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  • June 5, 2013 at 5:51 pm #0
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    06/05/2013 at 5:51 pm

    To All:

    I had posted something similar to this in the Gold Members area. But as this area has more traffic, I think it would be beneficial to redo the post and update it here. This will be a rather lengthy post I hope to be able to be more concise moving forward.

    Background:

    My wife and I have been married for 25+ years and have 3 grown kids and 2 grand kids. We are empty nesters and while 50 are a birthday looming on the horizon for both of use in a few years, we still have some time.

    11 ½ years ago my wife was involved in what appeared to be a minor car accident. However the jarring from the accident caused her to develop back problems. Though she continued to work for the next 5 years, things became difficult to manage her pain and do her job. She had avoided back surgery as it was less than a 50-50 proposition of success, so her pain was “managed” by narcotics. Eventually this took a toll on her long term memory and she was having difficulty at work retrieving information. 6 years ago this month she went on permanent disability. Last year she had a procedure done that vastly improved her quality of life and reduced the amount of pain medications she needed to get through the day. But in the last several months, despite what the doctors have said she has gone back to her prior activity of lying in the bed 24/7.

    She does not drive for the above stated reason with the pain medications and some memory loss. So she is home bound unless I or someone else picks her up.

    Ever since before we got married she wanted to be the stay at home wife, think June Clever. Very much a 1950’s housewife, but she went to work reluctantly so she could have all the bells and whistles that society dictates. Years ago she did not mind cooking, and while I cannot say she enjoyed it but she did clean and do laundry and some light yard work. Today, I can barely get her to step into the kitchen. The vacuum gets run about once a week in the bedroom only. And if it were not for the fact that I installed a washer dryer in the master bath, I would be doing all the laundry!

    Her attitude towards sex is akin to some Puritan value system. She avoids offering oral and it seems more or less to be something forced upon her. She is very reluctant to experiment. While I have tried to expand her horizons introducing some toys into the bedroom, she is not willing to take upon use for herself.

    Deployment:

    I plan on using (am using) my old laptop with the built in speakers. I have password protected the laptop so she cannot access it. The files played are all silent and run all day and night in the bedroom. It is competing for her hearing attention with the TV that is on 24/7. When I tested it out in a silent environment I could barely perceive some noise with the speaker at 100% and volume of the media player at 100%. I can discretely log into the computer from my new laptop and change the files and download new content at will.

    Optimum Results:

    1. As we are closer to retirement that legal drinking age, I would like for her to more open to accept my plans. I am the bread winner and have worked our entire married life, so I feel my desire for retirement or early retirement should be the one adopted. She opposes my plans currently, but I feel she realizes that ultimately my plan will be what is done. I just rather avoid her resistance all together. The less resistance the sooner the plans can be put in motion to accomplish it.

    2. Upkeep of things around the house and a hot meal. I do not believe I am asking for too much. Wash and iron my clothes, yes we do own an iron be nice if it was used. Dust, my gosh when dust bunnies make a nest larger than the beanie babies on the shelf there is a problem. Vacuuming the floor is fine, but we have hard wood and a Swiffer does not give the clean appearance that a good mopping will do. That thing in the downstairs that gets hot is called an oven, a cabinet down is something the stays cold called a refrigerator. In the refrigerator is where your ice cream is stored. Could we try to make a meal every once in a while rather than me picking up our dinner.

    3. Dress like you would like to be treated. Wearing old t-shirts and shorts is fine for house work or yard work. But coming to bed be a little more creative. During the daytime hours and not doing house work, make an effort to look presentable.

    4. Be more open to explore “under the sheets”. Realize there are more activities besides lying there. When you are in that “time” there can be other ways you can please me. There is nothing wrong with some foreplay by you, be willing to initiate.

    5. Learn to be more sociable when out. It is very awkward to go to a dinner, picnic or meeting with a wife in tow that just wants to sit in the corner. Be willing to converse, be sociable and not judgmental, smile and enjoy small talk. There is nothing wrong with enjoying a glass of wine and meeting new people.

    Wow and I could ramble on some more. But I think you get the point.

