting tonight, I’m going with I am a Submissive (sledge), Obedient Wife, and Smart Shopper. This last one, like WCS, is to monitor very specific changes since the first two are more general behavior modifications. My wife is constantly buying things online and I’d love to see her rein that in a bit.

Anyway, I plan to update more frequently with our progress now that she’s be back on subliminals.

[mastermandprincess]

05/21/2013 at 4:29 pm

Glad to hear of the overall progress, you are seemingly in a much better place then when you started the program. It is quiet a challenge to make a dominant woman submissive, but also very rewarding if pulled off correctly, remember to take it slow and ease her into submission as this is a new part of her.

A couple questions
1)You said that you thanked her for trying to surrender, is she aware of what you want and actively trying to work towards it as a goal? A little confused about where her conscious mind is at.

2) Are you absolutely sure she’s not submissive? The way you’ve described her throughout the journal does make her sound like she’s got a sassy dom feel but you’d be surprised how often women who appear strong to the outside world are suppressing submissive thoughts and desires. princess is like this (when interacting with outside world) and I didn’t know she had always fantasized about being submissive and liked the same things as me (from day one) for years. You’re wife sounds like she might just fit this description and not be aware of it. Surrendering power is something she can’t do in the outside world because of how she’s perceived and this may have caused forbidden desires towards submission that you may be able to take advantage of.

If you get back these answers to me I can give you more specific advice.

I do like the playlist and think you should start looking into scripts that will change her perception of her own taste until she believes herself to be submissive. I think I am submissive is a great choice and I’d include submissive thought wife on the next list.
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Finally, as to multiple orgasims I am well aware of their power. Haha, I’m the opposite of your wife as I’m a guy who loves foreplay. Here’s my advice on that, make a game out of it as well as a chance to display your control. She will want to be fucked straight away, there’s no getting around that, but again this is something you can turn on it’s head (literally ;D ). When she wants to get fucked, deny her, tease her, make her beg if she wants it so badly etc. Make it clear what you are doing and why. Take advantage of the his happiness and let her know during foreplay how happy it makes you to see her squirm and need you inside her, but she’s not going to get it until you decide. I feel a lot of people write off foreplay as submissive and light, but there are ways to make it dominant and forceful. Get her body to it’s snapping point and then fuck her. Make it clear while doing this that you are in control and you will decide when she gets fucked, this is also a good chance to probe for natural submissive impulses as she will be more accepting of this if she has them naturally. Of course in executing a technique like this there is always a chance of backfiring, all I can say is try being firm and don’t back down at all when pulling this off. Don’t let her have her way and just stick it in. If you get a women horny enough and display that you control access to the cock there is nothing they won’t do to be fucked. You could even make it towards the end that you won’t fuck her unless she displays more submissive behavior, this will condition her if done regularly. One of my favorite things to do is to make them bark. That may be a little advanced for your wife, but you see what I’m angling at. Good luck.

[trainer81]

05/21/2013 at 5:16 pm

Thanks for the response. To answer your questions…

1. Yes, she is aware of my desires, that I want her to submit/surrender to me. I don’t think she fully grasped it until a few months ago when I wrote down a fantasy for her to read. It had spanking, tying her up, blindfolds, etc. but I also made sure to include a long foreplay where I tease/deny her, but then eventually have her cum and keep cumming even when she begs to stop. I think she was a little overwhelmed by it, but she told me she wanted to do it. I explained that we would work up to that slowly. One additional problem is that she has trouble letting go when the kids are around, which is almost always. Having sex in our bedroom with them down the hall isn’t a big deal, but totally letting go (and the screaming that goes along with it) is a wall for her. Understandably. I don’t want to scar my children either, lol. That said, we are able to get away for a weekend here or there, and she is usually more able to let go when we’re on our own in a hotel somewhere. We have another getaway coming next month…

Also, she has said that she’s fine with me taking charge sometimes, but that other times she wants us to “make love gently” or something like that. I don’t know if it’s from reading too many BDSM novels, but I want to get her to a point where she understands that the two don’t have to be separate.

