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November 22, 2013 at 10:02 pm #011/22/2013 at 10:02 pm
Like so many others, I have decided to start a journal. Measuring progress helps one make progress after all. It also allows for advice and feedback from others, and keeps me publicly accountable for my training.
About the wife
Got with my wife back in 2001. We are both 32/33. Got married in 2007, had a boy in 2010. My wife has always been the type to not follow through with anything, when things get difficult, she makes excuses, finds some way to run away, gets frustrated etc. She does this in all aspects of her life. In addition, she can’t take criticism worth a damn, or disagreement with her views. She always treats it as a personal attack, and gets highly defensive. This poses problems during legitamite discussions or arguments as she instinctively blocks or reroutes the conversation to limbo. She has always been selfish, and never does anything for anyone, especially me, without having a direct/immediate benefit. This is oh so true in the bedroom. Her bedroom attitudes over the last decade have shown signs of a repressed mental view. When we first got together, for the first year, the only thing we ever did was Missionary, and that was it. She didn’t like anything else she claimed, or it hurt, or some other excuse when I found her reasons did not pan out upon talking/investigation. Over the years I have gotten her to open up a bit more so I wouldn’t go nuts. She has shown signs of a playful, sexually adventurous woman trying to break out, but they are brief and fleeting as if some mental hangups cause her to revert to previous behavior. Oral has always been a touchy subject, with her excuses always changing, and explanations never extending beyond a few words that don’t really explain anything. On occasion I have tried the ‘man up’, ‘compliment her during’, and ‘make it fun for her’ (69) types of coercion, but she always reverts. During 69 she would frequently get into it alot, especially as I ramped up giving her pleasure, but aftward always had these shy hangups about taking it all the way, which a day or so later would always revert to the attitude that it was somehow wrong, or nasty, or some other excuse. Her brother and father were always over critical growing up, and I believe this is where her hangups about criticism and change stem from. I believe she may have received her sexual attitudes from a combination of her parents, who were isolated rural types who frequented a prudish church, and some of her boyfriends in her 2 year military career. She often complained about ones lack of size, and had nothing special to say about the other. Once when we first started, I gave her what I believe was her first orgasm. She was my first as well, so I had no idea what a female orgasm even looked like until I saw it, took me more than a few times. I remember she her contorting and and moaning, and then saying afterward that she tingled all over and didn’t know why. To which I replied “thats an orgasm dear…”. She has always been a bit of a tomboy, and never really wore anything feminine. The second time she wore makeup was during our wedding, which she looked gorgeous for, and the first time she ever wore hotpants/short shorts, was for me a few years into our relationship.
Me
I used to be a very awkward, shy, socially withdrawn, beta male type. I was when we first met. However over the last decade, I have improved and changed myself. I have lifted weights and become very strong/fit, strived for ever increasing goals, refuse to give up on anything I value, and developed a take no shit, dominant and sometimes aggressive attitude. This brings me more in line with an alpha male persona, but our relationship has always been one of a varying power struggle like so many other long term couples experience.
Goals:
1. Eliminate her selfish behavior, changing her to more of a husband’s servant mentality.
2. Get more sex/arousal in general.
3. Bring her out of her shell, getting her to dress sexy/feminine more often, and be more open minded in the bedroom.
4. Longterm goal: more BJ’s. This one might take awhile, I fully intend to constantly leave an oral script in place for months to achieve this goal, while supporting it with other scripts.
Like so many others who started, I fell into the trap of being impatient and trying to change too many things at once, with too many scripts, rather than starting at the beginning, and changing underlying behaviors that affect everything and building upon that, and sticking with the same subs for 30 days. I’m done with that now.
The past month we had alot of fighting about her behavior, her selfishiness got worse during the month of October, and her sex drive, which has always been lower than mine, disappeared altogether. She seemed annoyed at the thought of doing anything with me, sexually, or recreationally, and I was convinced she was cheating, or about to cheat. Its now been a month and a half, and I never found any evidence of Infidelty, but was convinced she felt trapped/stale in our marriage and was feeling a little too chummy with a particular guy at work. I noticed alot of behaviors and body language that supported this. Good news is that this all made me sit up, and reassert myself in the marriage and subscribe to this site. I now believe that whatever may have happened, or was about to happen, stopped. She also became pregnant, and we found out the first week of November. However she continued exhibiting a lack of desire to do anything with me up until recently when we had a couple bad arguments. She blamed this on the pregnancy, and maybe that is partly true, but her fatigue and Morning sickness(which lasts all day) only came about mid November. Either way, not having sexy for 2-3 weeks at a time drives me nuts, and causes me undue stress and tension in our marriage. I still have as strong a libido as I did in my 20’s, and I am aroused by my pregnant wife even more.
Our last and final argument it seems had me driving around town with her in the passenger seat, and me laying down how it was about her being totally selfish and failing to meet any and all of my needs in the relationship for weeks, while I slaved away trying to do for her as much as possible. I informed her our marriage could not continue until she stopped thinking of herself, and told her that was my job to worry about all her needs, it was her job to take care of MY needs. I continued on until she stopped trying to end the argument with her normal patterns, eventually she got quiet alltogether, and I continued in a much calmer fashion, telling her my hostility came from her desire to skirt responsibility for all issues and always run away. After another 20 minutes we went home, And I continued to show my willingness to do for her, while she took a nap. The next couple days, she acted cold and distant, and I tried to make her feel better, like this was a positive thing. During this time I also did more reading on these forums, and decided that I needed to refocus my efforts.
I threw out all my custom scripts, and read alot of the ones others had posted. I decided that the foundation I had to start with was something like His Happiness. But instead of that, I wrote my own, tailored to our situation and what I believe are her attitudes, with my name peppered throughout. The next two I use are Qwerty’s Arousal, and Qwerty’s Oral(this one is awesomely worded), and another short term script I titled ‘Play with my breasts’. Yes this is four scripts, so it may be too much, especially the first 3 have many lines. However All four scripts have overlapping language throughout, and they sort of build on each other, so I figured I would leave it at that for 30 days. Its better to proceed with an imperfect solution than to flip flop constantly and spin my wheels trying for a perfect one.
Also when I made these changes, I set the voice speed to -6. It had previously been only -2. This may have been very well too fast for her to pick up, as upon listening, some of the words even for me sounded a bit too unintelligble. I know she cannot read or process information near as fast as me, and this simple fix may have been hindering me all along.
After two days of this, her attitude had changed completely. She now seems to genuinly want to make me happy though she has yet to make any grand overtures. She does not complain at all about things I do, and If I joke around about sex, she no longer seems annoyed. Twice now she has asked my permission to watch a show she wants to watch or do something she wants, and it was a submissive, feminine tone of voice, not a sarcastic remark out of anger. The most noticeable thing I have seen is my ability to touch her breasts without her swatting my hand away and act annoyed. She has always gotten very turned on in the bedroom about playing with them, but outside, a quick grab here and there would always warrant her angrily or annoyingly slapping my hand away. I have tested this with multiple grabs and she no longer even pays it no mind. This excited me as it meant that in some manner this was working, and I have tested it multiple times over the last two days to rule out a fluke. Now I just need to get her to bed me without throwing a fit, and I made some jokes and innuendo about it today, and she never put up any sort of wall or complaint. We will see how it goes.
11/23/2013 at 1:48 amThat’s a lot of information. I think 4 scripts might be a bit too much. I’d say 3 max is a good start. I think a custom script around His happiness is good, but adding some affirmations about obeying you, liking your control, and being submissive to you might kick down her attitude a bit. Your wife in some ways seems like how mine was, but I’ve managed to get that under control with the help of my customs.
11/23/2013 at 1:14 pmYa, I guess I’m hestitant to cut anything else out at this point. I do play this nonstop practically. All night during sleep, then off my ipad while we are in the house most of the day. I have changed the language so my own subconcious will recognize it doesn’t apply to me.
But maybe the arousal script could go, since there seems to be alot of language in the other 3 about getting aroused. Also sexual acts lead to sex anyway, and if I add a few lines about more submissiveness to my custom script(I posted it in Share Files section, For my Husband) she will just give it up anyway. Frankly at this juncture its been two weeks, and I don’t care if she wants it or not, just that she doesn’t throw a fit when I try to get me some. She has always had this disconnect leading up to the act, and during it. During the actual act she is all into it, but before hand she acts like and will go without it for long periods of time if I do nothing.
On a side note, has anyone experienced alleviation of minor physical symptoms from subliminals? Like the first couple lines in my custom Play with my breasts script talks about her breasts being less sore than before. That was another added on issue as to why I couldn’t touch her breasts with a 10 ft pole was they were so tender, but since I started playing this script, she doesn’t complain of that anymore.
Do you think I should turn the For my Husband Script and/or the Oral script into a sledgehammer?
11/23/2013 at 2:00 pmHonestly, sledgehammers are great IMO, and are something I insist on using… but i’ve got to agree with Tap, and in fact even more vehemently say that you’re being too ambitious. You could play those subliminals for 24hrs a day, but with the volume you’re throwing at her, nothing will stick.
I remember being at the start of this journey with a very, very similar wife, but i’ve got to say, no matter how tense it is, and how frustrated you are right now, you need to take a breath and slow way, way down.
Initially I would even say three scripts is too much. Old, generally agreed upon wisdom involved starting with several weeks of just the Amy Converter. This is largely unneeded, but the pacing it introduced was a good idea.
I suggest not trying to change everything at once, and being smart about it. Work on one underlying issue. As Tap says, “His Happiness” playing exclusively for a month might be a terrific start. In month two add a second script. Keep total affirmations LOW as possible… initially, if you’re focused, i’d say thirty to forty affirmations with that all-day repetition is plenty. And build from there, never exceeding three modest length scripts AT MOST.
You’ll get there man. And we’re here for you. 🙂
11/23/2013 at 2:52 pmLet me add my voice to Taps and Fausts. Think of it like you are introducing change to her. The more changes you introduce at the same time the more likely she will be overwhelmed and will shut down. The three of us have had simular issues with our partners as you are having with yours. Take it slow. Build momentum. This is a marathon not a Sprint. We are all here for you and just think of the strides that Faust, Tap and I made once we slowed down. Good luck and let us know how we can help.
11/23/2013 at 3:58 pmI agree with the others. I love the sledghammers and that is almost all I use nowadays. I also try to maintain a consistent theme. As I jumped from script to script, I always tried to keep a common thread running in the scripts. Always one thing to bind them. If I ran more than 3 scripts, two of those were so similarly close to each other they may as well have been the same.
And be patient……always be patient. Thats great you are getting quick results ( I will post my updatelater) but still stay patient. Dont jump the gun!! That will backfire.
11/23/2013 at 8:13 pmYa I have cut out the arousal script, gotten rid of all negative emotion statements from my custom for my husband, and reworded the when statements to not sound like a programmers if then clause. Also Never realized about setting textalouds to file as a 44100 16 bit stereo wave. So I did that and when I loaded up in audacity the voices were even clearer and more realistic.
gonna stick with this for the next week and see if anything needs tweaked from there, if necessary lower the volume of statements back. This whole process is like pruning a bonsai tree Lol.
i will be working on turning some of these scripts into sledgehammers in the meantime though. Some questions, do you guys always use different voice speeds? Is that something that is critical or does it matter the most to have a chorus or different sounding voices talking in first, second, and third person? What’s the minimal number of voices you guys use? I read qwertys post on using 3 or more for the third person part, does each voice say the same third person script, or do all three have a tweaked script using a different third person term?
11/23/2013 at 11:34 pmI use three voices for the I ( I am always horny) statements and 4 for the YOU statements (You are always horny). I am cheap and only have 3 voices – I then record the statements with the base voices, and change the pitch to make different voices.
11/26/2013 at 5:47 pmSome updates, 11/24
it had been two weeks sunday with no sex. I had an argument out of frustration with her, but her normal resistance seemed mostly gone. She did try to retort back once but when I did not back down, she did and became apologetic. She then told me that she was too ‘bleh’ with pregnancy symptoms to initiate sex, but if I wanted it, to just take it. During October when I just took it all I got was complaint and belly aching, so maybe I was ill prepared for a more submissive attitude, having been conditinned a bit by her behavior to be more hesitant. You can only get burned so many times before you hesitate to put your hand on the stove. No matter, I can return to my normal ways of being more aggressive if she is going to comply without complaint. She was much more forthcoming with explanations and real reasons about what she felt and thought rather than simply saying, I dunno, or nothing… Which was her usually habit.
Afterwards I gave her a few minutes to let that sink in, checked to make sure our son was asleep, then of course, took her. She got aroused very quickly, and while I talked dirty to her in her ear, I asked her some playful questions: if she really needed this as much as me and didn’t realize it? she replied with a maybe, and then a resounding yes. if she wanted wanted me to take her everyday? To which she playfully said, well maybe every other day… She climaxed very quickly, beating me to the punch, and during any talk or answer she gave she used this cute, feminine, very submissive voice, almost like an innocent girl voice that I never heard her use before, but was arousing in and of itself. The sex itself was very simple missionary, rightly at that point I was up for sex of any kind, and wasn’t going to push the envelope too much On positions and kinky stuff, I need to get frequency back first.
11/26/2013 at 6:01 pm11/25
accidentally deleted my mp3 files, and had to re do them quickly before wife got home, didn’t have time to use qwertys nyquist like I had been, used trainers instead. this day and thru this morning (11/26) she seems to be back sliding a bit, starting to brush my hand a way when touching her breasts. She did get sick and throw up right before bed, so I told her I would leave her alone tonite, and apologizd for poking her in the back with my erection When we cuddled. She said she was sorry, and I told her no problem she had given me good sex the last nite, to which she replied, I just wanna make you happy.
11/26/2013 at 6:57 pm11/26 Morning, while she slept I re did the sub files with the same amp/nyquist prompt I had before the accidental deletion, playing them all day, and tonite. Same scripts though.
11/27/2013 at 12:56 amI don’t think there’s much difference between Qwerty’s nyquist and Trainer’s. You can try adding affirmations with specific sex actions and positions you want her to like. I’ve had some success with that.