    Opinion on Files:

    Converters – Is there any difference between the two silent converter files, the Amy and the new one? I have chosen to start with the new one.

    Starter Files – From what I have read in the forums here it seems that the Sledgehammer of Love, Honor & Obey (LHO) and Submissive Thoughts Wife (STW) are the preferred starter files. Also a file to use to measure effectiveness that seems to have success is the Wife – Cock Sucker (CS).

    Progress:

    On 5/30 I started with the new Converter file and it has been running continuously since. On 6/1 I introduced STW file to run in loop with the Converter. Then on 6/3 I introduced the CS file. My plan now is to hold tight with new files or changing the playlist until near the end of the month.

    Now as I said, my wife is not a fan of giving oral, compounding that with that time of the month. Not sure how much tangible progress I will see. Later in the day on 6/3 I suggested something and I got the glare. Last night I mentioned it and I got a smirk. Not sure if it was the timing or location that got me the smirk, only time will tell.

    Over the weekend she seemed to be more emotional but also have more energy. She had a crying fit on the way to church as she was taking over teaching a 2-3 year old Sunday School and was stressed about it. The more energy was helping with some items around the house, clipped some weeds, helped paint some molding and has done some laundry. Time will tell if it is having any impact.

    I just talked to her on my way to the office from lunch and she was resting in bed. So I guess I will see if she will be showing any signs of fatigue from listening tonight.

    If you have stuck with this through the whole list, I would appreciate any advice or insight you can provide going forward.
    I will update if anything unique happens and will be checking messages here if there is advice or any questions.

    Thanks!


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    06/06/2013 at 1:56 am

    I personally prefer the His happiness sledgehammer over the love,honor and obey one. The only reason why I say that is because the LHO is in future tense often, and I’ve read the future tense is not as good in producing changes.

    I’ve had a lot of success using my custom sledghammer to get her to clean and cook more. If you can make your own silent, it’s a possibility to think about.

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    06/06/2013 at 3:43 am

    Tap –
    Thanks for the feedback, I will look into His happiness and compare to LHO. I have already researched the custom sledgehammer and plan on doing that in the near future.

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    06/06/2013 at 8:25 pm

    1 discreetman:

    It’s great to have another person posting their situation, what you are doing, and the varying degrees of success so we can all provide insight and learn from it. Please particpate in the community and provide updates/progress reports. There are good people in here that will share their thoughts/insights and are your cheeerleaders as well.

    Sounds like you had a tough few years years with everything that your wife has gone thru….I hope things start heading in the right direction for you and your wife. With that being said…..From what I have read in the different forums on my short time in being part of this community is the following:

    1.) Don’t use more than two or three files at one time
    2.) You need to run the same files for at least 30 days consectively to have the messaging start to take hold….. YMMV as some have had fast success and others like myself have seen slower progress.
    3.) You have to create a game plan to address what are the most important goals and objectives and use the appropriate files to address. A shotgun effect does not work in my experience. I had to pick the most important goal and focus two or three files that would address my top goal.
    4.) Go slow, be positive, communicate with your spouse subtly and gentlely start to set expectations after a few weeks (the files won’t work on their own), and reinforce good behavior when you start to see it

    With the above in mind, maybe you would want to do the following based on some of the things that you have stated above which for the most part resonantes about the laziness and general poor condition of your home :
    1.) Domestic Wife- covers duties , responsibilities for the condition of the home, caring for husband. Husband is responsible for the both of you financially, you are in charge
    2.) A Homemaker- talks about being an old fashioned gal, a good homemaker, cooking the meals, cleaning the house, etc. Fits your “June Cleaver” comment
    3.) I love cooking and/or I love ironing – these files are self explanatory

    The files I listed go from being somehat general to be more focused. The beuaty of the files I listed, you can actuallly see real, concrete progress as opposed to some of the others when they talk about making husband happy, obeying husband ,etc where the results are more vague and are not as cut and dried.

    After that you can focus on her appeareance with Feminine Dress Code for Husband, Cock sucker for Husband, etc and again see concrete progress that is being made.

