Training Journal

[MasterSouthernStar]

11/26/2012 at 12:36 am

This is to be the Training Journal of my slave. It is my intent to update it weekly – but we’ll see if it turns out to be “weakly” instead!

As it stands she’s been listening for about a week and a half to a silent Playlist I set up for her. The list is the Silent converter followed by I Am A Slave, A Happy Slave Girl and finally I Will Obey.

She has taken to it quite well. She has been told that it is subliminal training and that it has a stress reduction factor as well as pure attitudinal training. She listens pretty much every moment she is on the computer or working around the house. She plays them on Windows Media player on her laptop and leaves them running all day long.

Interestingly she forgot yesterday morning and reported feeling itchy, jumpy and ill at ease. This led to some poor behavior – but I managed to steer her back to more appropriate behavior and saved our day yesterday. This morning first thing she made sure she had them running and has been exemplary. She reports being more calm and more able to address her day to day tasks. She also has some serious disability issues that are considerably aggravated by stress and muscular tension. In the past week she has been able to return to a level of activity she had not enjoyed in quite a while.

I’ve perceived her as being more motivated to please and less resistant to commands. She’s not perfect yet, by a long shot, but she has made progress in function as well as outward behavior. I am cautiously optimistic for this process.

Please feel free to ask questions. I’m not a specialist by any means, but I will do my best to answer anything you ask. Barring that, wish me well. I’ve been around forever and my slave is even older than I, so there’s only so much we can hope for. But I’m hoping for every bit of it.

[Fizbin]

03/28/2013 at 10:20 am

Hi, MSS!

Just a quick follow up. Looks like you ended up in “weakly” rather than “weekly” update mode, but inquiring minds would like to know how things are going!

[MasterSouthernStar]

04/21/2013 at 7:43 pm

Fizbin;

Yep – I have to cop to it. I’ve not been as diligent as I should have. Sorry.

The good news is we’re doing fairly decently. There have been a great many interruptions – deaths in the family, medical issues, business travel – things like that. But overall it’s not bad. I can tell when I don’t make a point of ensuring that she listens. She begins to backslide pretty easily. But we’re slogging along.

The latest playlist includes the silent converter, Respectful Compliance, Feminine Dress Code and His Happiness Sledge. To be honest this has not been working as well, but I believe it’s because she hasn’t been listening as much as she should. I had her listening all day everyday as a background to everything and that was doing well. when all her medical issues hit we had to back off a little because I was just worried about getting her healthy again. Now she’s back I need to push again – it’s all my fault of course.

Sorry for not having posted much. For a long while everytime I checked in there was nothing new. It sorta felt like there was nobody out there. Then here lately it’s picked up. I need to keep up with this no matter though – so …. I’ll try to do better.

[trainer81]

04/21/2013 at 8:30 pm

Yeah, I’m going to try to keep a detailed log. Being a Master isn’t easy and we could use everyone’s support and advice to make sure we don’t screw the pooch. I’m sorry your slave was unwell, and for all the hardships you faced. I am glad she is better and wish you best of luck.

[FaustsBoon]

04/23/2013 at 8:34 pm

Yes, please keep up the posts. Some of us are watching from afar… just trying to think about the distant future, and learning in the meantime.

[Fizbin]

04/24/2013 at 1:26 am

Thanks for the update. Consistency is definitely key, so keep up the great work! (and updates!)

[MasterSouthernStar]

05/12/2013 at 12:06 am

Recently I set up a playlist for her of the silent converter, Respectful Compliance, Feminine Dress Code and His Happiness. The past couple of weeks she has definitely returned to her previous standard of dresses and skirts. We had to get her a couple new pair of shoes today – so watch out for this recording it could cost you money! She’s also returned to being naked around the house more – which she had gotten away from. That would be more under the heading of compliance – so overall I do see progress. I’ve had some new issues crop up but overall we’re making progress. Generally speaking she seems to be more concerned with doing what I want her to do. So….

I’ve got her listening as much as she can every day. Pretty much all day that she can she’s running these recordings. I let her know that she was manifesting signs of compliance with the recordings and it appears to have gotten her more committed to the process. SO it’s good.