11/27/2013 at 11:08 amCongratulations on the breakthrough! Sorry to hear about the rework, but such is life in the digital age…
Anyway, re-recording to get the transform back to its original state is probably a good idea. I don’t know that I would blame the backslide on it, as it was only one day, but I would say that consistency is a good thing.
11/27/2013 at 4:30 pmBeen working on a single script that encompasses the same ideas as my current three scripts in a much more organized and condensed format. once I release it, it would be the only script I would play much like some of the long but solitary custom scripts I see being used. Right now it’s only about 30 or so affirmations.
11/27/2013 at 10:22 pmPerhaps there isn’t much difference in the nyquist prompts, but I have had better success(or so it seems) with qwerty’s and for consistency wanted to stick with what Seems to work. We haven’t had sex since 11/24, but I haven’t tried to, as her morning sickness peaked the last few nights before bed, so I gave her some space. Her sense of smell is superhuman levels right now, and any and all bodywash, spray or deoderant tends to overpower her and make her queasy, so I’m trying different things so her super smell doesn’t get in the way of our sex life for gods sake. Going to maybe try our sons J&J toddler formula, it barely smells at all and forgo the deodorant, as I’m not going to some office job or anything where it would matter, and with it being cold I barely sweat.
11/27
Lots of breast grabbing today, not a peep out of her, nor any brushing/slapping my hand away. Not even so much as a weird/disgusted look. She just accepted it. Tried various grabs with different firmness, and different lengths of time. All worked. Such a simple/silly thing I know but it shows progress and that the subs are taking so its always nice. Plus I’m a boob man and those things have doubled in size [Image Can Not Be Found]
Today she took a shower about noonish, and I snuck in there after she got out to dry off, while she was still naked and wet. Firmly grabbed a handful of breast, then playfully smacked her on the ass as she turned around and bent over and told her “I’m gonna take that ass tonite”. She replied: “Okay.” Still not worried about the apparent lack of enthusiasm, because after all she is dealing with first trimester fatigue, but she is not fighting me off or belly aching, she is submitting, so I see that as progress. Will try some different things in the sack tonite and see how it goes. For instance, it took me a year to get her to do Doggy style(my fav, esp cuz shes got a nice butt) but for the past 10 years when I flip her over, she always groaned with disdain and told me I was being weird. So we will see how she responds to some minor changes in position, or if she shows no signs of nausea I will command her to gimme a BJ and gauge her response against her usual.
11/27/2013 at 10:31 pm11/26 addendum:
My wife has been coming home from work increasingly late for weeks now, each day a few minutes later, until she now gets home at 30+ minutes after her shift ends, but the drive at night has no traffic and only takes 10 mins. She tells me this is not late for her, that its what time she normally gets home, I tell her that late is a significant time after her shift ends. She is a simple stocker in the paper goods section, and there are no managers/customers there to speak of at night, so she doesn’t have any pressure to stay for long periods after her shift is over.
The night of 11/26 I was in there shopping and when I left I simply told her: “See you later honey, About a quarter after okay?” but I said it like a statement not so much a question. To my surprise she showed up at home at 13 mins after.
11/28/2013 at 12:49 am@eldrin81 said:
For instance, it took me a year to get her to do Doggy style(my fav, esp cuz shes got a nice butt) but for the past 10 years when I flip her over, she always groaned with disdain and told me I was being weird. So we will see how she responds to some minor changes in position, or if she shows no signs of nausea I will command her to gimme a BJ and gauge her response against her usual.My wife was similar in that she didn’t like doggy style. Through my various long customs and sex only customs, I had some affirmations to deal with it. Now I just have one in my sex custom:
“The doggy style position feels so good.”
It’s now to the point where she flips herself over as if she likes that position now. We do that position every time we do it.
11/28/2013 at 3:46 pmSome mixed progress last nite on 11/27
she got home, I tried for a breast grab before bed, she brushes me away. Her old behavior might be still fighting thru, but the brush always seem half baked at best when they do happen.
i go to bed her and she starts telling me she is cold, it’s sleepy time, etc. this is typical behavior for her, leagues better than the annoyed blow ups from October, as when she acts this way she usually just talks but doesn’t put up a physical fight. Her tone of voice is more one of laziness and whiny than annoyed and uninterested. No big deal, but I hate it anyway, so I tell her to stop being so whiney and proceed to yank her pants off.
i go down on her, after a minute or so she is gyrating her hips and pulling down on the back of my head, I ask her if she wants some dick, she says no, don’t stop. I pull back long enough to tell her she owes me then, she says what do you want, pauses and says, okay but you will have to wait until I don’t feel like I’m gonna throw up all the time. She gets off.
i do my thing, then switch it up with tit sex, she complies and just asks me to go easy, I finish.
she says she is sorry, she was afraid if she didn’t get off right then and waited, she might lose it and not be able to. I told her that was perfectly okay, as long as she complies with my wishes after.
before when I hinted at oral, even if she had to figure it out herself, she would make comments about me always wanting that now, or flat out no. The fact that she came to that conclusion that i wanted a bj on her own and entertained the idea. The fact that the only blockage seemed to be coming from fear of vomiting due to her super sense of smell and nausea, feels like progress to me.
Hopefully the occasional breast brush off is just vestigial behaviors rearing their ugly head on the way out, like a drunk being escorted out of a bar yelling one last time as he exits.
11/28/2013 at 4:36 pmAlso as of last nite 11/27 I have changed to a single script. This script still focuses on the exact same ideas and goals as to what my previous 3 were, but is contained in a single script of fewer than 50 affirmations. It has clusters of 3-4 statements with a 3sec pause between blocks, and they are arranged to build towards the next set. I also added a couple simple but specific behavior statements in appropriate blocks that I could use as a benchmark. this will be the only script I continue to play until I feel these behaviors are set in. Will post the script later tonite.
11/29/2013 at 2:54 pm@eldrin81 said:
Perhaps there isn’t much difference in the nyquist prompts, but I have had better success(or so it seems) with qwerty’s and for consistency wanted to stick with what Seems to work.<>
When I do mine, I encode, save the MP3, Re-open the MP3, and then do a “decode” nyquist. I play that result to make sure the file produces a real output. The decoder nyquist is:
(setq carrier 14500)
(lowpass8 (mult 2 s (hzosc carrier)) 8000)
Just change the 14500 to whatever frequency you used for your encoding.
11/29/2013 at 6:21 pmSo u r just checking to make sure the original message didn’t get garbled?
12/01/2013 at 3:22 am@eldrin81 said:
So u r just checking to make sure the original message didn’t get garbled?Correct. What should come out is a reasonable facsimile of the voice output from your TTS Synth. There will always be some degradation, but it should certainly be clearly intelligible.
This is also how I QA what I download, and know whether it matches what it says on the tin.
12/03/2013 at 1:49 pmComplete backslide the last4-6 days. Her attitude turned to one of distance and anger and annoyance. She remained on the other side of the couch, whereas before she was coming over and cuddling and being affectionate. She spent most of her time on her ipad or doing something else without wanting to include me. She started barking orders at me instead of talking politely and acted angry almost constantly. Of course I didn’t back down, and atleast she did once I asserted that I wasn’t a dog to be ordered around. Things did not help when My uncle passed away this weekend. The stress of the situation on both of us, and my overly hyper 3 year old who is also being rebellious, put a strain on both our patience. Found out when I got home by accident, that she was hiding the fact from me she had started bleeding again during her pregnancy. I waited for her to tell me but she never did, so we got into a fight about that, And I told her I didn’t want her hiding ANYTHING from me. She said she felt like i was spying on her, to which I replied that I had just answered a text message on her phone and saw something she hadn’t told me. Handed her my phone and said I was an open book, and she should have nothing to worry about on her phone if she doesn’t have anything to hide. Told her that I expected her to tell me things upfront and not keep tightlipped or secretive about them. This is all pretty much behavior that was in place before the subs started having an effect.
While the hiding of info angers me, this is expected. I did change scripts, and there was a very stressful situation at play. This won’t help me in the short term, and curse my tinkerer’s brain, but I decided last night out of pure curiosity to try the new scripting pattern I was suggesting to another member here.
I will post it here, and you guys may leave feedback, but to hinder further flip flopping, I am uninstalling audacity and textaloud, and hiding its product key, to make it much harder for myself to change or further fiddle with scripts. This is akin to taking all junk food out of your house, because if you have to run to the store for that candy bar, you will talk yourself out of it.
This is mostly an experiment out of curiosity, and I realize it will delay my wife getting out of her backslid state, but I am of a scientific mind and like to do trial runs and fiddle to help me understand things. Its both a boon and a curse.
12/03/2013 at 2:05 pmThere is a pause between each block, but only a short one, My wife has shown comprehension and progress in my first 3 scripts that had no pauses whatsoever, so In my own personal case I don’t see any efficacy in their use. each block is supposed to lay the foundation for the later ones.
(This block is like a condensed amy converter)
I am open to change.
My subconscious is open to change.
Change is good for me.
I want to change.
These words are my thoughts.
I accept my thoughts.
I accept these words.
{{Pause=1}}(Establishes both a personal and outside needs to be a good wife)
I want to be a good wife to Eldrin.
God wants me to be a good wife to Eldrin.
I need to be a good wife to Eldrin.
My family wants me to be a good wife to Eldrin.
Being a good wife to Eldrin makes me happy.
I love being a good wife to Eldrin.
{{Pause=1}}(Putting my happiness first, i believe this is the foundation of all that we do here at this site)
I am a good wife.
A good wife makes her husband happy above all else.
I love making my husband happy.
Making Eldrin happy makes me the happiest.
I love Eldrin more than life.
{{Pause=1}}(You need trust before you need submission, or acting naughty or changing behavior)
I am a good wife.
A good wife trusts her husband in every way possible.
I feel free to trust Eldrin completely.
I love trusting Eldrin with everything.
{{Pause=1}}(You need honesty and openess for communication so you can troubleshoot problems, but trust is a prerequisite.)
I am a good wife.
A good wife tells her husband everything.
I am happy to tell Eldrin all my secrets.
I love being open with Eldrin about my thoughts and feelings.
I am always honest with Eldrin.
{{Pause=1}}(A new clause of for an old problem. She has always been distant when I am down or hurt, still it plays to the general theme of being for me first)
I am a good wife.
A good wife supports her husband during times of pain.
I enjoy being supportive of Eldrin.
I love making Eldrin feel better.
{{Pause=1}}(General submission. A neccessary clause to allow naughty behavior, and quell powerstruggle behavior)
I am a good wife.
A good wife submits to her husband’s desires.
I love submitting to Eldrin’s desires.
Submission to Eldrin makes me feel wonderful.
{{Pause=1}}(Dressing sexy makes my wife think of herself as more attractive, boosts her ego, plus I’m a guy and love it.)
I am a good wife.
A good wife always dresses sexy and feminine for her husband.
I love dressing in tight, sexy clothes for Eldrin.
I love wearing revealing clothes for Eldrin.
{{Pause=1}}(After the previous clauses about my happiness, trust and submission, she needs to be aroused to love sex.)
I am a good wife.
A good wife is always turned on by her husband.
I am always hot and wet for Eldrin.
The sight of Eldrin makes me horny everyday.
{{Pause=1}}(Loving sex, standing on the shoulders of the previous clauses, the everyday remark is probably a pipe dream, but I figure aim for the extreme and hope she lands atleast in the middle)
I am a good wife.
A good wife loves having sex with her husband everyday.
I love having sex with Eldrin everyday.
I am happy to let Eldrin have sex with me everyday.
{{Pause=1}}(A girl needs to be naughty to entertain nonstandard ideas of sex)
I am a good wife.
A good wife acts naughty for her husband.
I love being Eldrin’s naughty girl.
I love doing naughty things just to please Eldrin.
{{Pause=1}}(This one I was on the fence about including, but frankly if this can be achieved, she will feel more comfortable performing nonstandard sex acts)
I am a good wife.
A good wife loves watching porn with her husband.
I love watching porn with Eldrin.
I love being Eldrin’s personal porn star.
I want to watch porn right now.
{{Pause=1}}(Seeing herself as my sex toy is merely a specific form of submission towards sex.)
I am a good wife.
A good wife is happy to be her husbands sex toy.
I love being Eldrins sex toy.
I love letting Eldrin do whatever he wants during sex.
{{Pause=1}}(The oral/BJ clause)
I am a good wife.
A good wife loves to suck her husband’s c ock everyday.
I love sucking Eldrin’s c ock everyday.
I think Eldrin’s c ock tastes delicious.
I think Eldrin’s come, tastes delicious.
I love swallowing Eldrin’s come.
{{Pause=1}}(Something she has done for me once, I think its hot, some think its disgusting. She didn’t seem as disgusted about it as swallowing.)
I am a good wife.
A good wife lets her husband ejaculate on her pretty face.
I love letting Eldrin ejaculate on my pretty face.
I know this makes Eldrin so happy.
{{Pause=1}}(Something more likely to occur. She does like having her breasts played with during sex, and I had success to some degree with the other dedicated script on breast play.)
I am a good wife.
A good wife presents her tits for her husband to play with.
I love letting Eldrin play with my tits.
I love sleeping topless with Eldrin.
{{Pause=1}}(General wrap up, closing statements)
I am a good wife.
A good wife does whatever is necessary to please her husband.
I am happy to do whatever is necessary to please Eldrin.
I love Eldrin so much.12/03/2013 at 2:17 pm12/2/2013:
Started Playing my good wife script a couple hours before bed, and all thru the nite. It is encoded at -25 amp, using Qwertys nyquist. I keep the volume at full, so I set the ipad 5-7 feet away from her on the dresser on the otherside of the bedroom, or on the other side of the living room, with speaker pointed at her. this has worked best in the past.
12/03/2013 at 5:07 pmGood luck! Nice idea for getting rid of the temptation to tinker.
That’s a pretty long script, so consistency in playback will be very important in order for it to “take”. Otherwise it seems pretty decent. Just be careful she doesn’t go sticking earbuds into the iPad at full volume! Whether you hear it or not, the output is pretty high, and can damage the acoustic equipment (both technological and biological).
And, as always, don’t play it where the 3 year old is likely to be hanging out for any significant length of time. In addition, it is almost a guarantee that the child can hear (though not consciously understand) the playback, so the “Why is Daddy’s ‘puter squeaking?” question is likely to come up.
12/03/2013 at 6:39 pmYa no chance on the earbuds. She has her own ipad. The boy never stays in any one room for any length, and neither of them have noticed anything. I try to keep the thing a good distance away at full volume or turn it down a few notches otherwise. Usually he is off playing in his room, or if he is watching tv in the living room I set the ipad on a very tall bookshelf pointed away from him but at my wife. the tv is too loud usually for any of us to hear squeaking that appears to be odd, other than normal stuff that comes from electronics anyway.
12/03/2013 at 6:41 pmThe script itself runs about 4:30 minutes long from start to finish. But being it’s now the only one playing, it is less affirmations and less minutes than any previous multi script combos so I don’t see it as a big deal, just need to stick with it and only it, until January.
12/04/2013 at 2:57 pm12/3/2013:
Played the script all day long and all nite during sleep.
She had a rough time of it early in the AM on 12/3 as she woke up twice and vomited then vomited once more closer to noonish. So needless to say, sex was off the menu.
However her attitude seemed to have improved alot, shifting back to a loving attitude of sorts.
In the late afternoon she made a point to come over to my side of the couch to get close to me.
In the evening she motioned for me to come over and cuddle with her on the couch after the boy went to bed rather than remaining on the other side of the couch until I complained about about her lack of affection or interest.
Analysis: This may be the script getting her attitude back straight. However, I cannot ignore the fact that she felt like crap all day, and she wasn’t putting up with alot of stress from situations or my son. She may simply still being selfish, wanting affection and closeness because SHE felt bad and vulnerable. Only time will tell if this is the case. However I think the woman feeling vulnerable, and wore down plays to our benefit here on this site. I can think of no other time when our subliminal scripts would be more effective than during a time period when she is feeling vulnerable/wore down. Best to keep up with the consistency during this time and build towards future triumph.
12/05/2013 at 2:29 pm12/4/2013:
Still no sex for just over a week. Though I haven’t pushed the issue since she had really bad morning sickness for the better part of this week. Hopefully this subsides to some reasonable level soon, gonna try some nutritional support like b vitamins, and epsom salts and bone broth for Magnesium, as I have read many women have had success with that, the drugs only help marginally.
Breast touching, grabbing was off the menu today, and last nite as well. She quickly brushes my hand away with annoyance, though she doesn’t say anything. I guess this is to be expected since 1/3 of my previous script combo used to be about breast play, now its about 4 lines in my single custom. Hopefully this will pick back up with consistent repeated play, as the overall playlist length is much shorter and gets more repeats per hour.
Affection wise she is up. I tried to test the waters all day by remaining distant, and just out of reach, without seeming angry or overtly uninterested. All day she made a point to initiate contact with me, trying to touch me in affectionate ways, innocently motioning for me to come over to her side of the couch, or coming the distance to me when I did not. When in the dining room working on the laptop, she repeatedly got up during commercials and came in to be near me.
At night when we went to bed I laid with my back to her on the far side of the bed. She repeatedly rubbed her hand across my back, or around my chest. She told me she loved me without me prompting or intiating. She was empathetic and apologized for my friend cancelling and backing out on game night for Thursday afternoon, even though we both knew she had nothing to do with it
This has been an ongoing issue with me as friends have recently moved away, and the remaining ones are distracted and just don’t seem to want to put in the effort to leave the house anymore. I’m a tabletop RPG gamer (D&D, Pathfinder, WoD etc.) Through and through and enjoy it far more than video games (which I do love).
This was a big deal her acting sympathetic and showing some empathy, as not but a month or two ago she admitted that when our son was sick, she wanted to take his place, but said that when I was sick she just thought “Get over it..”
I also found my customized version of Qwerty’s arousal script lurking on my ipad. I had thought I deleted all other scripts I was using from before, but decided to make use of it. I’ve seen where some of you guys play arousal scripts for a couple hours during the day as a targeted “get her in the mood” tactic, So I have followed suit. For about 2 hours a day, during or leading up to time periods where the boy was going to be fast asleep or away, I have played this script in hopes it would get her in the mood, before reverting back to my Single custom for the rest of the day and overnite. We shall see if has any results.
So it seems that the first part, the emotional side of the script is falling into place. Hopefully as the week sets in and perhaps as we get her nausea under control, the second more sexual half of the script will start showing results.
12/05/2013 at 2:33 pm12/5/2013(Early Morning):
Woke up at 7 today, my wife never wakes up before 9am, and actually as of this writing (9:30) she is still asleep.
Decided to switch to the Arousal script for a couple hours(Figured there might be a chance for some morning sex before the boy awoke.) She is usually least nauseous in the morning (go figure for morning sickness right). I couldn’t fall asleep and just laid there watching her, could tell she was in REM sleep, and saw the hint of a smile as she dreamt. Hopefully it was of me. Left it running for now until she wakes up even though the opportunity is now gone since my 3 yr old son is wide awake and I sit here typing in the journal in the dining room.
Late Morning/Afternoon:
Tried grabbin the girls this morning, she never brushed away or complained. While the boy was playing in his own room, She asked me to make eggs for her for breakfast, and I told her I would in exchange for her flashing her breasts at me, though I didn’t indicate when or where. She gave me a look and shook her head, but I stood there smiling and said nothing. After a few seconds she did it, said something about it making me more horny and not leaving her alone. I smiled and as I walked away I told her that it must be horrible to have a husband that still adores her body after 12 years, to which she cracked a smile.
Twice more before she went to work I grabbed for the girls, once while she was changing her shirt and was topless in her room. No backtalking or brush aways, or looks. Made sure to whistle at her and tell her how sexy I thought she was, got a hint of a grin.
Late evening:
Went to visit her at work. Saw she was all smiles and laughing talking to an older fellow. We get to the breakroom and it is just us, and I notice she is no longer smiling at all, barely talking, and starts reading some magazine (Walmart World of all things). I give it 5-10 minutes then get up and get ready to leave, telling her I didn’t come here to watch her read a magazine and barely talk to me. “Ohhhh, just sit down!” she says. I re-iterated the same thing, and told her it was damn rude to do that.
My wife requests me wait until she gets off so we can do some xmas shopping and take advantage of her 25% off coupon for working thanksgiving day, which you can only use on dec 5 or 6. While shopping my wife seems happier, if not tired, (its 10pm) but reaches in and grabs my butt and gives it a squeeze. Needless to say that was awesome. She hasn’t done that since September.
By the time we get home its late, we wind down watching some netflix and facebooking on ipads. I’ve got Qwerty’s sex arousal script playing in the background as she seems to be somewhat flirty already from the buttgrab. I try for a breast grab, and get brushed off. Still no words of annoyance or foul looks though, so thats good.
We go to bed at midnight, and after she comes out of the bathroom I am already naked, and she makes this face and shoves me away. I tell her well I guess you expect me to wait another 2-3 weeks huh? She remarks “Nooo, thats not true. Maybe tomorrow, I’m just dirty and didn’t feel like taking a shower before bed.” So I’m thinking well f$ck is that all this is about? She hasn’t had a shower since the previous night, and she works a laid back job stocking papertowels and TP. I tell her that doesn’t matter cuz I’ve seen her far far worse and still thought she was beautiful, that I don’t want to wait until tomorrow because then the boy will be up, or she will be tired and fatigued after work, or the vomiting could rear its ugly head right before bed etc. Theres a million little things that could get in the way. So she is like, well if you don’t mind, I don’t i guess. Which I didn’t. Its not like she just came off her period and forgot to shower, or shat herself or something. I couldn’t smell a foul odor one coming from her, it was just her own self conscious behavior and super smell from being pregnant warding off her sex drive that she obviously displayed earlier.
She reiterates its my fault for going 9 days without sex, that If I want it I should just take it. I tell her I will remember that, but she needs to stop being so damned contradictory, as she has also warded off my advances for 9 days under the guise of I just don’t feel like it. This of course is ultimately what pisses me off. The contradictory flow of information coming from her mouth, and the feeling like I always have to twist her arm into having sex, only to find out she really needed it. I’ve told her on many occasions to stop that shit, its not ‘playing hard to get’ or teasing. Its just annoying and confusing. I suspect she just says those things because deep down she is just insecure or letting her own/society’s hangups interfere with her sex drive, and its easier to say: I’m playing hard to get.
During sex my shoulders get tired from missionary, and I flip her over on her side.
Her response: “This aint the Kamasutra ya know. You always gotta be weird.”
Mine: “Ya well I like missionary style, just not 24/7 365 days a year. There ARE other positions to enjoy, just let it go and roll with it, let yourself enjoy it.”
To which she did, i was able to give her a reacharound with my hand while screwing her from behind. She climaxed quickly to say the least.
women I swear…
But atleast, despite her bipolar flip flopping of what she thought she wanted, she ultimately did show signs of arousal. I think playing the arousal script during parts of the day warmed her up over a couple days. Gonna keep doing that, as we all know it typically takes women longer to get revved up, and my wife is no exception.
It almost seems like her old attitudes are at war on the surface with her new attitudes, right in front of my face. They will fall soon as the relentless march of subliminals will continue to wear them down. mwahhaha. lol =P
12/05/2013 at 3:08 pmI am not sure if you are doing this or not, but make sure you follow up the scripts with action. For example, lets say your wife tidies up. Without sounding condescending, make it really heart felt, say something like “I am lucky to have such a good wife like you.” or if you notice she changed something, jump all over that! “I noticed you changed XYZ. I like that.”
This reinforces the good attitudes, and also helps strengthen those portions of the script since now the conscience mind is noticing it as well as the subconscious.
WARNING: Dont get carried away and do it every 5 minutes either!
She might then think something is up!!Godd luck! Be patient!! Rome wasn’t built in a day, but it was destroyed that quickly.
12/05/2013 at 4:31 pmya i know. Positive reinforcement. Thats pretty much critical to all behavior/habit changes whether subliminal or not. I always reinforce good behavior with compliments and rewards. Its basic conditioning, like the food treat clicker they use for horses.
12/05/2013 at 5:56 pm@hotaceazn said:
WARNING: Dont get carried away and do it every 5 minutes either! She might then think something is up!!
Ya my wife isn’t quick to pick up on details. She is not inquisitive at all. Once when I started this endeavor she leaned over to look at something on my ipad and heard a faint squeaking. I acted like I had just heard it too, then went, “Man I hope my ipad isn’t going bad already! I’ve only had it a year or two..” She never brought it up again. In fact she doesn’t seem to notice the squeaking ever, and there have been a couple times her ear was right near the thing at full volume this month, when I myself can hear obvious squeaking. We have so many electronics here that make low lvl squeaking noise I think she is oblivious to it being out of the norm
12/05/2013 at 8:22 pmThe next training week starts on monday Dec. 9. I am going to tweak/prune my script a bit for release on that day.
Here is my proposed refinement.
-Removed blocks concerning topics that aren’t top priority that I can wait on.
-Changed one of the submission lines to giving up control, as submission is not a word that my wife uses often and she might have a hard time associating it with what I want it to mean.
-added some repetition for the blocks concerning submission, Oral sex, and breast play, to emphasize these specific topics. added some more lines also to the submission blocks to hammer this home as power struggle/talkback is really creeping back in and I need to curtail that.
-Lifted the first block about inner voice from Fizbin’s script, really liked the association of that better.
Good wife version 2.4 (Patch Date: 12/6/2013)
This is your inner voice.
You want to listen to my voice.
This is my inner voice.
These words are my thoughts.
I always listen to my thoughts.
I always listen to these words.
{{Pause=2}}
I want to be a good wife to Eldrin.
God wants me to be a good wife to Eldrin.
I need to be a good wife to Eldrin.
My family wants me to be a good wife to Eldrin.
Being a good wife to Eldrin makes me happy.
I love being a good wife to Eldrin.
{{Pause=1}}
I am a good wife.
A good wife makes her husband happy above all else.
I love making my husband happy.
Making Eldrin happy makes me the happiest.
I love Eldrin more than life.
{{Pause=1}}
I am a good wife.
A good wife trusts her husband in every way possible.
I feel free to trust Eldrin completely.
I love trusting Eldrin with everything.
{{Pause=1}}
I am a good wife.
A good wife tells her husband everything.
I am happy to tell Eldrin all my secrets.
I love being open with Eldrin about my thoughts and feelings.
I am always honest with Eldrin.
{{Pause=1}}
I am a good wife.
A good wife supports her husband during times of pain.
I enjoy being supportive of Eldrin.
I love making Eldrin feel better.
{{Pause=1}}
I am a good wife.
A good wife is completely sub missive.
I am a sub missive wife.
I am happy being sub missive.
I am a good wife.
A good wife submits to her husband’s desires.
I love submitting to Eldrin’s desires.
Giving up control to Eldrin makes me feel wonderful.
{{Pause=1}}
I am a good wife.
A good wife wants only her husband.
I love only my husband Eldrin.
I am only turned on by Eldrin.
I am a good wife.
A good wife is always turned on by her husband.
I am always hot and wet for Eldrin.
The sight of Eldrin makes me horny everyday.
{{Pause=1}}
I am a good wife.
A good wife loves having sex with her husband everyday.
I love having sex with Eldrin everyday.
I am happy to let Eldrin have sex with me everyday.
I love letting Eldrin do whatever he wants during sex.
{{Pause=1}}
I am a good wife.
A good wife acts naughty for her husband.
I love being Eldrin’s naughty girl.
I love doing naughty things just to please Eldrin.
{{Pause=1}}
I am a good wife.
A good wife is completely sub missive.
I am a sub missive wife.
I am happy being sub missive.
I am a good wife.
A good wife submits to her husband’s desires.
I love submitting to Eldrin’s desires.
Giving up control to Eldrin makes me feel wonderful.
{{Pause=1}}
I am a good wife.
A good wife loves to suck her husband’s c ock everyday.
I love sucking Eldrin’s c ock everyday.
I think Eldrin’s c ock tastes delicious.
I think Eldrin’s come, tastes delicious.
I love swallowing Eldrin’s come.