    I hope this helps. I’m no expert by any means, just learning from others and my own experiences. Check out my journal that I have…..I have to work on the more emotional side of things at first, and progress is hard to guage and somewhat frustrating.

    Good luck to you!

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    06/06/2013 at 8:38 pm

    Hey man… I just wanted to thank you for posting, and welcome you to our community. We’ve got a small, but good, and supportive one, and while the situation with the forums has hurt some, we’re normally all quick to help out, and provide the extra set of supports which I think we all kind of need during this.

    Limited has been around a good while, and as a veteran, he really has hit the points that we’ve found to be cardinal rules. I’ll re-state, his points are spot on, and MUST be followed. We inevitably get a few new guys around her switching programs every three days, playing ten different tracks during the week, etc…. and then realizing a month+ in, that nothing is happening. Learn from our experiences. :-)

    Also, reinforce constantly. Your attitude is AS central, in my opinion as the files you play. If you don’t carry yourself with true, consistent confidence, and speak with authority, this won’t work.

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    06/06/2013 at 11:16 pm

    Limited & FaustBoon,

    Thanks for your replies!

    I will try to keep an update on the journal. For all who read it, it is so easy to be tempted to tinker and switch programs constantly. Everyday, I am thinking should I. I haven’t and do not plan until beginning of July.

    What is unique, since they have been running, she seems to have more energy. She is wanting to do things, not normally the attitude. Yesterday, she dusted and cleaned part of our bedroom. Today another part was done. Laundry is almost caught up, it is a never ending job. She asked me to pick up some items so she could do some baking.

    I’m scratching my head because I really haven’t focused on any of this. But at the same time I am thanking her and congratulating for the work done.

    She is starting to complain about a headache, now this could be because the weather has been swinging back and forth, that time for her or something to do with her meds. But she is still functional and a higher level of activity than in the past.

    Interesting times are upon us.

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    06/07/2013 at 1:47 am

    As the others said, welcome to the “Stepford Men’s Association”! :)

    I have to agree with most of what was said above. Consistency and reinforcement are key.

    As for the playlist versus the observed behavior, STW (my personal favorite) and CS both have general affirmations that lead toward making you happy. If she knows from past conversation and experience that you like the June Cleaver type, that may be what her subconscious is bringing to the foreground.

    I look forward to hearing more reports!

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    06/07/2013 at 5:38 pm

    I can respond to some of your seemingly weird findings, by suggesting I saw the same…

    In the very beginning…

    – My wife had headaches for a day or two as well, and many others have reported the same. It seems very common, and likewise it seems typical for it to go away within a couple days, MAYBE only returning if you switch programs.

    – My wife also had a weird burst of energy/home-maker-ness?, when we first began. It was again something not linked to any of our files, overtly, but was among things she knew I would like. I will say, as I didn’t particularly reinforce those specific outcomes, they did seem to fade with time. IF you like those results, do praise them, or they will go away, as will any behavior this program seems to tease out.

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    06/09/2013 at 1:36 am

    Well a little update, no headaches to report in last 36 hours. Could have been just change in weather or something else.

    It was my wife that voiced about wanting to live like we were back in the 1950’s, the perfect June Clever household. I would have no problem with it.

    Today a good friend of mine had his wedding, was a busy day for me dog to vet, mow the lawn, shower again, wash her hair and pick up a wedding present all before 3. When I came back in from mowing the lawn, all of the sudden she had these sudden in her side. I have seen this trick before. Today, I firmly told her that I still needed for her to get ready, if she was still bothered by this following the wedding we could skip the reception. But we were going to the wedding! I could tell she was not happy, but by the end of the night, including reception, all was fine and pains were gone. She actually was communicative and seemed to have enjoyed being out.

    There is hope.

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    06/09/2013 at 4:42 am

    Nice glad you guys had a nice time….

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    06/13/2013 at 2:29 am

    ThoughtI’d chime in as well.

    Welcome, I’m fairly new and started out skeptical. But I have seen concrete changes and so really think there is something to this.

    Others have read some of the profound changes that have been made since my wife has been listening to the silents and my custom script. This was related on the old forum. Those who have might be interested in hearing this. I used to be in the military and like items folder, not stuffed, into the drawers. This include underwear & t-shirts – haha. For years I have been trying to get her to fold them so the drawer is not a heap of white cloth. A couple of weeks, I was in a hurry to meet a client and opened the underwear drawer and she had just finished the laundry (whites) and the underwear and t-shirts were all just stuffed and I had to dig & sort them to get what I wanted. She was within earshot when I grumbled that this was rediculous and lazy. I went to meet my client, and when I got home the underwear drawer was sorted and folded in the nice 6″ squares I like. I thanked her for it, and have made sure to complement her on continuing for the last two weeks.

    Now, I relate this story because, as the other have read, my wife has always been DECIDEDLY no-domestic, in practice, although she contends she wants to be. If you wife was like that or wanted to be I’m sure she can be again.

    I have a sugegstion since you mentioned “church.” One thing I agonized about, being an active believer in my church, was including affirmations that “God” would be pleased in these changes in her. I was unsure about the ethics of it until I realized, upon studying scripture, that these are changes God has already asked her to make in scripture and he has stated he will be pleased. I must also note that as the husband you also need to step up and fill that biblical role that scripture describes if you want her to play her part. But, the bottom line is that I think my wife responded as much to the suggestion that God wanted her to do this, and it would please him if she did, as she responded to the suggestion it would please her, maybe even more.

    But any way, good to hear she seems to respond. I honestly thinnk this sort of thing can be used to help out many marriages.


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    06/13/2013 at 4:47 am

    @J66R said:
    I have a sugegstion since you mentioned “church.” One thing I agonized about, being an active believer in my church, was including affirmations that “God” would be pleased in these changes in her. I was unsure about the ethics of it until I realized, upon studying scripture, that these are changes God has already asked her to make in scripture and he has stated he will be pleased. I must also note that as the husband you also need to step up and fill that biblical role that scripture describes if you want her to play her part. But, the bottom line is that I think my wife responded as much to the suggestion that God wanted her to do this, and it would please him if she did, as she responded to the suggestion it would please her, maybe even more.

    But any way, good to hear she seems to respond. I honestly thinnk this sort of thing can be used to help out many marriages.

    Interesting point. I do think if a person’s wife is religious or really does try to follow God’s teachings, this would work. I myself am religious and am familiar with what the Bible says. I know for strict fundamentalist Christians that follow the literal translation of the Bible, many verses in the New Testament talk about how the wife should be submissive to the husband and follow what the husband says. In turn, the husband must love his wife. I found about 5 verses like this and a month ago, I read them to my wife and told her it’s what God wants. She just said ok, but didn’t really seem that into it. She’s not as religious as me, but does believe in God. However, maybe it has affected her in deciding to be more submissive to me.

    It is something to think about. If my wife was more religious, I probably would insert such statements into my script. Ethically and morally, I know the use of these subliminals could be thought of as wrong so I’m not sure I want to mix God with it. I just tell myself it’s bettering my marriage which it has, and I won’t abuse the power. It’s the only way I see how it could be morally ok to me.

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    06/13/2013 at 6:18 am

    You have to set your own standards of what you will and won’t use it for, it all depends on what you think is right and wrong.  I believe girls were born submissive but her upbringing will define who she is from those teachings as a child from being dom or submissive…

    When I have to think about it, I myself approve of consensual servitude.

    Go slow my friend and see how things work out for yeah Cool

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    06/13/2013 at 7:24 pm

    All good things to think about and I had the same qualms for years considering using NLP, covert hypnosis or other methods and mixing the idea that God wanted her to do this and be this way. But I never did.

    It was a sense of continuous martyrdom and I was literally “proud” that I had endured. Though it only made her attitude worse, I was jubillant when she finally  admitted that for most of our marriage she had been deliberately mistreating me in the hopes that I would just give up and divorce her. But even though she constantly said she believed me on an intellectual level, and that she wanted that better relationship, there was always something inside her that wouldn’t let her commit fully to the idea of “us”. I felt like the only thing that would make her mine was if I persevered long enough that whatever doubts she had would finally be proven wrong and she would somehow magically relinquish that love and respect I so desperately needed from her and was starving for.

