Voices for Recordings

[MasterSouthernStar]

08/30/2014 at 7:34 pm

Fellow Trainers;

When I first created my own subliminals using Trainer’s methods, I was very disappointed with the electronically generated voices. As I’ve gotten more experienced, I had hoped to get more comfortable with the idea but honestly I only get less comfortable with those voices every time I hear them. I can’t believe that these recordings wouldn’t be much more effective if we could use a real actual voice (female of course) for the recording. That idea’s been stewing in my brain for a while and I am just the kind of guy who wants to know whether real versus electronically generated has any effect.

So…..

I am fortunate in that my girl is aware that she’s being trained – although she is not aware of the content. Since she knows about the recordings I discussed it with her. I did not play the electronic voices for her, but she agrees with me that electronic just doesn’t seem as though it would be nearly as effective as real voice. For her it’s even more of a consideration because of her hearing loss. So I suggested to her that I could record her on Audacity for some of you – and we could get feedback to see if the “live” recordings actually work better than the others. She is on board with the idea – if for not other reason that intellectual curiosity.

So if any of you would like to have an audacity recording done by a real live girl please let me know. Let’s see what we can figure out. I just want to see if there’s a difference in effect and can’t really test it on her on a subconscious level if she does the recording. How ’bout it? Anybody else out there curious?

MSS

[Tap]

08/30/2014 at 7:39 pm

That would be a good idea for her in that hearing her own voice will really make it hit the subconscious better. I’m fine with the electronic voices on my end. Sometimes, you have to spell the words differently or put commas where they shouldn’t be so that she pronounces the whole sentence well. You can also change the speed and pitch so she doesn’t talk too fast or slow.

[MasterSouthernStar]

08/30/2014 at 8:00 pm

Tap;

My idea was that due to trying to bypass the conscious, having her record her own training would compromise any judgement of effect of the voice. Further that changes two variables from the original, making it impossible to know which one is responsible for any perceived change. Experimentally it would taint the result. Her knowing the content of the recording would also make judging it’s efficacy as a subliminal impossible – because it is no longer subliminal.

Unfortunately that’s why I felt it necessary to offer to have her record for others. The subject receiving the training will have no awareness of any difference and so can only react to what they hear – not what they know about the recording.

I do agree that hearing her own voice would be likely be the most effective scenario. I just can’t figure how to get her to record it without her knowing about it!

MSS

[trainer81]

08/30/2014 at 10:56 pm

Yes I have to say the text-to-speech voices work well enough but I’m not just saying that MasterSouthernStar, that’s good you wish to experiment with your girl’s natural voice. If her subconscious mind hears her own voice you should get faster results and better training time.

Keep in mind something that might work for you, might not work for someone else. When your girl speaks for the recording use a low tone voice so Audacity won’t have any trouble encoding it.

When I first started Dream Girls back in 2007 I beta tested all past subliminal programs showing proven results for most clients.

All the best,

Trainer81

[MasterSouthernStar]

08/31/2014 at 7:32 pm

Trainer;

Thank you for your reply , but I wonder if I’ve not clearly communicated my intent. I will say again that I have no intent of having my girl record her own training as I believe it would compromise the evaluation of its effectiveness. This string was started to offer her voice to others who might have the same question. I would love to have one recorded for her in a real voice, but I don’t want to have her be any more aware of the content than she is now. That would make two variables changed at once, which would render valid evaluation impossible. If the result WAS better there would be no way to know whether it was because she knew the content or the voice was more effective. If the result wasn’t better it would be impossible to tell if the two variables cancelled each other out or both of them didn’t work. Consequently at this point I can only offer to have her do recordings for others to experiment with.

And please don’t think that I was questioning the efficacy of the system as it stands. Quite clearly, what you’ve created here works. I just saw what I consider to be the weak point and naturally wondered whether it could be improved. I meant no offense and certainly I did not mean to impugn the validity of your program. Please accept my apology if that’s how this came across. That was not my intent. Obviously I believe in your program; I paid money to be here. I appreciate what is happening here and thank you for creating this and carrying it through.

MSS

[tonguester4_69]

09/01/2014 at 3:29 am

This is something I wonder as well. In my case, I’m not sure what direction I’d like to go right now. I’d like to go with an erotic hypnosis script, but my wife is currently adamantly opposed to even the thought of it. Maybe when Trainer gets the subliminal upload page up and running, you could post a few using your girl’s voice.Or alternatively, I know someone posted a hypnosis script maybe you could record that one, and offer to share it, as I know some have expressed interest in the subject.

[Fizbin]

09/01/2014 at 6:18 am

I might be a little concerned that she would pick up on some of the general affirmations that might be shared with your files, and possibly still become subject to the limiting effects previously described.

[Tap]

09/01/2014 at 4:04 pm

I’m of the opinion that just because she might know the script, doesn’t mean it will be less effective. Most reputable subliminal self-help websites post their scripts, so the consumer knows what they’re getting. Some theories are that if the subject is motivated to change, this will cause the changes to be quicker, regardless if the subject knows what’s in the script.

Subliminals on myself were great. In fact, I wouldn’t use a subliminal in which I didn’t know what the script was.

[hotaceazn]

09/01/2014 at 11:20 pm

One of the things I started off doing originally, was using my voice, then using the audacity settings to make it into one of several female voices. I didn’t really notice a lot then so I stopped that, acquired some TTV voices and have been using those instead. However, I may be ready to retry the current script with the voices I create. I will let you know how it works out.

[trainer81]

09/03/2014 at 4:00 pm

@MasterSouthernStar said:

Trainer;

Thank you for your reply , but I wonder if I’ve not clearly communicated my intent. I will say again that I have no intent of having my girl record her own training as I believe it would compromise the evaluation of its effectiveness. This string was started to offer her voice to others who might have the same question. I would love to have one recorded for her in a real voice, but I don’t want to have her be any more aware of the content than she is now. That would make two variables changed at once, which would render valid evaluation impossible. If the result WAS better there would be no way to know whether it was because she knew the content or the voice was more effective. If the result wasn’t better it would be impossible to tell if the two variables cancelled each other out or both of them didn’t work. Consequently at this point I can only offer to have her do recordings for others to experiment with.

And please don’t think that I was questioning the efficacy of the system as it stands. Quite clearly, what you’ve created here works. I just saw what I consider to be the weak point and naturally wondered whether it could be improved. I meant no offense and certainly I did not mean to impugn the validity of your program. Please accept my apology if that’s how this came across. That was not my intent. Obviously I believe in your program; I paid money to be here. I appreciate what is happening here and thank you for creating this and carrying it through.

MSS

No problem, I’m glad to see your coming up with new ideas for subliminal messaging I to thought about using real female voices when I first started Dream Girls I had a girl named Amy, to work with but at the time she was still in training and I kept her in the dark about the subliminal training I used on her.

Anyways I’m thinking if your girl’s subconscious mind hears her own words spoken it be stronger. Maybe something short she can hear herself say like, “I am submissive”

Oh guys, far as subliminal uploads goes it’s going to take awhile because I have a few bugs to workout. It’s going to happen I just don’t want to leave the server open to hackers

Peace,

Trainer81

[MasterSouthernStar]

09/07/2014 at 6:44 pm

hotaceazn;

Thank you for thinking of letting me know how your experiment goes. I’m interested to see how it works – or doesn’t. I love using experimentation as an education process. I’ll post any results I have here – and I look forward to hearing of others’ results.

MSS