2. I do think there is a submissive streak within her somewhere. I agree with you about some women being outwardly alpha, but inwardly submissive. That blog I referred to in my last post has a great post on that: http://dominantsoul.wordpress.com/self-understanding/alpha-submissives/

In the past, I have made the mistake of backing down and I know that’s contributed to her not being where I want her to be. There are times when she has fought (literally) with me and I backed down. Not only did I end up disappointed that night, but I became less confident going forward and less willing to try to get her to submit. I finally got sick of it and went all in by writing her that fantasy I mentioned. Since then, I’ve taken things slowly, looking for incremental progression, rather than trying to go too fast and failing. Last night was the first real hiccup, but I hope to have it fixed by the time our getaway comes around in a few weeks.

[mastermandprincess]

05/21/2013 at 6:05 pm

[ Awesome, thanks for your response. I’ll go through point by point.

Ok, good that she’s aware of your desires and willing to take that on (despite being intimidated by them which is completely natural), the fact that she’s even willing to entertain you on this also is a strong indicator that some submissive part exists in her (as pure doms will not do this. If princess ever became somehow dominant towards me, as much as I love her, I’d lose interest in her as a woman. Acting dom towards others is fine though). You’re job is now to learn as much as you can about it and coax it out to the best of your abilities. There will be stimuli that make her fight back, there will be stimuli that make her surrender. You just need to find out what methods are right for your sub (I advise thinking of her as a sub from here on out, if you think that way she will too. Start looking past the dom front, the woman you are working on is hiding behind that and doesn’t know who she is yet, whatever spark of submission you see in her is what you should be thinking of you’re “real” wife as. Don’t get carried away it’s just, bringing out a sub is a very delicate, but precise process and you need to separate what parts of your wife are core to her, what are a dom front, and what is submissive and how all these sides act and interact with the world and you to find the right methods. As I said before, changing a “dom” woman is very hard.) Keep being observant, if you see something that makes her react positively or negatively make note of it and adapt your tactics (this applies to all areas of life).

Another question, there are 2 ways to my mind that I can see her fighting you, seriously and what I like to call “the dom struggle.” When she litterally fights you and you back down is it violent physically? Emotionally? Or both? If this causes her serious emotional problems (Like princess and body writing) you have a more serious problem on your hands that needs to be addressed carefully. If it’s mostly just roughness, you need to be rough back, think of it as trying to gain leadership of a wolf pack. When you’re having sex with her, in a way it’s a fight for leadership, so long as she’s lost in lust she’ll be acting the same as an alpha male wolf defending it’s spot as leader. She needs a fight and to be pushed back and denied to get in line and also… idk how to describe it, to satisfy the carnal submission inside her she needs to lose that fight. If she is a sub, she does WANT to lose that fight and is waiting to be overpowered but wont give up easy. I hope I’m talking sense.

Yeah, the kids problem. Not my department. I know how dry and boring they can make the environment though. Sometimes princess and I babysit family friends and if I touch her ass when they aren’t looking, or try talking about (while they’re not listening obviously, whispers) she acts very different then when we’re alone and chastises me to which I respond that they’re not paying attention, and they’d pick up more from her over reacting then me being flirtatious. Women just don’t want to be sexual around their kids, and kids certainly don’t want to know anything sexually about their parents (most anyways) I can tell you as someone who knows too much about the sexuality of one of my parents it will definitely scar them. Taking advantage of sending them out for a movie (old enough?), babysitters (young enough?), or going out is a necessity for someone in your scenario so keep em up.