    I had spent well over two decades playing the game “fairly” with being sweet and kind and understanding, trying to appeal to emotions, logic, philosophy, trying marriage couselling, religious couselling. All the while she was chipper and outgoing to everyone around but at home she abused me and the children mentally and emotionally. But she could at times be very caring and loving to the children and even somewhat compassionate to me, when she wanted something. Numerous talks with her about this would start with denials and sometimes end in admission but the all too familiar refrain of “I don’t know why I do that.”

    Last summer I had a life threatening incident in which I could have actually been clinically dead for a few minutes. From that point on I have begun to shake the old timidity that paralyzed me, her threats ring hollow now because I now see how little I have had all these years and how easily it can go away but by the same token how much I can have if I just reach for it. I came to the conclusion that all my efforts to be loving, supportive, kind and undestanding were not that different than using the subliminals. I was more compliant and submissive to her in order to curry enough favor that she would not do some of the things she did. I would misdirect her to be angry at me to take her sights off the children.

    I realized that everything I did and said at it’s most elemental was a tactic to survive and make her think something that wasn’t truth, i.e. that her bad behavior was acceptable.  To read a scripture to her about the roles of men and women but to then accept the role of a mistreated servant was inconsitent on my part. To read her articles about seritonin and oxtyocin, arousal and memory engrams, and their result or relevance to marriage relationships and to then accept weeks and months of no intimate contact out of fear “I won’t even get any” sent mixed signals. I was being too “fair” when I would complain about how her actions and lack of affection makes me feel and then give the same legitimacy to her saying “all you do is ask ME to do for you, but you don’t give me what I want and need. Maybe if you made more money, enough to take care of your family, and to have some nice things, just maybe I’d be more afectionate.” To scrimp and save only to allow her access to the bank account and let her blow the savings on a new set of bed covers and curtains she’ll think are ugly next year was unwise.

    In a very real sense I was already subliminally programming her to be the abuser and immature, thoughtless person she was being.

    This is no different. And after the medical incident last year, I decided all bets are off. I now push her to fill certain roles and I have assumed a certain role. I have children from 21 to 3. I need her to be around and frankly, I need to be around for the 3 yr old for a long time to come.

    I find no more ethical dillemma. Churches use prayers, music, songs, traditions, private terminaologies, devotionals, testimony giving, donations, vague accusations, imlpications of associations, peer pressure, outright snooping and any number of tactics to change or maintain the behvior of their memberships.

    I can make the case that society is, on par, the better for it, even though I can think of no religious body that actually comes out and says to a prospective memebr that upon investigation or induction of the religion that they will begin to exercise what amounts to classic brain washing techniques in order to bring the person into conformity with the main body of the congregation and to further reinforce the continued adherence to the congregational norm they will be subjected to continued and occasionally intesified methods to produce certain stresses, suggest certain methods of coping and evaluating the resulting actions or attitudes. But, bar none, all religions do it. Some are or have been obviously done for less than honorable reasons. But it was the use of the tool and not the tool that was immoral.

    I think I can also make the case for the same here.

    Sorry to ramble, but I was really conflicted and after seeing the limited, but for us, dramatic shift in behavior in such a relatively short amount of time, I can honestly say I have no plans to abuse this tool and so feel no more ethical qualms about injecting the thought of God into what God has already injected himself via scripture into.


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    06/14/2013 at 12:11 am

    Wow your convincing argument was very well said. That’s true that any organization engages in forms of brainwashing to keep their members. They just don’t call it brainwashing because it’s not politically correct.

    If you have a time, maybe you can start your own journal topic. I know you’ve touched on what you’ve done that has helped your marriage. I’d be interested to see and get ideas from what subliminals you’ve played or customs you’ve made that have given you such success. I’m sure your contribution would help all of us.