I’ll let you know more as we go.

[MasterSouthernStar]

06/15/2013 at 8:18 pm

Just a quick update….

We are still using the same playlist.  And it appears to be catching on.  She actually goes out of her way to make sure she listens – without me mentioning it. She constantly lets me know that any time I want any food – she will cook whatever I want.  She has reduced the number of “suggestions” that were actually thinly viewed attempts to steer activity.  Her history continues to fade and her treatment of me grows to be more on my merits than on her history – so that is a great thing.  Her Ex was a piece of crap and she’s still trying to get over that.  I really believe that these recordings are helping her attain self confidence and awareness that this relationship is not the old one.  If that’s all we got out of this it would be enough. 

But it’s going well.  We’ve both got physical issues going on right now, so it’s not as good as it could be, but we’re working on it.  She’s fully on board with the program and gets more motivated every day to get the most out of these recordings, so it’s all good.

Maybe not the most specific report ever, but it’s something anyhow.

[MasterSouthernStar]

07/29/2013 at 10:22 pm

Most recently….

            Today I initiated a new playlist for her.  This time made up of only two files – Slave Identity and Master’s Opinion.  My objective is to get her more comfortable with the ultimate slavey portion of her behavior.  Unfortunately through the day she is forced to deal with a great many issues outside of the house – and those get her back in the bad mental frame of mind that used to be her regular.  So every day that she has that stuff it’s a challenge.  Some days that stuff can even get her so upset that she isn’t at all someone I want to be near in the evening.  But those instances are decreasing although the stimulus that causes them is not – so maybe there’s hope yet.  I can usually get her to shut down to zero and reboot her personality so it’s a good thing.  I just hope all the crap that is causing this stops pretty soon.  It’s so stressful dealing with your family’s issues – and worse yet from thousands of miles away.  But there is hope.

            Right now health has come back up and no business trips – just the family stuff is the only problem we’ve really got.  So keep those fingers crossed.  I’ll let you know how the new playlist works – or if it works.

MSS

[Tap]

07/30/2013 at 2:02 am

MSS,

Is your goal to turn her completely into a slave doing anything you want or just a sex slave. Also, when you say sometimes she’s not a person you want to be near, is it because she gives you attitude or gets upset about things that stress her? My wife gets like that sometimes, being easily irritable. Sometimes I see it as a setback and maybe my subliminals aren’t having a good effect. Not sure what to think of it.

[FaustsBoon]

07/30/2013 at 12:30 pm

@MasterSouthernStar said:
Most recently….

 

            Today I initiated a new playlist for her.  This time made up of only two files – Slave Identity and Master’s Opinion.  My objective is to get her more comfortable with the ultimate slavey portion of her behavior.  Unfortunately through the day she is forced to deal with a great many issues outside of the house – and those get her back in the bad mental frame of mind that used to be her regular.  So every day that she has that stuff it’s a challenge.  Some days that stuff can even get her so upset that she isn’t at all someone I want to be near in the evening.  But those instances are decreasing although the stimulus that causes them is not – so maybe there’s hope yet.  I can usually get her to shut down to zero and reboot her personality so it’s a good thing.  I just hope all the crap that is causing this stops pretty soon.  It’s so stressful dealing with your family’s issues – and worse yet from thousands of miles away.  But there is hope.

 

            Right now health has come back up and no business trips – just the family stuff is the only problem we’ve really got.  So keep those fingers crossed.  I’ll let you know how the new playlist works – or if it works.

 

 

MSS

Just wanted to chime in, and wish you well man.  You’re already where many of us wish we were, so be sure to enjoy what you have, while focusing on all the successes ahead.  It would seem like most of the behaviors you want are already there, and that it is consistency that you’re looking for.  I’d like to think the subliminals will have an easier time cracking that one.

So, since starting, have you seen progress, or was this period up to now sort of discovering best-practices?  I know in my case that i’ve started considering my early, FAST, successes flukes, or something my own greed mucked up, and as such, in a way, i’m only REALLY starting my wife’s training now.

[MasterSouthernStar]

08/03/2013 at 6:15 pm

Tap;

              When she gets caught up in all her family’s personal Bullshit during the day, sometimes in the evening she can’t get back out of her family’s “ways”.  Her family is terribly mean spirited and manipulative – as well as being very self centered – so someone like her who is focused outside of herself gets abused regularly.  As soon as she’s in the oldest generation in her family I will start her on the file that Trainer has here intended to break someone from their family.  Right now there is still a bit of “filial duty” to be observed – but it’s very taxing on everyone in this household for her to do it.  Some evenings I come home and she’s spent all day arranging things for her Mom thousands of miles away and her head get SO FAR from where it should be – where we’ve spent so much time getting it – that it is really unpleasant.  Worse yet she will sometimes revert to her behaviour that she used when we first got together.  She told me when she came to me that she hated behaving like that and being that person and she begged me to change her.  I have done that – however incompletely. It’s just really frustrating to have to deal with.  That’s what I meant by Someone I didn’t want to be around. So in this case I don’t necessarily blame the subliminals – just her family.  We all know how big a hill that can be to climb.

              And yes my goal IS to get her completely totally immersed in slavery.  It’s what she wanted from the very first and what we’ve been working so hard towards.  The first few years were just trying to overcome all her baggage – the marriage I rescued her from wasn’t any better than her blood family – and honestly even worse – illegally so in fact.  Generally we’re over that but the blood family remains a problem on occasion.  But we’re working on it.  I believe she’s a girl who will be very happy being a total slave and I hope I can get her there sooner rather than later!

[MasterSouthernStar]

08/03/2013 at 6:27 pm

MSS

Just wanted to chime in, and wish you well man.  You’re already where many of us wish we were, so be sure to enjoy what you have, while focusing on all the successes ahead.  It would seem like most of the behaviors you want are already there, and that it is consistency that you’re looking for.  I’d like to think the subliminals will have an easier time cracking that one.

 

So, since starting, have you seen progress, or was this period up to now sort of discovering best-practices?  I know in my case that i’ve started considering my early, FAST, successes flukes, or something my own greed mucked up, and as such, in a way, i’m only REALLY starting my wife’s training now.

 

FaustsBoon;

         Thank you very much for your kind reply.  I do appreciate the support!

         And thank you also for your question, because it made me evaluate.  And yes there is definite progress since starting.  And yes there is behavioral evidence, but the primary factor in my mind is the attitudinal correction that has occurred in her since we’ve been using these.  She is always focused on serving now – always wants to be doing something to ensure that I know she’s following protocol if you will.  Her apparent commitment to being the servant she’s always wanted to be is much more apparent.  That’s a great thing.  Yes there are days when the old monsters surface from her past and we have to fight through that.  But it doesn’t happen all that often and honestly much less than it ever has since we’ve been together.  So it’s definitely a positive  – and one that I do attribute to the subliminals.   She is motivated and seems to take pride in listening regularly.  That’s something I really like.  She doesn’t know specifically whats in the recordings of course, but she tells me she doesn’t like to miss listening to them because she feels uneasy.  That I like even better.

        I didn’t really have any early fast successes like you did, so it’s all just slow and steady.  I’m happy with that even though sometimes its hard to see incremental improvements over time.  That’s teh value of this forum – and questions like yours.  They help us to see what we might not otherwise.

        Anyway all the best with your girl’s training.  Please keep us in the loop – as I know you do.  I enjoy reading your journal!

MSS

[MasterSouthernStar]

08/31/2013 at 7:25 pm

Well – time for an update….

              Big thing these days is the family troubles continue and are as big as they get.  Lots of angst and gnashing of teeth.  While that often limits her behavior, she is always quite vocal about wanting to serve properly and to minimize the impact on the house.  So it’s good.  The recent playlist ( Slave Identity and Master’s Opinion) appears to be taking hold solidly as she continues make a point of telling me how much she wants to do what I want.  Yesterday we had a great chat about communication and she asked me to amp up my “Master” behavior for her for the next little while.  She’s going out of tow next week for several weeks and asked that I don’t hold back on my commands during that time.  She wants to make sure to be my slave for this next week.  There are some limitations to that since we’re undergoing yet another round of medical crap for her.  ( Note – don’t get old – it sucks)  But as soon as she heals from this latest small procedure I will do what I can to reinforce the slave status.

             So overall I am encouraged.  This playlist seems to be taking hold pretty well and she appears quite desperate to be a proper and pleasing slave for me – to my guidelines. 

             I’ll write again in a while.

MSS

[Tap]

08/31/2013 at 11:32 pm

It sounds like you’re having great success with those two files. I think it does help when the subject wants to make the changes that are in the script.

[MasterSouthernStar]

09/01/2013 at 4:41 pm

Tap;

             I agree whole heartedly.  That’s what I’ve really got going for me in my efforts here.  She really wants to be what I want and so is motivated to acquiesce. We have to overcome all the years and years of programming, but I think I’ll get there eventually.  Thanks for contributing.

MSS

[FaustsBoon]

09/02/2013 at 5:02 pm

Nothing to really add, but I wanted to chime in and show my support, man.  Your words helped me, and I wanted you to know, as well, that you aren’t alone.  We’ve all got this emotional/physical roller-coaster that our partners may never even find out we were on, as well… but every man here has been through the same stuff, and we all want to reach the happy outcome.  

Keep us posted man, and good luck!

[MasterSouthernStar]

09/02/2013 at 7:32 pm

FB;

                Thanks man.  That kind of support means a lot to me as well.  This forum is the best thing I could hope for in this process.  Me here by myself makes it difficult to bring the level of attention and commitment on a day to day basis.  Being essentially in contact with others who are working similar programs is support that is priceless.  Knowing every minute that there ARE guys out there who are working the same thing makes my program that much more valuable to me and constantly pumps up my energy level.  At my age that’s the limitation too.  Some days you just want to forget about it.  But knowing others care and are with me means that I have extra motivation to work harder.  And just as anything else hard work is what yields result.  So thank you – and all here who help to reinforce.  My fondest wish is that we all get where we want to go and everyone concerned is happy with it.

MSS

[MasterSouthernStar]

02/16/2014 at 10:16 pm

Holy Moly I feel like I’ve been so slack!

Actually though I have been continuing to have her listen regularly. She has gotten more into the set of vocal hypnosis recordings I made for her, but she still does the subliminals too. Recently I have upgraded to Gold and since she specifically asked for a subliminal on weight loss and portion control I thought I would try that first. I’ve also got a submissive script started, but since I’m having trouble with the weight loss / portion control bit I thought I’d post it here in hopes that some of the incredibly gifted minds from this group might have some suggestions. The submissive one has been easy and feels right – but this weight loss thing….. I know nothing about weight loss. I’ve never had to worry about it so …. Heck reading it, it just doesn’t feel right. So I’m asking for help. Here’s what I’ve got so far……

I must strive to eat portions that provide nutrition, but are not excessive.

I must eat the least I can to provide my body the necessary nutrition.

I must eat less than I think I should.

I will not feel hungry after having eaten.

I must eat small portions that will provide nutrition.

Any weight loss is worthy of celebration.

I exercise as much as my health will allow.

Losing weight is a step towards happiness.

Portion Control will lead to weight loss.

Any ideas? I’m just not feeling this one. I could use any help. I just need to feel good about it before I go through the effort of turning it into a recording. and especially before I present it to her.

Be gentle.

MSS

[eldrin81]

02/16/2014 at 11:28 pm

Get rid of the ‘not’ stuff. The negatives are typically in effective in subs and cause her mind to focus on the wrong thing.

The first sentence for instance: I must strive to eat smaller portions.
Also maybe too many must statements. I like the word must myself, but not every statement. In this script it sounds like something she needs to do, but isn’t doing. Like something she could put off.

[tonguester4_69]

02/16/2014 at 11:33 pm

The weight loss one is tough. Do YOU think she’s overweight? If so, is she an emotional eater? Does she enjoy exercise? Rarely is overeating the bottom line problem, but a symptom. For instance, my wife finds security and comfort in food. This comes from growing up extremely poor. Food was always associated with good times for her. Is this more for her because of poor self-image? Maybe what she really needs, is a script addressing her looking the way YOU would like, rather than worrying what society thinks. I wrote a script on this subject, but I never posted it, or used it. If you like I’ll post it, but I think the bigger thing is figuring out what YOU think she needs to do.I’m wiling to help you figure this one out, because in helping you I may come up with ideas for mine.

[eldrin81]

02/17/2014 at 12:01 am

As someone that has 8 years of Lifting and dieting experience, as well as someone who is studying a personal trainer certification, I can say the number one problem why people are fat, is too many carbs/starches. This is as tonguester said, exacerbated by people eating those foods because of stress.

Best thing you can do is focus on smaller portions, and change the types of foods she eats, and exercise, both resistance training and ‘cardio’. Ease into it and make small changes at a time just like subliminals so you can form new habits.

Go read anything by John Kiefer.

[eldrin81]

02/17/2014 at 12:10 am

As an aside, as tonguester said, is she actually overweight? or is there just a small pudge in her belly that she obsesses over like most women? The other part of the weight loss equation is loving your body however it looks.

[MasterSouthernStar]

02/17/2014 at 12:21 am

Eldrin;

Great input – thank you. How about this…..

I strive to eat smaller portions.

I eat the least I can to provide my body the necessary nutrition.

I eat less than I think I should.

Eating any portion is satisfying.

I eat small portions that will provide nutrition.

Any weight loss is worthy of celebration.

I exercise as much as my health will allow.

Losing weight is a step towards happiness.

Portion Control will lead to weight loss.

MSS

[MasterSouthernStar]

02/17/2014 at 12:29 am

All;

And yes guys – sadly she is actually overweight. She has already lost over 100 pounds but she still has some to go. She is disabled and cannot exercise as much as she should because of that. Her first marriage was to a pig. That guy ate everything he could get his hands on – and she learned portion control from that. Worse yet, because she was trying to make herself unattractive to him – she actually tried to gain weight. He was abusive and she hoped it would keep him off her. Unfortunately it didn’t. But I got her out of that. Now she’s trying to get back to regular girl status. She’s actually not far from regular girl – but still has a way to go to the goal weight. I have no doubt she’ll get there though.

But because of her disability 95% of her weight loss has to be intake control. As mentioned she’s already doing well – but she asked me for this to help – so I’m trying. I appreciate all you guys’ input too!

MSS

[eldrin81]

02/17/2014 at 1:39 am

There’s always ways to exercise around most disabilities, unless you are totally paralyzed. It’s just a matter of figuring out how. I have seen some of the most disabled people do stuff in terms of physical activity that you wouldn’t think feasible.

[tonguester4_69]

02/17/2014 at 2:21 am

Maybe something regarding eating things that are good for her, or enjoying healthy foods? Also something like, “I only eat until I’m no longer hungry.”

[gtbear]

02/17/2014 at 4:31 am

MSS,

I am very new to this but… Reading the lines below made me think of how to add more punch to the lines. Here are some suggestions:

I strive to eat smaller portions. (I eat small portions.)

I eat the least I can to provide my body the necessary nutrition. (I eat to get nutrition.) (I eat only for nutrition.)

I eat less than I think I should. (I feel good when I eat less.) (It pleases me to eat less.) (I am happy when I eat less.)

Eating any portion is satisfying. (A little food fills me up.) (A carrot fills me up.) (Vegetables are good snacks.)

I eat small portions that will provide nutrition. (Vegies are health food.) (I always eat small portions.) (proper nutrition is good.)

Any weight loss is worthy of celebration. (Loosing weight makes me happy.) (Master is pleased when I loose weight.)

I exercise as much as my health will allow. (I exercise carefully.) (When I exercise I am happy.) (I exercise some each day.)

Losing weight is a step towards happiness. (Loosing weight makes me happy.)

Portion Control will lead to weight loss. (I always eat less to loose weight.)

I probably don’t have those down properly but I think the idea of format and content is still there. Hope that you find it useful.

[MasterSouthernStar]

02/17/2014 at 7:05 pm

Eldrin;

Thank you for your kind reply – and your help elsewhere in this forum.

She already does exercise when and where she can. For instance swimming is really the best she can do and she does that when she can. Lately she’s been off that due to medical issues not related to her disability. But we’re working that angle as much as we can. But thanks for pointing it out. My affirmation is hoped to reinforce the idea to teh point where maybe she will seek out new ways.

MSS

[MasterSouthernStar]

02/17/2014 at 7:17 pm

GT Bear;

Wow – thanks a lot for the very thoughtful reply. I appreciate the time you’ve taken.

I’ve taken your suggestion on changing “I eat less than I think I should” to “I am happy when I eat less”. I’ve also made the change from “Losing weight is a step towards happiness” to “Losing weight makes me happy.” Both of those changes maintain the idea of the original while stating it more succinctly. I sincerely appreciate that you took so much time and effort on this. The other suggestions you made were very good but I still feel better about those I posted – for now. Thanks a boatload for those two though – they’re very much more to the point and clearly stated than what I originally had.

MSS

[eldrin81]

03/13/2014 at 5:22 am

How goes the efforts my friend?

[MasterSouthernStar]

03/16/2014 at 6:09 pm

Eldrin;

Thanks for asking. Unfortunately I can’t really tell. AS regards actual result things are going quite well… A couple weeks ago she got weighed and she’d lost 11 pounds in the month leading up to that. Since then clothes that she had continue to appear to get looser – and she has even commented happily on that. As to whether it’s the subliminals…. I don’t know. She has had major medical issues and has really fallen off the wagon as far as listening is concerned. But since she had been listening intently before I think there might be some effect there. To remind you she knows about the subliminals and in fact asked me to create the weight loss one for her. So she IS on board with the process.

Generally I think it’s going well. Now that she’s out of all the big nasty intrusive (read surgery and recovery) type stuff we’ll get right back on it. I fell pretty good that it’s going to work.

I sincerely appreciate you asking. As you may have noticed I tend to get cross tracked and forget about keeping the forum posted. This comes from my short memory – combined with my natural “patience” and willingness to “wait and see.” So a little poke in the ribs now and again is a good thing for me. Thanks!

MSS

[eldrin81]

03/16/2014 at 6:19 pm

What is your current playlist like, and your scripts?

[FaustsBoon]

03/17/2014 at 4:54 pm

For what it is worth Eldrin is right about there always being a way to get healthier. By most metrics I am severely physically disabled, but just changes to diet, putting better things into your body, and it healthier amounts, can get you very, very far. I’ve never felt better at 34, just by cutting out fast-foods, etc…

Far too many people use disability, big or small, as an excuse, when in reality individuals have a lot more control over their lives than they usually suspect.

[MasterSouthernStar]

03/23/2014 at 5:18 pm

Gentlemen;

Thank you for your replies!

Eldrin- I’ve actually forgotten what’s on the playlist it’s been active so long. I do know there’s a weight loss custom, and a security and happiness custom. I think I might have another in there but can’t remember – have to go back and look it up. I am the king of patience. I’ll let these things go for months and months – no problem. I do need to spend some time on updating the playlist soon. I’ve just been busy.

Faustsboon Thank you for your suggestions. Please don’t get offended but in similar circumstances, if you choose to use yourself as an example, I would refrain from mentioning your age for another 15 or 20 years at least. I would kill (literally) to be 34 again. The physical advantage provided by that age is such that it invalidates comparison. You’ll probably understand this when you’re 60 or 70 or so – but you have an entirely different starting point for any physical effort. I’m glad for you – but you should know that in the sentence above including your age only detracts from the point you’re making. I appreciate and accept as valid the point – just trying to explain about the age thing. No offense intended.

MSS

[FaustsBoon]

03/24/2014 at 11:32 am

@MasterSouthernStar said:

Gentlemen;

Thank you for your replies!

Eldrin- I’ve actually forgotten what’s on the playlist it’s been active so long. I do know there’s a weight loss custom, and a security and happiness custom. I think I might have another in there but can’t remember – have to go back and look it up. I am the king of patience. I’ll let these things go for months and months – no problem. I do need to spend some time on updating the playlist soon. I’ve just been busy.

Faustsboon Thank you for your suggestions. Please don’t get offended but in similar circumstances, if you choose to use yourself as an example, I would refrain from mentioning your age for another 15 or 20 years at least. I would kill (literally) to be 34 again. The physical advantage provided by that age is such that it invalidates comparison. You’ll probably understand this when you’re 60 or 70 or so – but you have an entirely different starting point for any physical effort. I’m glad for you – but you should know that in the sentence above including your age only detracts from the point you’re making. I appreciate and accept as valid the point – just trying to explain about the age thing. No offense intended.

MSS

No offense taken, man.

I apologize if I misunderstood the situation, myself. Disability, age, etc… varies in how it treats people by such a wide margin, that it was foolish of me to assume one-size-fits-all, regardless of the severity of my own disability.

[eldrin81]

03/24/2014 at 12:33 pm

It certainly does. I am 32 and I push myself quite hard in the gym. I don’t recover or heal from injury near as quickly as just 5 years ago. I get sick more often too, but my ability to get sick is still far far less than others around me. Maybe once a year?

I always lament to people to get in shape, and eat right while they are still young. I believe and have seen that the effects of age, both in recovery, and physical appearance etc can be significantly delayed by staying healthier, earlier. Unfortunately, what the populace labels healthy is quite the opposite unfortunately. Usually riding the wave of USDA misinformation, 30 years behind the science.

[Fizbin]

03/24/2014 at 1:23 pm

@eldrin81 said:

It certainly does. I am 32 and I push myself quite hard in the gym. I don’t recover or heal from injury near as quickly as just 5 years ago. I get sick more often too, but my ability to get sick is still far far less than others around me. Maybe once a year?

I always lament to people to get in shape, and eat right while they are still young. I believe and have seen that the effects of age, both in recovery, and physical appearance etc can be significantly delayed by staying healthier, earlier. Unfortunately, what the populace labels healthy is quite the opposite unfortunately. Usually riding the wave of USDA misinformation, 30 years behind the science.

Not to mention that most people don’t even get the USDA stuff until years after it has been propagated, and even replaced. How many folks even know there were two pyramids, let alone that the pyramid concept itself is gone, replaced by a sectioned plate? (and who knows, I may even be out of date with that info…)

[J66R]

03/24/2014 at 2:23 pm

Forget the pyramids; the Four Food Groups are good enough for me!

[Fizbin]

03/24/2014 at 7:18 pm

@J66R said:

Forget the pyramids; the Four Food Groups are good enough for me!

Pizza, Beer, Caffeine, and Sugar?

[eldrin81]

03/24/2014 at 8:19 pm

Caffeine for sure.

[J66R]

03/24/2014 at 10:41 pm

As programmer/IT pro since the 80’s, I must say Caffeine is in all of the Four Food Groups.
Those being:
Pepsi, Coke, Dr. Pepper & Mt. Dew.

[keekeeros]

04/16/2014 at 6:01 pm

MSS

my wife lost almost 70lbs just watching carbs, I did it with a simple: watch the amount of carbs I eat.
I played that for at least 2 months hidden under soft jazz. Just another idea. I like

good luck

[eldrin81]

04/21/2014 at 12:12 pm

reducing carbs, is the most important thing a person can do to help lose bodyfat. Cutting calories will help lose weight, but we’re not trying to lose weight, as that measures everything. Bodyfat is what we want to lose. I highly recommend Kiefer’s book carb nite to anyone wanting to lose maximum bodyfat.

[gtbear]

04/23/2014 at 10:42 pm

@eldrin81 said:

reducing carbs, is the most important thing a person can do to help lose bodyfat. Cutting calories will help lose weight, but we’re not trying to lose weight, as that measures everything. Bodyfat is what we want to lose. I highly recommend Kiefer’s book carb nite to anyone wanting to lose maximum bodyfat.

eldrin,

I mentioned your post on the carbs and the fact that you are something of a body builder to C yesterday. Today, she has cutback on carbs… like toast and such almost like having included lines in a script. Thanks!