The next one if you can I’d push for bondage. Like frequent orgasms (btw, ever think of trying pavlov training like I did for princess by snapping my fingers?) bondage can be a great tool because it takes away the option to fight back. A lot of women, especially when first surrendering feel obligated to fight back. I think they view it on some level as self respect but trained subs unlearn this. However, when she can’t fight back, can’t move or even talk if she’s gagged she has an excuse to truly give in. She can’t engage in the obligated struggle for power so instead she just enjoys and relishes the sensations and the teasing.

http://www.knottyboys.com/code/index.php This is a great site, but you should know your ties well before attempting as your wife doesn’t seem the type to fumble through the learning process with you. Given her personality when you break out the rope you should already know well how to use it.

(PS. Thanks for recommending the site, I’ll check it out on my downtime)

Edit: Forgot to mention, about the vanilla sex thing. princess used to request this of me too, although now the thought turns her off. This was when she was still strugling with her submissive desires. The way I handled this is I would indulge, but I made it clear that while I enjoyed sex with her, and her body I much prefered BDSM and this slowly went away as she became more comfortable with her submissive desires.]

[Tap]

05/22/2013 at 12:39 am

Quote from acwilson74 on May 21, 2013, 15:50

At this point, it feels like any attempts by her to submit are actually because of His Happiness. She’s not really submissive, but she’s willing to try to make me happy.

So… time to change that. Starting tonight, I’m going with I am a Submissive (sledge), Obedient Wife, and Smart Shopper. This last one, like WCS, is to monitor very specific changes since the first two are more general behavior modifications. My wife is constantly buying things online and I’d love to see her rein that in a bit.

Anyway, I plan to update more frequently with our progress now that she’s be back on subliminals.

One of my favorites was the His happiness sledge, but as you said her making you happy doesn’t really deepen her submissiveness. I think the I’m submissive sledge is effective in basically driving the idea in her head. My wife also displays times when she tries to be dominant or have the power. It’s the main reason why we argue sometimes.

When I started playing the I’m submissive sledge for my wife, I really could tell her dialing down that power grab attitude. If you think about it, if she believes this idea in her head that she’s submissive, doing dominant things won’t seem natural to her so she just will start acting more submissive.

Seeing as how you can make a custom, you could make something that includes submissive statements but also obedience statements and associate these ideas with her enjoying them and her being happy when she’s like that. The key to the his happiness sledge in my opinion, is that she derives pleasure from making you happy. Therefore, she gets something out of it.

Something like, “Being obedient for my husband gives me pleasure” would be good. Also, tying the idea of you being in charge, in control, and dominant over her would be good while emphasizing her submissiveness. Maybe even referring to yourself as master might help. In my custom, I have this phrase that I repeat often, “I am a submissive servant for my husband and master Tap.”

If you think about it, someone that is submissive to another does so because the person is higher, in charge, or has authority and the person respects that. Even in a job, generally you would respect and obey the manager because he or she has that power. You could say the employee is submissive in this respect. In a job as well as in the power dynamics of a relationship, that submissive person would be obedient and not question the higher power. Emphasizing your leadership while lowering her status in your custom might drive that point. If she has these ideas in her head, I think eventually she will just give in to you.

[trainer81]

05/24/2013 at 1:51 pm

So for various reasons, I haven’t been able to play the new playlist for her yet, but still some observations to report.

So after our miscommunication the other night, she has been the one aggressively trying to repair things. I never thought things were that bad to begin with, but she sent me texts and emails telling me how much she hates it when things get like this and she’ll do anything to get us closer. She rarely cooks during the week, but she told me she wanted to cook for me on Wednesday night, so she rushed home from work and made a roast chicken with all the trimmings. I just got another email from her telling me that she’s going to leave work as early as she can, stop at Wegmans and make a surprise dinner for me, something that will make me feel loved.

So all of this seems to confirm for me that His Happiness is a part of her now. I keep positively reinforcing as well – telling her how happy she makes me, how pleased I am, etc.

masterm – we’ve actually done a fair amount of bondage. Not rope bondage – that site looks awesome, btw – but we have tied each other up, blindfolds, etc. I’d say our first attempts at being kinky were more B & D and we would take turns being “in charge.” Obviously I’m more interested in D/s now (with a B&D component) so in some ways it feels like we are back to square one, but we do have experience with some kink, which should help going forward since it won’t be totally new for us. The last time I tied her up was on one of our getaways. It’s hard to get her to relax enough to do it at home.

tap – I think you are on to something there. One concern about the submissive sledge is that it will make submissive overall instead of just with me. She actually needs to be domineering at work to succeed there. So maybe I should hold off on playing the submissive sledge and design my own that is more specific to being submissive to me, as well as tying it to her overall happiness…

[Tap]

05/27/2013 at 12:15 am

Quote from acwilson74 on May 24, 2013, 13:51
tap – I think you are on to something there. One concern about the submissive sledge is that it will make submissive overall instead of just with me. She actually needs to be domineering at work to succeed there. So maybe I should hold off on playing the submissive sledge and design my own that is more specific to being submissive to me, as well as tying it to her overall happiness…

That is true about the submissive sledge. The script is such that it would make her submissive overall. I like it though because she acts more docile after playing it overnight vs. when I take it off. I’d say 2 different times I excluded it from my playlist and my wife started nagging me and challenging me more. Then when I added it back, she became nicer with less nagging. It was too much of a coincidence to overlook.

My custom has references to “I am submissive for my husband” and variations of that. In total, about 6 statements related to being submissive particularly to me. For whatever reason, it didn’t seem like she was taking to that to much. Also, I’ve tried the submissive thoughts wife mp3 often, but she didn’t act more submissive after playing it for awhile.

The only reason why I could think of why the submissive sledge works well is because it’s a sledgehammer with multiple voices. Maybe that social peer pressure component affects my wife more. She does have a lot of friends and likes to socialize. She also cares what her friends think. In addition, I think it’s a simple, straightfoward script for the subconscious to handle easily. As I understand it, the subconscious can’t handle affirmations that are too complicated.

[limited1]

06/17/2013 at 5:15 pm

ACW74- Checking in with you to see how the progress is coming……hope everything is proceeding smoothly.

I had the same concerns about the submissive thoughts file and my wife and work (management has to be in charge and domineering, etc.,) . I chose not to play the stock file for the sames reasons……I finally figured out how to make a custom file ( I think ) that I just started a few days ago. I used phrases like this in the file for submission but only to me. I’m hoping they will work, and not screw her up at work….I hope this helps :

I can picture myself becoming submissive to my husband.
My husband is the only one I can picture being submissive to.

 

I can see myself being submissive to my husband.

I am happy I can see myself being submissive to my husband.

God is happy I can see myself being submissive to my husband.

I will be submissive to my husband.

I will only be submissive to my husband.

  

[Tap]

06/18/2013 at 1:12 am

@limited1 said:

ACW74- Checking in with you to see how the progress is coming……hope everything is proceeding smoothly.

I had the same concerns about the submissive thoughts file and my wife and work (management has to be in charge and domineering, etc.,) . I chose not to play the stock file for the sames reasons……I finally figured out how to make a custom file ( I think ) that I just started a few days ago. I used phrases like this in the file for submission but only to me. I’m hoping they will work, and not screw her up at work….I hope this helps :

I can picture myself becoming submissive to my husband.
My husband is the only one I can picture being submissive to.

 

I can see myself being submissive to my husband.

I am happy I can see myself being submissive to my husband.

God is happy I can see myself being submissive to my husband.

I will be submissive to my husband.

I will only be submissive to my husband.

  

Limited, that’s a decent script. I’ll post part of my submissive script since you asked me before. I recently edited it to include a reference to God after some comments on this forum about it.

I am submissive for my husband.

God asks me to be submissive for my husband Tap.

I like being submissive for my husband.

I am happy being submissive for my husband.

Being submissive for my husband gives me pleasure

[limited1]

07/30/2013 at 3:42 pm

ACW74- How’s it going….are you still seeing HH still in place?

Are your new scripts working….were you able to start your new playlist ?

[trainer81]

11/25/2013 at 4:14 pm

Aaaaaaaaaaaand… I’m back. (Yes, I changed my display name.)

So for the past few months, I’ve been very patient with my approach. (Some might call it “lazy” lol…)

Regardless, progress is being made. For the moment, I’ve put submissiveness on the back burner. Instead, I’ve focused on “perfecting” other areas first with pretty good results. As mentioned months ago, it does seem that HH is a permanent part of her now. I’ve had a couple bad screw-ups over the past few months, and after her initial rage subsides, she’s right back to being loving, affectionate, etc.

For instance – a couple weeks ago I screwed up (no need to get into details… lol), and she was furious. I had a guys trip to New Orleans planned for the following weekend, and she was like, “I don’t even know why you should be allowed to go on this trip.” She never really threatened to cancel it, but the implication was there that she wouldn’t be in favor of future trips. But she definitely mellows out over the next several days and I go to NO and she tells me to have fun. I get back and I tell her, the guys are thinking about a trip to Vegas in the spring and she says, “Oh, you should TOTALLY go!! That will be so much fun!”

In some ways, I think this is analogous to qwerty’s technical malfunction, where his wife actually heard the voices. In both cases, our wives were pretty upset with us, but it seems that the programming has gone deep enough that they forgave us and possibly even forgot the whole episode.

Overall, my wife seems much happier these days. Her sex drive has increased quite a bit. (I did run qwerty’s “arousal” file for a few weeks. Thanks, Q!) If we go a couple of days without sex, she’ll start pressing me. One night last week, I went to the store at 8pm and she was asleep when I got back. She woke me up at 5am, complaining that I took too long at the store and that she really tried to stay awake so that we could have sex.

There have been other gradual changes non-sexually as well. She is extremely busy at work in general, but now she’ll take the time to call or email me to say she was thinking about me, she loves me, she wants me, etc. (It used to be that she would call/email only to give me a honey-do list.)

Right now, I’m basically running just one file called “perfect wife.” I’m working on a few other customs that I plan to introduce soon and will update accordingly. Or maybe I’ll disappear for months. You never can tell with me…

[trainer81]

11/25/2013 at 5:09 pm

Can’t believe I forgot about this…

I’m still amazed with myself for bringing this up with her. So I texted her the following article:

http://shine.yahoo.com/fashion/wearing-corset-every-day-night-changed-womans-life-152900929.html

So, she’s definitely a slender woman, but she’s never been able to lose that last 5-10 lbs. around her waist since pregnancy. I know it frustrates her, but I’ve always been ridiculously careful to never say or do anything that she would interpret as me saying she’s fat. And yet I sent her that article…

I immediately followed the link with another text: “I’ve always thought you looked sexy in corsets.” (We’ve got a few in our lingerie collection.)

She texted back “OK, random…” and it seemed like that was that.

Later that day, I noticed she had been on my computer and I decided to check the browser history. Wouldn’t you know it… a bunch of sites dealing with corset training your waist. I literally popped a boner right there when I realized that she was already investigating this. (sorry, TMI, lol…) I mean, the girl in the article is not hot at all, but holy crap, her figure in the after picture… Wow!

The next day, my wife asked me if I thought she should start wearing a corset. Loaded question! I told her that I sent her the article because she wears Spanx and the article mentions that Spanx is not nearly as effective as a corset. We continued to talk about it and she never once acted like she was upset with me or said that she felt fat or anything. Later on, I said I’d get her a corset as a Christmas present and she seemed genuinely excited. Last night we took her measurements, so now I just have to order the thing.

Thank you, His Happiness.

[MasterSouthernStar]

12/28/2013 at 7:56 pm

adrz74;

               So????  Did you get her the corset?  Is she wearing it??  Does she like it?  Inquiring minds want to know.

MSS

[trainer81]

12/31/2013 at 5:25 pm

My wife doesn’t half-ass anything, so we ordered a custom made corset that takes several weeks to make. But yes, she seems very excited to start wearing it whenever it gets here. Hopefully not too much longer.