{{Pause=1}}
I am a good wife.
A good wife loves having her husband play with her tits.
I love letting Eldrin play with my tits.
I love sleeping topless with Eldrin.
{{Pause=1}}
I am a good wife.
A good wife loves to suck her husband’s c ock everyday.
I love sucking Eldrin’s c ock everyday.
I think Eldrin’s c ock tastes delicious.
I think Eldrin’s come, tastes delicious.
I love swallowing Eldrin’s come.
{{Pause=1}}
I am a good wife.
A good wife loves having her husband play with her tits.
I love letting Eldrin play with my tits.
I love sleeping topless with Eldrin.
{{Pause=1}}
I am a good wife.
A good wife does whatever is necessary to please her husband.
I am happy to do whatever is necessary to please Eldrin.
I love Eldrin so much.12/07/2013 at 9:49 pm12/6/2013:
Nothing much to report positive or negative. She didn’t seem to backslide in any fashion but didn’t seem to make any noticeable progress either.
One positive thing that has nothing to do with the subliminals , but affects their short term progress, is we found some acupressure bands that seem to really help with her all day nausea.
Patched in the refined script above last nite. I did bring up the fact that I was right about us having sex on 12/5. I had told her that If we just put it off just because she is feeling a little insecure about not having showered yet, something worse will get in the way.
Sure enough, tonite our son threw a fit and wouldn’t sleep in his room because he was scared, and had to sleep between us. I told my wife:
“Told you so.”
“Well I couldn’t have known he was going to do this!” she said
“Well that is exactly my point dear, that is why I said, lets not put this off, because something else will happen that will cause further delay.”
12/07/2013 at 9:52 pm12/7/2013:
I have constructed a very short Oral sledgehammer with less than 20 affirmations total. It runs about 1:30 in length. When my wife gets home at five I am going to introduce it alongside my normal Good wife script for about an hour, then play it exclusively until bedtime. At bedtime I will play my normal Good Wife script alone all night as I have been doing.
12/07/2013 at 10:15 pmI’m curious, for that oral script did you copy and paste it multiple times in audacity to make a longer subliminal or did you just leave it as 1:30. I think Qwerty does that way leaving it short at 1:30 without copying. To me that seems good if that’s your only file you’re looping, but if you put it in a multiple subliminal playlist, it seems better to copy it to extend the length timewise.
12/08/2013 at 12:27 amI did no copying. I was only going to play the Good wife script as a Homecoming type file for the first hour or so home, and as a Familiarity anchor to introduce the new script, then switch to the Oral script alone for the remainder of time before bed.
12/08/2013 at 12:29 amThe sledge was constructed using 3 different versions of the same script, with just the subject changed, from I, You, WifesName.
I had 2 voices speaking the 2nd person script, and 3 speaking the third person script. all at slightly different speeds. The first person script is my normal speed and pitch settings. In addition I followed qwertys advice and put the other voices about -7 or so amp lower than the first person voice so it stands out more.
12/08/2013 at 2:25 pm12/7/2013:
My wife has been acting a little emotionally cold and indifferent today. Whereas during a previous week she initiated contact and physical affection, today and the past few days she is content to sit on her side of the couch/bed and be absorbed in tv/facebook.
Some lashing out on my wifes part tonite after work. She got home at 30 minutes after. I have driven that same drive more times than I could possibly count and know at the most it takes 15 minutes. I told her that she needs to call me or text me next time so I know where shes at and whats going on. She immediately blows up and gets hostile/yelling. Of course I too start getting louder. She gives some half baked excuses about how she doesn’t speed etc which I blew off because I knew they were BS excuses. I told her simply, just text/call me next time so I’m not wondering.
Not but 2 hrs later, I come in with a snickers ice cream bar, ask her if she wants it, she says its the last one and asks if I’m gonna eat it. Seeing that she obviously doesn’t want me to eat it, but doesn’t want to eat it right now I start playfully joking around with her. I poke the candy bar at her belly gently and ask her if she wants me to just feed the baby directly, smiling the whole time.
She gets super mad and blows up and starts yelling then goes on a rant about me interrupting her show, which she can rewind or pause mind you. I tell her to calm down I’m just joking around and not to get so up in arms over something so silly.
Before bed I come across the couch to cuddle, and she just sits there, leaning away from me, with a vacant stare like a cold statue.
I bring this up, and her indifferent attitude in general when we go to bed. She tries usual tactics of avoidance, or changing the subject. I follow the path to the new subject, and then bounce right back to the main issue. After she sees that none of that works, she gets up and starts yelling and crying and talking in this little girl/kid like voice.
She tells me she can’t take this constant arguing That she can’t do anything right and shes a horrible wife a horrible mother and a horrible person and runs off into the living room to cry.
I follow her and ask her to calm down, and tell her to stop running away. She is exaggerating the everyday thing, we haven’t had a big argument for awhile, and that she needs to learn to accept criticism without blowing up and running away.
I tell her whether she likes it or not, her actions DO have an effect on my emotional state. She continues on with her normal behavior, trying to place all blame on me, on her pregnancy, on anything else. Usual avoidance. I tell her once again to calm down in a very calm tone. But realize she needs to get this little tantrum out of her system. She eventually does but it takes another hour or more.
During which we both have a serious but emotional discussion. Once she is calmed down, she actually tells me some things about the way she really feels, and thinks, instead of keeping it bottled up, and I do the same.
I tell her that we haven’t really talked like this for 12 years, as she has always run away and the next day we both pretended like none of it ever happened. She says something to the effect of how is it so healthy for people to talk about every little thing?
I told her that was obvious to everyone that keeping things bottled up in a relationship was bad, she knows this. She needs to stop shying away from struggle and stress and strife when she ought to push through it. Especially concerning relationship issues.
I confided some stuff in her as well about my fears, insecurities etc, and told her I need her alot. That nobody on this planet can build me up faster, or tear me down quicker than her, because she is a part of me.
I think the whole thing ended on a good note before we went to bed, and we seemed comfortable and pleasant by the time we went to bed.
My wife has a bad habit of exaggerating things in her mind, ie one argument is: “we’re arguing everyday”.
She also can’t let things go and move on/improve. She will harbor the negative thoughts and paint it all in the most negative light possible, rather than seeing the reality of it.
Strife and struggle is not inherently negative, but it is necessary. No good ever comes about without conflict. And if the end result is a worthwhile positive result then there is growth. My wife doesn’t see that bigger picture though, she focuses on the short term of “we are currently arguing and yelling, therefore things are bad, this is bad, everything is bad.”
She has always been like this, unable to handle even the smallest crisis, and its a behavior she needs to work on. I told her I would gladly help and support her in whatever she needed to accomplish, but she needs to talk to me and stop keeping things from me.
12/08/2013 at 6:23 pmSounds like progress actually. She did eventually engage towards the end, which considering she’s pregnant, is pretty remarkable.All the rest could easily be put down to her hormones from being pregnant. I think you handled the situation very well, better than I have done in my marriage for the most part.
12/08/2013 at 8:21 pmnear the end probably of the discussion I think I corralled it to a positive outcome. But I still need to work on not being so quick to anger/aggression as it is counter productive. I came out of a job just recently where that served me well. Working as the supervisor for several older men who were stubborn and rebellious to authority.
12/08/2013 at 8:24 pmI’m not the type of person that sees yelling/arguing as a bad thing as long as:
A) it doesn’t escalate to anything physical
B) the initial intensity quickly tapers off into a calm discussion with a positive outcome.
The yelling is a manifestation of the anger or other emotion you are feeling, and as long as you can reign it in and keep relative control I see no reason to think of it as negative, although it can be if you let it, but that is true of any emotion.
12/08/2013 at 8:33 pm12/8/2013:
Thanks to winter storm Celine Dion, or whatever the hell its named, we have been snowed/iced in today. This is a blessing and a curse.
Its a curse because we had a RPG game night planned, and haven’t been able to meet up for 2+ weeks.
Its a blessing because we are both stuck in the house together without any outside interference or obligations. This is a blessing because today my wife is very pleasant, and attentive. Things I talked to her about in our argument lastnite. She has repeatedly come into the dining room to show off or get help with some craft work she is doing, and to generally talk to me as if, get this, I am her husband and she wants to converse and spend time with me.
As Tonguester pointed out, some of her behavior may be attributed to pregnancy hormones, however much of it was established long before, only made more severe by potential nerves/mood swings experienced during pregnancy or feeling crappy.
Still as I pointed out to my wife, it really doesn’t take but negligble energy to show an interest in your husband, or cuddle with him, or sit at a table with him and do something other than watch TV 24/7. I’m not asking her to go lift weights with me or shovel snow. I have personally taken over all household chores.
She is napping now. I have placed the ipad on my dresser under some shirts. Being how dark it stays in our bedroom, it is very well hidden, but the speaker doesn’t have any cloth drapped over it. It is playing my oral sledgehammer script exclusively right now, as it has since she awoke. Last night it played by Good Wife script exclusively as usual through her 8-9 hours of sleep.
12/09/2013 at 2:27 pm12/8/2013:(later half of the day)
While sitting at the table in the dining room, she came in and started eating next to me. She also did something she hasn’t done in 3 months. She pulled out one of our game books and started thumbing through, showing interest in gaming again outside our bi weekly(that are supposed to be weekly) game nights.
She made some playful comments about beating me(can’t remember why). I told her that I would beat her up with my bat, but she would feel good about it, satisfaction guaranteed. Ya i know thats a really crappy, corny innuendo/joke but she smiled about it. I can’t always spew forth elegant description. I told her i was going to take later her tonite, and she smiled again.
Later on, we took a picture of my son in front of the xmas tree.
My son wanted to take a pic of daddy. I let him knowing full well he would take some poor ones, but he was having fun.
Came through later and my wife was laughing and blushing at the pics. I looked and they were only from the belly down to my legs. She says “Nice crotch shots”
i found it interesting that her mind/eyes would immediately focus on my manhood. I was not wearing anything that would visually stand out, just some plain shorts and a pliant shirt, loose fitting.
The only thing that came to mind was my oral sledge had been playin nonstop all day. It’s 1:30 long or so and was the only thing playing. While oral never took place, thoughts about my tool seemed to be at the forefront of her thoughts.
later at bed time she told me she was feeling queasy, to which I said oh well I guess I will make love to my wife another day. She had not been nauseous at all, all day long, so I dunno if this was a ploy to avoid sex I had already indicated was going to happen, or if it was just a big coincidence. But she was sweet and apologetic about it, so I let it go.
12/12/2013 at 2:13 amHey, I don’t know if this will make any difference (it sure never did for my wife) but there are studies out there that say that sexual acts lessen pregnancy related discomfort.
I’ve been telling my wife this for many years but she always dismissed it by saying something like, “all those researchers probably were men.” or “No woman would ever be part of a study like that; it must be fake/made-up.”
But, the gist is that when a woman has sex with the father of her child all sorts of things happen that make pregnancy easier. Some studies have reported that some women completely lose the nausea, bloating tiredness etc. Others only to a certain degree. But, pretty consistently, almost all of them had some positive effect.
Different sex acts had different levels of effect. Vaginal sex had a definite effect, an*l had a more profound effect and oral (only when swallowing) had the greatest most significant effect. There were several caveats about it though. It only seemed to work (especially the nausea thing) when the male was the biological father of the child. The sex had to be unprotected, that is actual contact had to be made by the female with the semen. Contact needed to be maintained for a considerable time (10-20+ mins in the case of Vaginal or an*l). The effects took several days to a week or more to begin showing signs with 2-6 weeks being full effect. The effect tapers off after a week or so absence of sex. The frequency of sex acts needs to be a minimum of ever 72 hours with best and quickest (those were the ones who got full effect in the shortest time) results being every 48 – 24 hours.
My experience with this is that when my wife gets an*l sex, I deliberately jump in the shower first, and take a good 1-15 mins. Then I left it warm for her and let her take a shower. The next day she ALWAYS, hums and sings while she does housework (another unusual occurrence) and I nearly always get breakfast cooked for me. She is nearly always smiling, submissive and affectionate to me and the kids. This is NOT my wife’s normal day-to-day behavior! Thing is, she doesn’t realize that it is happening. She thinks she’s always like that when she’s in that mood, and when she’s not in that mood, she thinks her life always sucks and she doesn’t act differently (happy and humming/singing) after an an*l sex night.
Also, she finally decided to try it with an*l sex (only because she still wouldn’t do a bj) on our last (7th) pregnancy. Though she had always been nearly incapacitated on the other 6 pregnancies, she had ZERO sickness, swelling, pains, mood swings, tiredness, etc. while we maintained the ever 48hrs schedule. She of course claimed that she had been pregnant so many times she was just used to it. But oddly enough, at about 7 months she decided to stop, because there was “no way to tell if that was what was really going on” and within a week got hit with everything. In typical fashion that was proof enough to her that the experiment was a failure and that it didn’t work. Female logic.
Back to the topic, though.
It seems this phenomenon is related to “micro-chimerism”, which, if any of you are geneticists or botanist or work for Monsanto (Round-Up) you might know something of this. It’s basically when, the genetic material of one organism (sometime of the same species but not always) is incorporated into and is preserved or remains present, either in a genetically active or inactive role in the tissues and fluids, sometimes even cells, of another organism. The research suggests that when a woman has sex with a man and has significant contact with the deposited genetic material, her body absorbs it and it remains inside her body, sometimes for decades. Some women in the study claimed no sexual contact for decades prior to the tests and had positive tests proving genetic material from a man present in their blood, brains and other tissues. Other tests were able to tell the woman had had multiple unprotected sex partners.
Also, and this happens even if she is not pregnant, certain immune factors from the male are found in the woman’s blood, brain and tissues. And for those of us entering into the more middle to late years, it seems to have similar suppressive responses for menopausal women, easing the transition.
From an evolutionary perspective this makes complete sense. Inoculating one organism so that it has less of an immune response to an invading, genetically dissimilar organism/parasite so that the child will be less likely to be rejected. Transferring the male parent’s immune factor to both the child and the mother to increase resistance to disease and sickness that could end or threaten the pregnancy. It would also make her more apt to stay with the chosen mate and be more caring and nurturing of his needs so he would be more likely to stay with her, even if younger, stronger more attractive women were vying for his attention.
If your wife is like mine. As logical as this all is, she won’t go for it or will dismiss it as just so much hooey made up to try to convince women to give in to a man’s sick desires.
The stuff is hard to find because some groups deem it to be demeaning to women and so when this stuff is publish in peer-review journals it is hidden and often claimed to un-corroborated, regardless of how much is actually out there. But the research is out there and I believe it is seriously true if for no other reason that I’ve experienced part of it myself.
12/12/2013 at 2:43 amYa I have read the swallowing article relieving morning sickness. My wife has no mind for logic or science so all this would get me is a weird look and a whatever.
Hell she even stopped taking her gummy prenatals for a fea days saying she wasn’t sure if she liked the taste anymore. Got her the gummy ones cuz she has issues swallowing pills, it’s all in her head I have always told her. So I told her I don’t give a damn if she dislikes the taste, this is our babies health, she does not get to play the inconvenience/taste/I’m too lazy to put forth effort card.
my wife is delusional when it comes to her work ethic, she portrays herself as a hard worker, but she is anything but. If it requires some effort and is even marginally inconvenient, it ain’t gonna take place.
still,
My ultimate goal remains the same of getting her to be an eager and frequent blower/swallower. my other scripts/affirmations have always been an attempt to support this goal via attitude change.
Unfortunately, even if we had wives that were very scientifically minded, they would use their intelligence to pick the study apart. I really believe these behaviors are about negative perceptions that have been conditioned from society and life experiences.
12/12/2013 at 3:31 amI’m right with you man. I do blame society.
If you look at celebrities and politicians with high approval ratings, most of them are total a-holes in general that put on a happy face for pictures and interviews but are also generally completely users of women.
Think Bubba Clinton.
then there are churches that publically encourage and teach bible doctrines of marriage but then go and emphasize a twisted version of “equality” that basically makes a man a prisoner and chattel in his own home. Many of them preach that a man should be head of the home but if you dig to their practices, the LEADERS of those churches ask to be followed unquestioningly but the women are actually encouraged to question their husbands. That’s not even to mention how often you ear about pastor after pastor getting busted for adultery. Sometimes even really famous ones.
Seems as if the whole of society makes regular women hate and mistrust their “regular” men and manipulates societal norms into those same women idolizing the men who are truly the abusers.
basically you have a cadre of men who control the rest of us men and women by making women believe we are evil and trying to mistreat all women so they just mistrust us. If they can get husband and wife to fight and disagree about even the basics of love and affection, they can control us in so much more because we get lost in our own home problems.
I also think that that ultimate giving act of blow/swallow, especially if it were done spontaneously and with enthusiasm, would help much. If you’ve ever dug into the physiological results, there’s a whole effects that cascade through the female body. These are some freaky powerful chems that wash around the body and brain making some serious connections at the chemical/emotional level. It makes them want to be submissive, and loving, and faithful and nurturing.
12/12/2013 at 4:05 pm12/9/2013:
So I’ve changed my scripts up. Same ideas, My happiness, submission, and oral.
I split them into 3 seperate scripts. Widdled the happiness and submission ones down to about less than 15 affirmations, with 2 second pause between statements.
The third oral one, which is the longshot one, I did more from inspiration of qwerty’s style. Ie. I led her from a more current, palatable line of thinking, to what I want from her by the end of the script. Thus this script is longer. I also turned this script into a Sledgehammer.
I extended the length with copy paste in Audacity so that each script repeats for about 10 ish minutes to give some more repetition before switching topics. I had discussed this in another thread with tap and fizbin, but didn’t realize most scripts were like this when converted to mp3’s.
12/12/2013 at 7:48 pmEldrin81
Have you tried using the repeat function under effect to copy script? I use it often rather then copy and paste, especially when combining several MP3 files into one MP3 file to play on an old droid phone hooked to speakers.
Since this is my first post since finding and joining this great site six week ago (I have been looking for several years for this a place like this); I’ll start a journal soon of my adventure in changing my wife’s attitude, since it is exactly like those posted here almost word for word.
12/12/2013 at 10:35 pmYa I just looked at that repeat function. Thanx for the tip, thats a million times easier. it even estimates the final length.
I highly recommend keeping a journal. It keeps you accountable. It lets other people give you new perspective. It lets you see yourself where you have been, and notice patterns you might not without documentation.
12/12/2013 at 11:01 pmIt will be interesting to compare progress notes Airwolf(Loved that show as a kid btw) since we both started the same week.
12/13/2013 at 1:23 pm12/12/13:
So last night when my wife got home, I played the new subs. I had recoded them in a carrier freq of 90 hz after talking to qwerty in another thread to see if this freq has some euphoric effect on her.
These played for 2 hrs before bedtime. At bed time(The Ipad was sitting at its usual spot a couple feet from her ear) I brought up the lack of sex again, since its been over a week. I kind of berated her a bit but didn’t yell or anything, talking in a calm voice.
Told her that sex is an important part of the marriage, and not some whimsical thing that some folk just do.
She said something about not being a teenager anymore, and I asked her if she remembers just a few months ago when we were doing it 2 times a week or more, not once every other.
She mentioned something about doing it for me, and I said surely that she did not have sex with me out of pure obligation everytime, to which she said I was right.
She said that she didn’t see sex as the most important part of marriage, and I agreed, but I said that doesn’t mean it isn’t still a big piece, and right now its not even on the slate at all.
During this whole time she was remarkably calm. If you have read my journal, or had known my wife, in the past she has started getting hostile, yelling, and crying and running away at this point, or using tactics to side step owning her actions during coversation, or shift blame to me, or whatever.
She did none of this, but listened to what I had to say, expressed some stuff back, to which I disagreed, but she remained calm the whole time.
Then she just reaches down and pulls her panties off, and lays there waiting for me. She seemed mildly annoyed at first, like lets get this over with, but only slightly, as she was still pretty calm. I kissed her some and went down on her, that disappeared. She got close to orgasm, and I decided to head up for some actual sex.
Unfortunately she lost her orgasm, it happens to her from time to time, I don’t like it, but I accept that it happens. She said she didn’t want to force it, and told me to go ahead, she just wanted to make me happy.
trying to use associate this with language in my scripts, I told her I was very happy right now, and that sex made me very happy. She told me “thats good, thats my goal.”
We went to sleep shortly after, and she was apologetic about not being able to orgasm, and I told her it was ok, don’t try harder, just let it go and let it happen, let ME be the one to try harder next time.
She was very affectionate and wanted to snuggle up as well.
fairly good night.
12/13/2013 at 9:51 pm12/13/13:
Ah friday the 13th. that day so demonized for being unlucky.
Well. I haven’t been lucky, but I haven’t been unlucky either.
Played the scripts most of the morning, then switched for the afternoon for 3 hours exclusively to a breast play script before she went to work.
One thing I have noticed today. She did get annoyed with our son about something, but it dissipated rather quickly.
She seems in a playful joking mood very much today.
Other than that, nothing to report so far. I did grab her breasts a couple times, she didn’t seem to mind.
She texted me just now, about wanting some sweet frog yogurt, and was playful and joking about it.
We will see how tonite goes.
Update:
Took my wife some Cake batter sweet frog with nerds topping. Spent some time with her on her meal break. She was all smiles even though our son was being super hyper and rambunctious. On the way back from her meal break, she did something she hasn’t done in like 2-3 months.
She reached down and gave my butt a good unsolicited squeeze.
Update 2:
That nite after work she got home. She still seemed to readily smile and laugh. Big smiles too. She seemed more jolly. I asked if she was feeling better, she floored me with “No, I feel like crap. I have all day” So apparently, I’m hoping there is something to this frequency that enhances ones ability to remain calm, and deal with stress, remain somewhat upbeat. As my wife is feeling like crap, yet doesn’t seem to show it. She had me fooled that she was actually feeling awesome. My wife is the type to moan and whine over every little injury no matter how small, and flip out over the smallest impasse or crisis. So maybe there is really something to this 90hz thing after all.
12/13/2013 at 10:03 pmas part of this test with the 90hz, I did tweak my scripts a bit that night. I decided to forgo the long term oral script. I really like that script, but I think I still have other walls to knock down, and other foundation to lay. Sure I could leave that playing by itself for months, and never see any signs of progress, until finally one day it sunk in. But lets face it, I’m not gonna go for months with no signs of progress at all or nothing to hold me over.
So instead I decided that I just need to lay the foundation and pave the way for that script by focusing on her attitudes first.
My other two scripts are remaining in place as they have been for almost a week and I already am seeing a little bit in terms of submission towards giving me sex when I prompt her. I have added a couple lines to each though.
1)Love & Happiness through sex.
I can show my love best with sex.
2)Sexually Sub missive
I let down all barriers when Eldrin wants sex.
Giving Eldrin sex shows my submission.
3) Breast Play
#3 is a more palatable act that she is likely to take to more quickly, satisfying my need for seeing some form of short term progress. Plus I like her breasts so much. And playing with and exposing the girls can lead to sex in and of itself.
Those were in place last nite, when she was so calm and just took her underwear off after our calm discussion.
That little act was an act of submission to my desires, so it seems like the submissive and happiness part are poking through. These attitudes can lead to kinky stuff in and of themselves because of the way I had them worded.
12/14/2013 at 12:56 amIn a month or two(hopefully), once I am satisfied that my current scripts have sunk in, and my wife is consistently displaying a desire to make me happy, and submit to me, then I want to switch to the following script. It would at that point be played either by itself, or with one other short script.
I think this shorter, improved script successfully builds upon the ideas of love, desire to make me happy, and submission, to fuel the need to perform oral.
Those initial affirmations can also act as a maintenance at that point in time as well towards those behaviors.
The latter parts of the script address other issues she has always used as why she dislikes it, which are probably the same for most women. It tastes bad, she isn’t comfortable, Her skills are horrible, its weird or deviant behavior, etc.I’m open to ideas on how to refine, combine or shorten this script without losing any of the meaning it currently has. I have got bare minimum of 30 days or so before this is going to be installed, so that gives me plenty of time to fiddle with it and get it perfect. Please note that I use the Pause insertions function of Textaloud to automatically insert brief pauses between sentences.
I love Eldrin so much.
My love for Eldrin is the best thing in my life.
I want to make Eldrin happy because I love him.
Making Eldrin happy pleases me the most.
Making Eldrin happy is my top priority.
I know submitting to Eldrin makes him happy.
Submitting means giving in to all of Eldrin’s desires.
I enjoy giving up all control to Eldrin.
I let go of all restraint towards sex.
I show my submission and love by sucking Eldrin’s d ick.
I make Eldrin the happiest by sucking his d ick.
I enjoy sucking Eldrin’s d ick everyday.
I love the taste of Eldrin’s d ick.
Eldrin’s come tastes so good.
I happily swallow all of Eldrin’s come.
Blow jobs are natural and normal.
Every girl sucks their man’s d ick.
I can suck Eldrin’s c ock better than anyone.
My blow job skills are amazing.
I am always rewarded for sucking Eldrin’s d ick.
I feel like a great wife after sucking Eldrin’s d ick.
Sucking Eldrin’s d ick turns me on so much.
Sucking Eldrin’s d ick can lead to fucking.
I want to suck Eldrin’s d ick right now.
I need to suck Eldrin’s d ick right now.
I am going to suck Eldrin’s d ick right now.12/14/2013 at 12:36 pmThis reminds me of something I have seen in a few of your scripts. I have a real concern with affirmations of loving something (or someone) “more than life”. Unless that is an idiom she already uses on a regular basis, I could foresee it producing lots of strange side-effects down the road. Especially if the object of her affection becomes unavailable.
The other thing is the “right now” imperatives. I might consider those for a “seduction” type file, that you play when you want her specifically in the mood. In a constant background loop, though, I think it might become the source of at least some frustration (if not actual side effects) if there is no opportunity to act on the imperatives.
12/14/2013 at 1:14 pmI can see your point on the more than life thing. I certainly don’t want to risk my wife thinking about self harm or anything if I was away on an extended trip. Will try rewording that.
as far as the right now stuff, it could have that effect. But for my wife I see no evidence of it. Will keep an eye out for it though should she actually perform such acts with any regularity. Rather it is supposed to be a call to action and sense of urgency for a wife defined by Inaction in most of her life.
of course when those I see my scripts coming to fruition consistently, those statements will likely be pruned from the script anyway.
12/16/2013 at 2:09 pmSo lastnite was a doozy. And my sneaking suspicions were confirmed. My wife’s brother, is the main cause of many of her mental hangups and issues.
He has taken a very toxic route now. My wife showed me a conversation where he basically tried to play the good guy, and accused me of controlling her, and even typing for her and telling her what to say in the convo to him.
This man has bashed and put down his sister all his life, leaving her with a complex about accepting any form of criticism in a positive manner, always running away, and believing that avoiding confrontation is a good thing.
All because He implied my wife looked like a slut in her halloween costume, on my Facebook. To which I jumped to her defense, and told him to stop transferring his self hatred to his sister. He finally after almost 2 months gave her a half baked apology in one sentence, on facebook, after she argued with him for 1hr+.
This man has manipulated and demeaned, and abandoned women all his life, and he honed his skills on his sister.
He left his job in a big city, volunatrily because he didn’t like it, and left his daughter and baby momma hanging, to come back to the east coast, then send them only 50 dollars once in awhile, when prompted.
He even threatened to punch her in the teeth in a restauraunt once, but apparently i’m the only one that heard that.
12/17/2013 at 7:17 pmUpdate:
After much drama introduced by her brother and cousin, who tried to make me out to be some abusive vile creature, I watched my wife be stronger than she has ever been. She did cry, and lash out a bit at me, but it was short lived. We had a discussion about it last nite that started off a bit as a yelling match but quickly dissolved into a calm discussion about our feelings. I felt very positive and good about it afterwards and thanked her for talking to me.
She showed me the facebook conversation in which two of her ‘family’ members tried to basically gang up on her, and bash me relentlessly. She defended every single comment and shot down every single accusation. I told her I was proud of her for defending me, but next time don’t try to hide the accusations or conversations from me as I didn’t need to be coddled. I just need her to have my back, and see it plainlly that she does. I also told her that despite her need to defend me, the next time it would be best to simply distance and ignore them, as their game is to draw her into a lopsided argument she cannot win in order to break down her armor and poison her thoughts.
I also reminded her of our marriage vows, that we vowed to put each other first above family or friends or the rest of the world, that is what marriage is about, and that her brother simply didn’t know any better because he has never been married, nor been in a relationship with a woman for longer than 4-5 years.
12/17/2013 at 11:30 pmSorry to hear about the attacks, but congratulations on the way both of you handled the situation!
12/17/2013 at 11:54 pmMaybe I’m imagining things, but I really think this 90hz frequency has a positive effect on my wife’s mood and ability to handle stress. Granted these attacks could have never been fully mitigated by a simple mood enhancing frequency, but she seemed to better handle herself, and her blowups went away remarkably quickly. Also her adamant defense of every accusation seems to confirm that my Happiness script is having some effect. The whole reason she hid the conversation from me to begin with, was to spare me the burden, because she knew it would upset me. While I am never happy about my wife hiding things from me, the reason she did so, was further evidence in my mind this script is having the desired effect.
12/17/2013 at 11:59 pmI am going to test out tonite if my submission script is having any effect. Its been in place since the 9th, and on the 90hz frequency (only the frequency was changed) since the 12th. Its been about a week or so since we had sex, frankly I wasn’t up for it myself so I never approached her on it. I want to see how much resistance if any she puts up when I approach her on it, and when we do have sex, how much resistance/backtalk she gives me on doing something other than missionary.
12/18/2013 at 1:46 amWe’ll all be in your corner!
Not, literally of course; that’s probably a little kinkier than you’re planning on. [Image Can Not Be Found]
Luck to ya’.
I’m finding the prospect of the 90hz experiments intriguing. Has anyone coupled those with the normal freqs most of us are using? I mean in the same file? Either the same message playing at both the high and the low frequencies or possibly doubling up with two separate scripts, one playing at the higher and one at the lower?
12/18/2013 at 2:23 amI dunno if mixing two tracks at two different carrier freq would be of any benefit whatsoever. Probably not. Ya. To be honest I am expecting some resistance. I grabbed her ass on the way to work, and I playfully told her I was gonna take her tonite, and she said in a plain tone, no. I told her playfully I wasn’t taking no for an answer without a really good reason, and she said plainly, you better. There didn’t seem to be alot of forcefullness behind the words, and they might have been joking, but its hard to tell because she didn’t put alot of emotion behind them.
Dunno if she is trying to reassert herself a bit or what, but I’m not gonna let it slide without a valid physical reason. She may just be feeling a bit dominant because she fended off her siblings by herself, and during our conversation I showed my weaker more emotional side. Women are funny like that, they want to see that vulnerability in you, but then their minds can focus on it and try to use it to their advantange.
However, I’m not gonna be some beta male lap dog to sit around and beg and plead for once a week sex. I just have to assert myself without getting into a yelling match.
Hopefully the return of her co worker will have a positive effect. Her co worker is very young, flirty, and promiscuous, and they end up talking about sex more often than not when she is around.
12/18/2013 at 8:38 pm12/18:
well no sex last nite. Not because of anything we could control. My wife went most of the day without morning sickness symptoms only to come home and violently throw up for about 10 minutes.
Of course I’m not some brutal jerk wad, so I didn’t go all alpha male on her and demand/expect sex. Still it was frustrating, and my wife saw my frustration despite attempts to hide it. She came to bed very apologetic. I asked her what she was apologizing for and she said “I know you wanted some ass tonite, i’m sorry”
I told her it wasn’t her fault and couldn’t be helped, but did bring up the incident from earlier in the day where she flat out said no. I told her in firm but polite tone I was not going to beg and plead for once a week sex, and that unless she had a good physical reason, like she did right now, that I didn’t want to hear her refuse my sexual advances anymore, that it was insulting and unfair to me and i wasn’t going to put up with it, except in cases like tonite where she was obviously physically afflicted or had a really good reason to be.
She honestly did not remember saying no, or you better earlier that day however. She asked if she had just been joking about it. I told her that I did not know, I needed her to be frank with what she told me. Due to her feeling fatigued, she often speaks in a monotone voice with little in the way of facial expression or body language, and that I had nothing to go on to determine if she was joking or being serious, so she needed to be straightforward with what she says, otherwise I will be mislead and misinformed and it will cause issues. She said ok, and that she was sorry for hurting my feelings or confusing me.
We then cuddled a bit, and I playfully clasped her breast. She playfully pulled it away saying they were her breasts, then rolled over, shoved her butt as close as she could to my crotch, and let my hand land back firmly over her breast. I told her she would have to make it up to me in the morning or the next evening if she wasn’t vomiting, and she said she was ok with that.
This morning/afternoon of 12/18
She seemed relatively happy, despite her feeling a bit bad from last nites episode. I mistakenly thought she was feeling way better than she actually was, as she has been handling stress a bit better. She talked and joked about sex several times without me bringing it up, and even fixated for a short time on a picture going around facebook called Soap Fetish, where all the soaps have penises stamped on them, or are shaped like a large penis. She made sure to show me this, so I know sex is indeed on her mind. This is a good thing because not but a month ago and back towards october and before, she didn’t even want sex, and seemed to think of it like some chore she had to do for me once in awhile. Now her mind seems to be back to a point where she genuinly wants/desires me, but her pregnancy woes are getting in her way.
We played a boardgame together for the first time since september. it was a competitive one, and she did like she always does, I beat her, and she garnered a defeated attitude halfway through, saying I had already won, then acted like a spoiled child, and sore loser. She seemed upset that I wouldn’t ‘let’ her win, but this is a lesson I continue to try to teach her, for her own good, that she needs to stop whining and start treating failures like roadbumps instead of actual losses, and course correct along the way towards goals/dreams. Still however, not but 60 seconds after the little tantrum, she was back to her cheery self as if nothing had happened. No grudges or childish behavior lingered around, and she sat down to watch a xmas movie, and talk to me normally, with her mind randomly bouncing back towards sex.
12/19/2013 at 1:36 pm12/19:
Nothing from her last nite. She went from being apologetic and sweet about her inability to provide me with “ass” on the nite of 12/17, to just not giving a crap last nite. She got home, and went to bed, stayed on her side of the bed, and only got up long enough to complain that the soap i used to wash my hands stunk. To which I informed her that everything stinks to her right now, and I’ve tried every bodywash/soap/deodorant to no avail, she knows this. Still she said I should have used something else, but nothing else stinks any less, even the things that claim to be of a light scent.
So I got up and went to the dining room for a little bit until she fell asleep. She gets up 5-10 minutes later and comes in there yelling at me to come to bed, and to stop taking it so personal. I asked her why SHE was taking it so personal, that I just came in here out of consideration towards her. I can’t remove the smell from my body, and she can’t stand it, can smell it 10 ft away, so I put some distance between us. She stomped off back to the bedroom and fell asleep within 10 minutes, and I came back in and went to sleep to. Just as I had planned to do the entire time.
She completely forgot about our deal from the previous day, about making it up to me, and just rolled over and went to sleep, so needless to say, I went to sleep highly frustrated, but just wanted to get some sleep if there was to be no reason not to.
Her friend continues to flirt heavily and pick on me playfully right in front of her when I visit her at work. Kept picking on me and telling my wife that I was looking at her ass, though she says it playfully, not with overtones of disdain. Its both a nice comfort and a painful reminder of how my wife USED to be. The simple flirtatious back and forth we used to have like that, was utterly absent yesterday, and is rarely there ever.
In the grander scheme of things, I would hope this can be chalked up to mood swings/pregnancy hormones, or simple lashing out of her old behaviors in their last throws against the subliminals. Still that fact doesn’t do anything to ease my frustration and feelings of Jadedness right now.
12/19/2013 at 2:05 pmHere is the next iteration of my oral script for the next cycle, hopefully mid January, early February. Again whenever I feel like my current subs have sunk in and are consistent, this script will take their place as the sole script, using feelings of love, submission, and desire to make me happy, to fuel oral sex. Those affirmations will also hopefully act as maintenance for said behaviors.
I love Eldrin so much.
I often show my love by sucking Eldrin’s d ick.
I know sucking Eldrin’s d ick makes him the happiest.
I enjoy showing my love by making Eldrin very happy.
Making Eldrin happy pleases me the most.
Eldrin’s happiness is my top priority.
I often make Eldrin happy by sucking his d ick.
I love sucking Eldrin’s d ick everyday
Sucking Eldrin’s d ick makes me very happy.
I think Eldrin’s come tastes delicious.
I happily swallow Eldrin’s come every time.
Sucking Eldrin’s d ick is the best way to show my submission.
I love submitting completely to Eldrin.
I know submission means giving in to all Eldrin’s desires.
I love being dominated by Eldrin.
I want to suck Eldrin’s d ick right now.
I need to suck Eldrin’s d ick right now.
I am going to suck Eldrin’s d ick right now.12/20/2013 at 2:07 amFrom your journal entries, your wife appears to be acting like the dominant or one who runs the relationship. She gets mad at you and tells you to go to sleep, tells you when you’ll have sex, and conveniently forgets promises she makes.
While her being pregnant could possibly be a reason for her not wanting sex, I think you need a subliminal dedicated to getting her to obey you and be submissive to you. Only then can you knock out that kind of behavior and gain power back in the relationship.
12/20/2013 at 2:43 amYou are right Tap. And I do. I have had a submissive script in place since the 9th.
My custom His Happiness type script, one about submission and giving into my desires/giving up control, and the third one is just a sexual one breast play.
Each one of these scripts is straight first person script with about 20 lines or less each. Each one was extended in audacity to about 10-12 minutes, and affirmations each have a 1 second pause between. I just gotta wait it out for about 30-60 days while this crap takes hold.
I recognized fairly early in november that she needed to be more submissive. She has always been strong headed, and 12 years ago, I was more timid, but grew more aggressive and dominant over time, especially after I started lifting and learning what it is to be a real man. Ever since then it has been constant power struggle and war. She has shown a submissive side before getting into the subliminal thing, so I know its lurking in there, and quite frankly, its that sweet caring girl I fell in love with.So after my october fiddling I dug in and put in those 3 short scripts.
I think alot of her recent dominant behavior is just due to what I’ve seen in everyone elses threads of lash outs that seem to be the result of old behaviors at war with the new. Also pregnancy mood swings cannot be discounted here.
I’ve also been listening to a custom alpha male track I made for myself. The thing about it is, I have had to ramp up my dominance lately, as she has not kept up her promises, and frankly, “I’m tired’ is a piss poor excuse for once a week sex. I think my jaded pissed off feelings play well into a nice “I’m done taking your shit” attitude I’ve developed in the last couple days. For certain theres going to be some turmoil ahead, I just have to be patient, and keep nudging.
To be honest, I should have just taken her the other nite, despite the throwing up. She acted like she was still somewhat in a mindframe to oblige me. That nite she was very sweet and submissive. Not so much since then, which may be her subconscious recognizing the backdown on my part and running with it.
Gonna talk to her again tonite, and tell her my expectations, and try not to get into a yelling match, but frankly, at this point, if she won’t meet me partway, I don’t give a damn about resorting to yelling.
On the flip side there is this nice little animated film she wants to see in the theater. She has hinted at wanting to see it, and I’ve just been kind of like “oh yeah?” in a ho hum, I don’t give a care kind of way. It will be a perfect reward to bring up, if she submits and gives me what I want. I just have to remember to spring it on her, if she is a really good girl.
12/20/2013 at 2:59 amYour customs sound pretty good. You could try playing just one or two subliminals max a night.
For my wife, when I just play one subliminal the whole night, she really responds to whatever I played. For example, if I just play the sex one, she’s in the mood and enjoys sex the next day. If I don’t play my submissive one a few days, I’ve noticed she gets a bit bitchy with me and talks back more. When that happens, I play my submissive one again all night or add it in with another one and she calms right back down.
It’s why I feel that to keep sustained results, the subject needs exposure every once in awhile to whatever subliminals you have been playing. A good way to see if your subliminal would work, is to play one of your subliminals during the night and all day nonstop for at least a week. If you don’t see any change, it’s possible your custom is not an effective of one, whether it be by how you made it or your script is not written well.
12/20/2013 at 3:07 am12/19 (Today):
So far today my wife was fairly pleasant. I actually played very short arousal script during the day to try to get her in the mood. I think it had an effect on me as well, because my arousal shot up to animalistic levels, like I just wanted to start biting and gnawing at her. She came across the couch without being asked to cuddle up next to me, and playfully caressed my foot with hers for about an hour.
She asked me if I could scratch her back, and partially I think due to the arousal script playing in the background also having an effect on me, I started giving her back a good rub down, very firmly, hoisting the backside of her shirt up over her shoulders.
I got down to her little ‘tramp stamp’ which I’ve always found sexy as hell, and start rubbing around the parts of her hips I usually grab onto when I’m banging her doggy style, and I tell you I almost turned into an animal. I was rubbing her and licking my lips and just wanted to gnaw and lick the hell out of her, and she seemed to be enjoying it. Unfortunately, our 3 yr old was standing with his back to us watching netflix, so none of that could be had. I did reach around and grab her breast and gave it a good firm squeeze. She slapped my hand away quickly, BUT turned around and gave me a big grin as well, to which I returned the grin.
Unfortunately when work came around, bitch girl came out. She realized she had but 20 minutes to make it to work, I calmly tried to assure her that there was plenty of time for her to get there without being late, we only live 3 miles away. She gave me this snotty tone like she was yelling at our son, and said that it was the afternoon. I told her that was no reason to yell and not to talk to me like some dog.
Then not but 10 minutes later I left the house to head to the gym. I timed myself, even though i’ve made the trip a dozen times, and did just the speed limit. Took me 12 minutes with 5pm traffic to get to her workplace and park. I texted her if she got there on time and she said yes with a couple minutes to spare, at which I let her have it. I told her she just proved me right, and that her workplace gives her a 10 minute grace period anyway, so there was no cause to snap at me. I finished going to the gym.
Went to her job to visit her and try to get some pictures done up for xmas. She was a little annoyed at her co worker, but seemed pleasant enough with me. Before I left, i whistled at her, because she was wearing some tight stretchy jeans that fit her butt well. She gave me a dirty look and shook her head. I will have to call her out on this when she gets home, but she may have thought I was whistling at her co worker. We shall see.
Either way she is giving me sex tonite, I don’t care if she is throwing up, I will mount her from behind and hold her hair if need be. There are not going to be any excuses, and if she throws up any resistance I will tell her to just stop. I may try out some language from the scripts and just tell her to submit if she attempts to throw any fit. Though she seems to surprise me. Just when I am expecting a helll storm of resistance she acts all sweet and submissive.
It always seems like a good idea to actually use some of the wording from the scripts from time to time in real conversation.
12/20/2013 at 2:20 pm12/19: night time update
Well everything went smoothly. I called my wife out on the dirty look she gave me for whistling at her. She said she didn’t remember me whistling at her, nor giving me a dirty look. I told her well you did and it was insulting and off putting. She said sorry I don’t remember. I let it go.
I started in on an arousal script for a bit trying to get her in the mood, followed by my normal His Happiness and submissive scripts. This all played for about 2 hrs.
She again came over to my side of the couch to get close to me. Again she caressed her feet against mine. Breast grabs once again got slapped away, but with a big grin on her face.
Bed time came and I reached down and rubbed her through her pants. She said “its sleepy time” but in a ho hum kinda way. I told her no its lovin time, then sleep. She smiled and never said another word as I pulled off her pants.
For easier access/quicker foreplay, and because I enjoy it, I immediately went down on her. She started bucking and gyrating her hips pretty wild and holding the back of my head so I knew she was enjoying it. Was also tickling her G spot with my finger. I asked her if she wanted some dick, she said no…this feels so good. I told her that was ok but she owed me. She needed to return the favor. She said ok, but not right now, I’m afraid I will gag and you know that makes me throw up. I told her I would let it slide this time but when her nausea went away I expected payment of a good blow job. She said ok. Its a miracle she even entertains the thought now a days. Before it was always flat out no, I’m not doin that, I don’t want to.
She was compliant in bed, did whatever position I wanted without complaint or the usual “your being weird” comments. It may have helped that my nightly playlist including my Happiness and Submission scripts were playing nearby.
12/20/2013 at 5:24 pmCongratulations!
There seems to be some mixed reviews as to whether subs work in real-time.
The evidence “for” is stuff like my wife getting naked under the covers on first exposure to my mega script, and reputed success of the PSE seduction files. So, this could count also in that category.
The evidence against is the typically long-term horizon that most scripts require before seeing any change in behavior.
I think we need more “controlled” experimentation and documentation on the kinds of things that work real-time, and the kinds that are chronic builders.
12/20/2013 at 5:59 pmAs to the real time thing, I think they can and do. I think its a matter of if the script is something she is against, how well it is supported by the main scripts you play everyday, and the scripts effectiveness and how well it’s written. Certainly having a brief effective script that can repeat an enormous amount in one day is helpful.
this is what I think happened. My happiness and submission scripts are seeing good effects. I have not stopped playing them all night, and most or all day everyday. There is language in both about daily sex. Giving me daily sex to make me the happiest, or showing her submission by ‘giving in’ to daily sex. letting down barriers towards sex.
all those ideas now wriggled into her brain and having some effect are conducive to arousal.
my arousal script was freshly written. It was very brief and to the point. It used some imagery about my body, my smell turning her on, and wanting my hands all over her. it used an echo format. I like these because it is like increasing repetition of the same statements within the same time frame. It ran about 2 minutes in length. I started with my two normal scripts, and then played arousal the rest of the day. Arousal is much simpler I think than giving sex more frequently. You are only dealing with the hear and now, and only need to get her thinking about sexual thoughts and images. If your other scripts are conducive to it I think arousal scripts work in real time. I doubt other types of scripts would though.
12/20/2013 at 7:06 pmThere seems to be a point for each of our wives where the subliminal start to take off. After that point it is as if all future subliminals have an easier time of doing their job. Could the success of our initial subliminals make it easier for her brain to accept new ones?
12/21/2013 at 12:48 am
@eldrin81 said:
There seems to be a point for each of our wives where the subliminal start to take off. After that point it is as if all future subliminals have an easier time of doing their job. Could the success of our initial subliminals make it easier for her brain to accept new ones?Well, that is the premise of the Converter files. Getting her accustomed to (even addicted to) accepting the thoughts by starting with non-threatening ideas and purely self-referential feelings of comfort from hearing the voice(s).
12/21/2013 at 2:20 amTrue, forgot about those. I think most of us newbies simply bypass those due to impatience. I read somewhere here that the recommendation used to be to play those files for 2 weeks alone before doing anything else?
12/21/2013 at 3:13 am@Tap1 said:
Your customs sound pretty good. You could try playing just one or two subliminals max a night.For my wife, when I just play one subliminal the whole night, she really responds to whatever I played. For example, if I just play the sex one, she’s in the mood and enjoys sex the next day. If I don’t play my submissive one a few days, I’ve noticed she gets a bit bitchy with me and talks back more. When that happens, I play my submissive one again all night or add it in with another one and she calms right back down.
It’s why I feel that to keep sustained results, the subject needs exposure every once in awhile to whatever subliminals you have been playing. A good way to see if your subliminal would work, is to play one of your subliminals during the night and all day nonstop for at least a week. If you don’t see any change, it’s possible your custom is not an effective of one, whether it be by how you made it or your script is not written well.
Sounds like what you are doing is an extension of making a script repeat for 10 minutes before switching to another script/topic. Instead you are simply ‘extending’ the script to 24 hours or however long she is around the device, before switching to another one.
I haven’t posted the breast play script. Its a bit different. Like my arousal script it alternates between a first person version of the statement, and a second person version of the statement. Mostly just to experiment and see if I can garner any effects on whether it is more productive for my particular wife.
I did that in the arousal script, and used echo, it seemed to fill her with sexual thoughts from what subtle things i noticed the other night. If you sit and listen to such a script, it is practically repeating every statement twice, except only the subject (I, You) is changed. The extra repetition of the rest 95% of the affirmation and the repetition garnered from the echo’s may have helped with the arousal script. that and it was short.
On a side note I thought one could use echo to try to make a sledgehammer type script alternating first second third person versions of each statement, and then having a 3 second pause. You could change the pitch or voice In textaloud script itself with the right tags. The echoes would make it sound like there were even more people in the room talking about if you did it right, but not so much talking over one another.
12/21/2013 at 4:11 pm12/20:
Tweaked my scripts just a bit. Then played just the My Happiness one, and Sexually submissive one all night, just those two.
Finished refining my Oral script to a nice short and sweet version. I will play it exclusively tonite this evening. It has a few lines at the beginning that talk briefly about loving me, wanting to make me happy, and wanting to submit to me, so those are nice little exposures to the previous topics, but it also uses those ideas as reasons to give oral.
My Happiness:
I love only my husband Eldrin.
My heart is filled with love for Eldrin.
I love Eldrin more than life.
Making Eldrin happy shows my love for him.
I only live to make my husband happy.
I want to make Eldrin happy most of all.
Making Eldrin happy is my top priority.
Making Eldrin happy fills me with joy.
I enjoy making Eldrin happy every day.
I know sex makes Eldrin the happiest.
I know being sexually naughty makes Eldrin happy. (New statement)
I love being sexually naughty for Eldrin.
I love giving Eldrin sex every day.
I can show my love best with naughty sex. (Added the word naughty)
I want to make Eldrin happy right now.
I need to make Eldrin happy right now.
I am going to make Eldrin happy right now.The last 3 statements were not in my original posting of this script, however, they have been there the whole time. I added them last minute and forgot to update the script that I was using in the forums.
Though Fizbin expressed some concern about the love me more than life line, I forgot it was in this script until I made the tweaks. I left it in after this tweak because I have noticed no ill or strange effects of it.
Sexually Sub missive:
I am a sub missive and obedient wife. (Added obedient)
I am happy being a sub missive and obedient wife. (Added obedient)
I enjoy submitting to and obeying Eldrin. (Added obeying)
I give up all control to Eldrin.
Giving up control to Eldrin makes me feel wonderful.
I love to submit to Eldrin sexually.
I let down all barriers for sex with Eldrin. (Reworded because it was conditional, used ‘when’)
I happily give in to Eldrin’s sexual demands.
I enjoy obeying Eldrin’s sexual commands. (New statement)
I am open to every sex act Eldrin desires.
I love being sexually naughty.
I am happy to do anything Eldrin wants during sex. (New statement)
I am happy to give Eldrin sex every day.
Giving Eldrin sex shows my submission.
I enjoy letting Eldrin have his way with me.
Giving in to Eldrin excites me.
I want to completely submit to and obey Eldrin right now. (These have also been there the whole time)
I need to completely submit to and obey Eldrin right now.
I am going to completely submit to and obey Eldrin right now.Again the last 3 lines have been there the whole time, they were just last minute additions that didn’t get updated here. I have text aloud on my desktop, netbook, and have been trying to keep the scripts i’ve been using synced between those, and synced on my journal here, but sometimes I forget to have the latest info.
Again, since my wife doesn’t use the word sub missive or submit much, I feel the need to associate it with other words she would better understand. Giving in or giving up control has been in from the start, but I felt like Obey and obedient were nice additions to help her better understand what is meant by submission. She is indeed acting more submissive, but I think these slight alterations will help hammer the message home and its not enough for her subconscious to treat it like a new script.
Oral:
I love Eldrin so much. (Exposure to some ideas from my main two scripts, maintenance of those ideas)
I often show my love by sucking Eldrin’s d ick. (Using the ideas from previous scripts to fuel oral)
I love to make Eldrin happy.
I enjoy making Eldrin happy most of all.
I can make Eldrin happy by sucking his d ick.
I am happy to submit to Eldrin completely.
I often show my submission by sucking Eldrin’s d ick.
I always obey Eldrin’s requests for blow jobs.
I love sucking Eldrin’s d ick everyday.
I love the taste of Eldrin’s d ick.
I think Eldrin’s come tastes delicious.
I happily swallow all of Eldrin’s come.
I know Eldrin’s d ick always slides easily into my mouth and throat.
I think Eldrin’s d ick feels soothing in my mouth and throat. (She fears gagging, I thought these might help)
I feel very happy sucking Eldrin’s d ick.
I suck Eldrin’s d ick better than any one. (confidence in her own skills)
My blow job skills are amazing.
I always suck Eldrin’s d ick first thing in the morning. (Probably not gonna happen, but why not try)
I always suck Eldrin’s d ick at bedtime.
I want to suck Eldrin’s d ick right now.
I need to suck Eldrin’s d ick right now.
I am going to suck Eldrin’s d ick right now.The timeframe statements near the end I don’t expect to happen, but they may reinforce the idea of her doing it on a regular basis without asking me. Worst case scenario is they have no effect, but they don’t detract from anything else so its no big deal to test it out.
My scripts all end with the I want/I need/I am going to…right now clause. My wife’s life is marked by excessive passive behavior and inaction. She has never been as submissive as she is right now, but she has always been passive, getting other people to do things for her via blaming, persuasion and multiple other verbal tactics that are more instinctive than anything. I’ve included those clauses in all of my scripts as a call to action and to instill a sense of urgency to act on the topic. Its hard to tell with happiness and submission topics if they are doing the job, but with an actual sexual act it will better be able to see one way or the other. I have seen no side effects from them thus far so I’m leaving them in.
Concerning submission however, in the last few days I have noticed she does back down rather quickly if she tries to assert herself and i push back.
Just yesterday she started yelling at me for throwing her dirty knife in the sink. She goes ‘STOP IT”. I immediately pushed back, and told her that we have a soap filled dish wand and she should just take a measily 10 seconds to wash& rinse it off and leave it in the dish drainer rather than lay a dirty knife on a clean counter near clean dishes. She immediately did as I told her to do and didn’t say another word. I secretly felt rather amused by her immediate backdown and compliance.
12/21/2013 at 11:36 pm12/21:
Wife got home late due to trying to pick me up a last minute christmas gift( she didn’t feel like 1 present was enough, despite me saying otherwise). I went to the gym came home about 6. She says she shopped around for 30 minutes but didn’t find what she was looking for, but found Home Alone which she was playing when I walked in. Don’t really believe her of course, she has had her nose firmly planted in her ipad, and has barely spoken a word to me since I got home. Has remained a bit distant as well. Dunno if she is simply trying not to give away the fact that she did find a xmas present, or she is backsliding. Probably the former, but in any case I started her in on My Happiness and Sexually submissive playlist as soon as I got home to warm her up a bit.
In the dining room now and will wait to see if she warms up a bit and comes to find me/wonder what I am doing, or if she continues to act like I don’t exist. She may just feel bad about hiding something from me, even if it is just a xmas present. She acted like this when she was hiding the conversation from me about her brother bashing me. So likely my scripts about making me happy and submitting to me, may clash with any attempt on her part to keep things from me, as she knows I hate that. Not that I wanna know what she got me, just an observation.
Update:
Shortly after typing this, about an hour after the subliminals had been playing, I walked into the living room and sat down long enough to look something up on my ipad, making sure not to disrupt the subs playing in the background. Shortly she started talking to me, and smiling, and playfully ‘bonking’ me with the wrapping paper she was now using to wrap presents. I smiled back at her and began conversing with her. I figured she was warmed up enough at that point so I started exclusively on the oral script for the remainder of the night/overnite.
not long after i started playing that script, maybe 30 mins, she came over from her side of the couch and laid down with her head on my lap. She occasionally playfully slapped my leg, for no reason at all, but simply just to do it. While watching tv, i had my hand firmly placed on her butt, and the hand she had under her head seemed to be ‘accidentally’ positioned right next to my manhood. She spent the rest of the night cuddling with me in this manner until we had a late dinner. During that time she would occasionally slap me on the leg and look up with a girlish grin, or lie there watching tv, working her fingers into the inside of my thigh ever so gently.
Then of course came dinner, and the boy arrived home, and that marked the end of that playful endeavor. After our big dinner we were both rather tired and just went to bed. The boy got scared and had to sleep with us for a bit, so I didn’t actually fall asleep a good 2 hours until my wife had already zonked out. I eventually took him back to his room so I could sleep as well.
Granted I wasn’t expecting to get any head that night, although that would have been awesome, but once again, simply having sexual related thoughts/images of my d ick zinging around my wife’s head seems to be enough to get her in an aroused/playful state.
We will be alone again tomorrow while the boy is with his grandpa most of the day. I will continue to play this script and see what happens. At best I think it will get her aroused once more. I will then alternate back to the My Happiness and Sexually Sub missive scripts for over nite sunday.
12/22/2013 at 9:17 pmRather than play My Happiness and Sexually Submissive on alternating nights from my oral, I decided to go another route. I’ve seen some say Love Honor and Obey was a popular script of trainers. It deals with the same topics of happiness of the husband and obeying(another word for submitting) to him.
I took the same idea, and condensed my happiness and submissive scripts into one.
I did this by taking the most important phrases from both and copying them into a new script. Tried to keep the script length comparable to one, about 24 lines or so. I did add a couple new lines in some places to make it flow better, but 95% of it is just copied and pasted from my previous two scripts to create a condensed version I can play along side my oral every night, which also has redundant language about love, my happiness and submission.
Finally I doubled the script length by adding a second person version of each statement after. So the script alternates:
I love Eldrin so much.
You love Eldrin so much.
She has shown some response to this type of script.
Granted that does increase the script length, but its basically repeating the same statement twice before moving to the next affirmation, which I don’t see as detrimental and may allow her subconscious to better absorb each statement. That may be a reason enough that it is showing some difference, or it may be a feeling of peer pressure from the You versions of the statements. Either way I’ve noticed some more immediate response to such scripts from her and want to test it out more fully.
12/23/2013 at 10:09 pm12/23:
Wife woke up as normal, seemed pleasant, then near 1130, she started getting all paniced. She started spouting all this stuff she claimed needed to be done, and I she had to work tonite too, and was getting herself worked up into a bit of a frenzy. I calmly told her to calm down, and made a sarcastic remark about how fussing and yelling would improve the situation and help everyone. She had six hours, and I would likely be doing most of that stuff anyway. This is my normal wife’s behavior, more than a few tasks on her plate and she lets herself get frustrated, so I told her to continue sorting the boys toys into “keep, and get rid of” piles like she had started, and straighten the boys room up, and I would work on getting some other stuff done around the rest of the house.
I brought toys in from all over the house and laid them at her feet to mess with, then did the dishes, threw the laundry in the washer/dryer, and cleaned the toilet, sink, and bathroom floor. Later that day before she took her nap, I folded said laundry.
She finished the boys room up, and we both held the boy down while I took clippers to his head. She bathed him, while I worked on some of the other above chores, mainly at that point, cleaning the bathroom.She left once while I watched him, then came back as I was cleaning and asked the boy if he was ok, then asked if I was okay. I remarked “no, not really. I could use some ‘relief’…” She said she was sorry, its not like we can do anything right now. I told her that I didn’t expect her to jump up on the sink in front of the boy and service me, I meant for later.
Afterwards we both sat down to watch some tv and eat. She was fairly pleasant, and laid her head on my shoulder to rest, as she tires very easily right now. Once she got up and sat back down, and I laid my head on her breasts, and made a remark about how incredibly soft her ‘pillows’ were. She playfully slapped me on the arm and looked at me with a giant grin. Then placed her head back on my shoulder and cuddled. Once she even reached over and gave my manhood a little squeeze through my pants out of the blue.
All day long she has been making remarks that sounded sexually oriented after the fact. Maybe its just the fact that I’m extra aroused today. She made a remark about me making stuffing balls for a xmas eve party, but instead of saying put the stuffing balls in the bowl, she said to ‘put the balls in the hole’. When she wrote the grocery list down, she spelled it ‘stiffing balls’.
While she was in the kitchen getting her lunch for work ready, she made another remark that sounded sexual after the fact, I picked on her about it and she laughed again, then smiled at me and said “If you don’t get your mind out of the gutter you aren’t getting any of this tonite!”
I immediately took a few things away from this remark. First and foremost sex was on her brain, and she was telling me she was intending to comply with my request from earlier without complaint. Secondly, even though she seemed playful in her tone, i sensed this was some sort of boundry testing, so I playfully pushed back. I smacked her on the ass and told her that if she didn’t give it I would just take it.
Later in the bedroom she was getting dressed for work, I was finishing folding the last bit of clothes. As she stripped I playfully gave her a pinch on the bottom. She tells me don’t touch me. I ask why not, She looks at me a bit and smiles and says my husband is not allowed to touch me. I smiled back and slapped her on the ass very firmly, and playfully told her to stop being an ass. She threw some shirts in my face and told me to hang them up instead of folding them, I threw them back at her and told her to say please and to treat her husband with respect. She gives a little cute pouty face and says that shes pregnant and she can act like an ass if she wants to. I told her, yes you can, but not with me, theres 7 billion other people in the world you can take it out on.
She made some little remark about how her co worker female friend told her she could see her ass in her tight stretchy jeans. I told her that was the point of pants like that, they are so tight you can see the contours of your butt, and that they looked hot on her. And that her friend was just jealous because my wife has a nice butt, unlike her friend who is practically anorexic.
All in all my wife was playful, teasing, and seemed to have sex on her mind, as well as being compliant with my requests, though she let me know indirectly. A few occasions though playful seemed like she was using teasing and joking to test her boundries, but I felt like I pushed back just enough and she didn’t get mad at me or upset when I did, just acted more playful.
Hopefully tonite her playfulness extends to the bedroom, where she has been rather passive and lazy of late. I would like to see her a little bit more active with sex, though as long as she complies with what I want to do, and we both climax, its no big deal. She has already given me the ultimatum that she is intending to give me sex as I requested so thats a big departure from her not mentioning it all day and me just forcibly pulling her pants off at bedtime.
12/25/2013 at 3:59 amNow I know your wife is pregnant so it’s an exception to help out around the house. However, after she gives birth, I’d highly recommend to let her do most of the chores…
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/31/husbands-housework-sex/1880719/
“Husbands who do a lot of cooking, cleaning, laundry and other traditionally female forms of housework may do their marriages some good — but, contrary to popular belief, they are not rewarded with more sex, a new study finds.
Instead, it’s the guys who do the most lawn work, car repair, driving and bill-paying – traditional men’s jobs – who have the most sex in marriage, the study suggests. The same is true for women who do the most traditional female housework, according to the study published in the February issue of American Sociological Review.
For better or worse, the authors say, heterosexual married couples may still be reading from traditional “sexual scripts” when it comes to both housework and sex.
In other words, the study concludes: “Men or women may, in essence, be turned on (however indirectly) when partners in a marriage do more gender-traditional work.”
The study comes with one major caveat: It is based on data collected two decades ago. While the researchers say little has likely changed since then, some other experts disagree.
The researchers, from the Juan March Institute in Spain and the University of Washington in Seattle, looked at data collected on about 4,500 heterosexual married U.S. couples participating in the National Survey of Families and Households between 1992 and 1994. The couples reported having sex an average of five times a month.
Couples in which women did all of the traditional female chores had sex 1.6 times more each month than couples in which men did all of those jobs. The more cooking and cleaning a husband did, the less sex the couple had; women’s cooking and cleaning was linked with more sex. Couples in which men did more traditional male chores also had more sex; it did not seem to matter if women did more or less of those chores.
The findings were not linked to male or female earnings or to religious beliefs.
But before the nation’s husbands throw out their dishcloths, they might want to consider this: The study does not say more traditional couples are more satisfied with their sex lives or their marriages. The researchers cite other studies showing that “when men do more housework, wives’ perceptions of fairness and marital satisfaction tend to rise.” Couples with more equal divisions of labor also are less likely to divorce, research shows.
“Some women may find a guy more sexy when he’s fixing something around the house than when he’s doing the ironing,” says Stephanie Coontz, director of research and public education for the Council on Contemporary Families. “I’m not surprised that there are many women and men who still find the old ways more sexy. But there also are couples who now find egalitarian relationships more sexy and a better prescription for long-term happiness in marriage.”
A survey conducted today likely would find more couples in the latter category, says Coontz, who teaches history and family studies at Evergreen State College in Olympia, Wash.
Also worth noting: The study did not include childcare — so it says nothing about whether men who change diapers have more or less sex.”
12/25/2013 at 2:10 pmYup. And I agree with that viewpoint tap as most of my marriage experience backs it up. I think alot of us have come into our manhood in layers. The psychological aspect of it is a more recent revelation culminating with the addition of subliminals in my experience. Learning little things like not doing most of the chores, which in the previous half of my marriage I have, indeed does not reward me with more sex and I believe put me into a lap dog type of position.
I’m careful to tell her that I am only doing these things because she is carrying my baby and she is currently fatigued. I make sure it is clear she knows I do these things because I CHOOSE to, because they need to be done, and her current state will not allow her to do it. I even told her once that I did not expect or want sex as some measily reward for doing these chores, thats not what it was about.
As far as the part about couples being more satisfied over all when men do more housework, I do not know. I am not more satisfied over all when I am having less sex. There are couples out there who have a more give and take type of relationship with each being dominant over the other at different times in a natural ebb and flow. I have a couple friends like this, but I also see the woman becoming more dominant slightly as time has went on. So I think ultimately one will try to rule out
12/26/2013 at 3:06 pm12/23 nite:
There seemed to be a disconnect after work. She was tired, she didn’t seem to remember her promise, and she acted distant and indifferent. After an hour of being ignored I went to bed. I laid there naked expecting her to follow shortly. And she did, but she simply shoved me over and rolled over to snooze off. I asked her if she was going to just go to sleep then, and she said, yes…why?. I sighed out of frustration and got up and put my clothes back on. She asked what the problem was now? and then fell asleep. I took some sleep meds and went to sleep as well, my mood was killed. As a knee jerk reaction, I played my old two scripts: My Happiness, Sexually sub missive, exclusively all night.
12/24:
My wife woke up in a pleasant and attentive mood. Halfway through the day we talked about the previous night, and she said she thought I had wanted sex, and I explained how she seemed indifferent and distant. She apologized and said she thought I was too tired anyway. I told her for future reference, I am NEVER too tired for sex, and she failed to notice I was naked and laying in her spot of the bed when she arrived. I told her to always assume I want sex and am ready for it, unless I actually tell you otherwise.We had a long day, and a xmas eve party that was nice but had some tension due to her brother being there, the one that attacked me in private conversation and almost ostricized himself. Still he acted civil and eventually everyone acted friendly with one another which was nice. I played My Happiness and Sexually sub missive all day and made sure the ipad was near her and pointed at her.
That night she was tired. But she took her clothes off and did not bother to put anything else on. She simply laid there naked waiting for me with the lights on. We had some good sex that night, we both climaxed at the same time, which I told her at the outset is what I wanted.
12/25:
I played my Oral script exclusively through the day.
Wife is pleasant, and very touchy feely all day long. She seems to need to be near me. Especially once we got home. We both went to bed tired, after having a long day. I queued up a playlist of My Happiness, Sexually sub missive, and My oral script, which i removed all the second person statements from, shortening it to 1:52. Extended it to 10 minutes, and played it alongside the other two scripts. Seems my wife treated the other condensed script too much like a new one, so I went back to My Happiness, and Sexually sub missive, and have since seen the results I was seeing before. Going to play this trio for awhile.
12/26:
All night long as my wife would toss about, I would wake up briefly to notice she just had to have her hands on me, or if turned the other way, she would reach around and pull my arm around her, and shove her butt firmly into my crotch. This morning she was very pleasant. As I got up, I reached down and rubbed her crotch through her pants. She made a playful little noise then smacked me on the butt as I turned around. Later this morning she made a point to smack me on the butt twice. Also It seems as if her morning sickness has gone away, she had no mention of nausea yesterday. Hopefully it will remain this way, as that was a large barrier to my scripts. She as likely taking in alot of them but could not bring herself to think of sex or anything else due to nausea.
We will see if she puts up any fight to sex tonite. If she doesn’t act nauseous all day, I will probably go down on her and while she is contorting in pleasure, remind her that she ‘owes me’ and see what her response is.
12/27/2013 at 4:20 pm12/26 Update:
Tried for sex with her. She offered a few complaints, but her words didn’t have any forcefullness behind them. What she offered up was that she was tired, and that I was a horny bastard. She playfully remarked that I promised she could sleep, to which I said she could, after I was done. She had a reason to be tired, it was midnight after all, so I didn’t take offense to that remark. All her remarks lacked any oopmh behind them, kind of a so-so half baked resistance that she really wasn’t going to back up.
She let me pull her pants off with no resistance whatsoever. I went down on her and she remarked that it felt good and that it always felt good. I asked her if she wanted to return the favor. She said no, not right now. Still the not right now part gives me hope, its still simply better than the flat out no’s and I don’t like that at all, remarks I used to get.
She has only been away from morning sickness symptoms for but a day, and that fear of gagging/throwing up will be there. I asked if she wanted me to make her come with my tongue or my d ick, and she told me whatever I wanted to do. I thoroughly enjoy watching her squirm and buck in pleasure so I finished her off rather aggressively.
While she was still in the afterglow of her orgasm I asked her if that felt really good, to which she said yes, and told her that when she sucks me, that it also feels that good for me and makes me that happy. She told me she knew, she was just scared. Again she seems to be held back by fears of nausea returning.
I didn’t push the issue any further and am going to continue being patient. Finished my sex with her, it was rather bland, but it was after midnight and for whatever reason she felt pretty good despite it just being good ole fashioned missionary.
12/28/2013 at 1:25 pm12/27:
Played my oral script all day long. Then played it all through the nite at bedtime. Both times it was the only thing playing. Shifting over now to just playing the oral script which has some minimal language about love, my happiness, and submission. I plan to play this exclusively from now on, hopping back to the other two: My happiness, