What do the results of “obey” subliminals look like?

[FaustsBoon]

04/03/2013 at 3:12 pm

I have been giving it some thought… and perhaps emboldened by what I perceive as possible early results. If i’m feeling optimistic and planning the much later, future stages of training, I am left with a question which I find myself asking often…

What does “obey” look like, versus submission?

Many of the subliminals here, including the ones I am using, key into the theme of submission. From my, admittedly early results, submission is beginning to look like a general softening of firm attitude, resistance, push-back, aggressiveness, etc…

Has anyone, however, used “Obey” based subliminals and noted any effect? The ones in question are things like, “My husband is my master”, “I will obey”, “Obediant wife”, etc….

I would really appreciate any impressions. In your cases, did a transition from submissiveness to obediance look any different? New behaviors? Is “obey” more inclined to simply encourage the individual to flat out do what they are told?

[tonguester4_69]

04/05/2013 at 6:55 am

An interesting question. In my mind, at least,”obey” is a step towards true submission.The true submissive asks for guidance, instead of simply doing what they’re told.My wife has always been the type to “obey” if I really insisted.My goal has been to convert her “obey” with a bad attitude, to one of seeking out what I want from her and doing it willingly.The “In Charge” file as well as “My Decision Maker” have worked well with my wife.I’ve also used “My Husband is my Master” with some success.Honestly, in that respect I’m close to achieving the level of results I was looking for in that area.I guess what I’m saying is obedience is easier to achieve than true submission, as it only requires a required task where submission requires that her heart be in it as well.I’m not sure if I answered any of your questions ,or just rambled on. but I hope I helped a little anyway.

[FaustsBoon]

04/05/2013 at 1:36 pm

That was actually really interesting to read. What you suggest is definitely a personal fantasy of mine, and something I hope to accomplish with my wife. I am just going to go about it very, VERY, slowly, so as to be respectful of her, and her own comfort.

Can I ask what sorts of reactions you got from “My Husband is My Master”? I feel like it might be an absolutely key file in helping my wife eventually associate husband/master for the sake of letting later files work, and am curious.

[tonguester4_69]

04/06/2013 at 5:28 am

I remember after a while, she wouldn’t argue with me as much when we disagreed from a playlist including that file.In the interests of full disclosure, I was also talking to her about making our marriage conform to a more biblical view of marriage, which she strongly believes in.I do however think that the IN Charge file had the most impact, as it helped her be open to letting me make all her decisions for her.However I don’t know if she would have accepted it w/o first instilling in her the concept of regarding me as her master.I would say try them both, as her belief structure may be far different from my wife.And going slow is always the best policy. It IS very tempting to hop around from file to file, but a methodical,measured plan is best I think.

[tonguester4_69]

04/06/2013 at 5:35 am

I do understand about letting her become comfortable with the changes. I was a little too aggressive a few times and had to back off and it actually hindered her progress.

[FaustsBoon]

04/06/2013 at 3:54 pm

So, once all was said and done… did you ultimately win at getting greater sexual submission as well? You mention she is less resistant, and is more inclined to do her wifely duty, but do you feel she engages with the act better? Does she care more, or was that never something you actively pursued in programming?

[tonguester4_69]

04/06/2013 at 11:10 pm

She definitely cares about pleasing me more,and the last time we were together she was definitely more into it.

[MasterSouthernStar]

04/21/2013 at 7:00 pm

I think Tonguester hit on a big thing – compliance is all well and good – but if it’s done begrudgingly it’s not satisfying. I’m with you, T! Quite often my girl will comply well – but I’m looking to get her to where she always complies – and wants to. Wish me luck.

Keep up the good work T!

[trainer81]

04/23/2013 at 7:49 pm

With a file like Obey, go slow and make she learns to trust you! When you train a girl to be submissive there’s a lot more to it then just ordering someone around. It’s about giving up a type of control having her learn to trust you on some level.

She trusts you right from when you met her, but dose she trust you enough to obey you?

Just my 2 cents,

Trainer81

[Tap]

04/24/2013 at 1:10 am

Quote from trainer81 on April 23, 2013, 19:49
With a file like Obey, go slow and make she learns to trust you! When you train a girl to be submissive there’s a lot more to it then just ordering someone around. It’s about giving up a type of control having her learn to trust you on some level.

She trusts you right from when you met her, but dose she trust you enough to obey you?

Just my 2 cents,

Trainer81

That’s good advice. I’m knew to this, and at the beginning I tried just giving her orders and still met some resistance. I noticed if I asked her nicely to do things, she was more willing to go along with it.

I’d like my wife to be truly submissive, so how could I get her to trust me so she will obey? Do I ask her to do things and when she does, give her some positive reinforcement like saying “good job”? I get the idea about positive reinforcement, but I don’t know how else to do it besides giving her some kind of compliment.

[trainer81]

04/24/2013 at 3:53 am

It sounds like, She want’s to trust you so slow and do what works for you Write what you want and set goals.

Trainer81

[FaustsBoon]

04/26/2013 at 10:47 pm

I agree that some more insights into “Obey” would be helpful, from anyone who is further into this process.

I have a deep trust with my wife, and it persists throughout most aspects of our life/relationship, BUT, she has, for example, openly said that her difficulty in a submissive position, is feeling like if she gives up 100% control, she is afraid she wouldn’t be able to protect herself. I know she trusts me, but that sort of statement does allow for a sense of… not quite mistrust in me, but a barrier to FULLY trusting that I will take care of her.