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    06/14/2013 at 1:32 am

    @j66r,

    Wow! Nice post. I have to agree with Tap, though, that you really need to start your own journal on this.

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    06/15/2013 at 4:47 am

    I’m with you guys as far as being conflicted due to religious beliefs in the beginning. started out thinking just to improve our sex life, but found her general submissive attitude to be much more satisfying and more in line with my moral beliefs.Currently the only file I’m using is  I am a Submissive wife and,In charge.I find as she falls more in line with what we both believe is God’s will, the sex stuff just seems to take care of itself.Also I’ve gotten her to agree to listen to files I think would help her in the areas she agrees she needs to work on.This helps as it things are more out in the open, even though she doesn’t know what files I’m playing,or where I’m getting them.My main reasoning in using the files, is that I’m supposed to be her authority on earth, so whatever means it takes to get her to listen is OK.I do remind myself that I’ll have to answer to God for how I treat her, which for me helps keep me from abusing my authority.


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    06/15/2013 at 2:52 pm

    @tonguester4_69 said:

    I’m with you guys as far as being conflicted due to religious beliefs in the beginning. started out thinking just to improve our sex life, but found her general submissive attitude to be much more satisfying and more in line with my moral beliefs.Currently the only file I’m using is  I am a Submissive wife and,In charge.I find as she falls more in line with what we both believe is God’s will, the sex stuff just seems to take care of itself.Also I’ve gotten her to agree to listen to files I think would help her in the areas she agrees she needs to work on.This helps as it things are more out in the open, even though she doesn’t know what files I’m playing,or where I’m getting them.My main reasoning in using the files, is that I’m supposed to be her authority on earth, so whatever means it takes to get her to listen is OK.I do remind myself that I’ll have to answer to God for how I treat her, which for me helps keep me from abusing my authority.

    That pretty much sums it up. It’s good how your wife openly agrees to it. I know my wife would not if I brought up all these ideas about playing these subliminals to her.

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    06/15/2013 at 7:37 pm

    For you guys who have this ethical concern, I remind you that success will result in a happier wife.  I don’t imagine that the subject (female – wife , girlfriend, whatever) in these relationships are happy with them as they exist at the beginning of this process.  I think one result that doesn’t get mentioned enough around here is how much at ease, relaxed and yes even happy – the subject is once there starts to be positive result.  No one likes to be in a tense relationship.  When the relationship starts to lose that tension and see some lightness that success brings, everyone concerned with the relationship gets happier.  My personal view point is that females are naturally born for the submissive role and no female can be happy with herself until she fully embraces that concept.  Our society and it’s Brainwashing reinforces role models and behaviors that are contrary to that and consequently have led to the increase of stress related diseases in women over the past few decades.  If you’re helping your woman attain her true self, there is no more noble cause.  Even if you don’t agree with my premise, if you’re helping her be happier with her life, you’re a great guy!  And that can’t be a bad thing.

    I’m lucky.  My girl agrees with my outlook on life and wants more than anything to be as submissive as humanly possible to me.  She wants any help I can get her towards that goal and so these subliminals have been a great thing.  She continues to be happier with herself and her behavior.  There is definitely no ethical concern here.  I can certainly understand how there might be in some of the other circumstances I’ve read about here on the forum.  But I say intent triumphs over all.  If you have good intent and do all you can towards that end, no one can fault you.

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    06/17/2013 at 5:02 pm

    Well, I disappear for a few days.  Interesting discussions.

    To bring everyone up to date.  Still have been running the same scripts for 24/7.  Can I say I see any changes, yes most definitely. 

    But let me start with a script, that so far has not yielded any positive results, the Wife CS.  No change on that front and still a no go.  But it has been a couple weeks, will continue until end of the month and see if there is any changes.

    Submissive Thoughts Wife along with the Converter, how to measure an improvement?  Observed changes and I believe it was mentioned before.  More energy, unlike before this experiment was started, she seeks some things out to do.  She has pulled weeds on a couple occasions, done the dishes for the first time in over a year, made a dinner (albeit hot dogs and pierogies), done laundry and even cleaned rooms without being told too! She did bake last Monday when grandkids were there, I guess I will see if we have anything new tonight.

    She made the comment the other day about a pair of panties she had bought and really liked.  So Sunday found us in Victoria’s Secret, she found several pairs!  I told her to look around and I would wait outside, she then grabbed a couple new bras, to my surprise and said they feel so good.  I had suggested an upgrade to her PJ’s, she agrees hers are starting to look a little ratty.  But could get something she was comfortable with yet.

    Sex seemed better this week and she was able to climax easier.  Normally a great deal of work is involved.  I plan on pushing the envelope more this week on sex and see if I get any push back.

    Had some talks about future plans and she seems to be getting more agreeable.

    That said, I am not to the June Clever mode yet, but we are moving in that direction.  She seems not to be resisting any of the scripts, just choosing to hear what she wants with regards to the Wife CS.  Time will tell.

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    06/18/2013 at 12:36 pm

    Yeah, I really haven’t had too much success with the WCS file, or at least not as much as I’d like. She is more agreeable to it now, but not really into it, and doesn’t even try to swallow, even though she does allow me to cum in her mouth. So halfway there I guess on that front.I think she just has a thing about it, maybe the same with your wife.

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    06/18/2013 at 6:27 pm

    Most definitely with my wife.  I was toying with her last night and made the suggestion, her response was why.  I said we had an anniversary coming up next month and maybe she would want to get in practice. She smiled but nothing beyond that.

    I will say that lead to more fun, with her more easily aroused.  So I am sure it will take some time, just need patience.  She actually asked for her toy that I bought for her.  This is a first, in that she moved it around slight and did touch some of the settings.  Ultimately she asked me to take over, but again some progress.


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    06/20/2013 at 9:09 pm

    discreetman,

    I read your custom in the gold forum, but am responding here because this ID doesn’t have access there. I have some suggestions that might help. As fizbin said, that’s a long file, but my custom is pretty long and if that’s the only file you’re playing, it might be ok. I’ve had decent results with my custom and that one has 115 affirmations.

    I do agree though you should have a progression from your obedient and submissive themes to your cleaning themes. I would not separate each statement with a 5 second interval. That will make your file extremely long. I myself just separated each statement with 1000 ms or 1 second just so each statement is clearly separated from the next. I think 5 seconds would be good for sledgehammer between some of the statements, but I think you should just make a straight up single voice file with that custom.

    Also, from what I researched, some experts have said to stay away from the future tense like “I will clean the house.” Now who knows if these experts are correct, but it’s just something to think about. The thinking is, if you say “I clean the house everyday.” to the subconscious, that’s saying it’s something you already do and it’s a statement of fact. Therefore your conscious will follow. To say you will clean is telling the subconscious you don’t clean right now, but sometime in the future you will. It’s not as effective to get the conscious mind to change.

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    07/09/2013 at 5:41 pm

    Been too busy to provide an update.  Good news is sex is on the uptick.  She seems more willing and more into it.  Still standoffish on the CS script.  I will say her opinions on things have become more muted.  Almost to the point I must guide and direct.

    I just made a silent sledgehammer factoring in the input that other gave.  Not sure if it was created right or not.  If I place the speakers at 100% and hold my ear down to them I can just here a little scratching noise.  Be nice if there was an easy way to test this, any advice. 

    Once I am confident the file is good I will upload to her device.

    Thanks for the feedback!

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    07/11/2013 at 4:18 pm

    Well the other night, some of the best sex in a while.  With last night being rewarded by going out for to a casual restaurant, non chain for some simple Italian food.  The meal ended with her getting a cannoli desert.  Of course some innuendo during our dinner conversation.  But the evil look in her eyes eating the cannoli, licking the chocolate sauce off of it, using her tongue to extract the cream, wrapping her whole mouth around the shell.  This is a little forward for her to do.

    Think I am going to need to pick up some cannoli’s for this weekend and try to tie the ideas together.

    I still haven’t changed my playlist.  I had hoped to beginning of month but just ran out of time.  Have some self custom work that I am putting together, will update when done and in place.

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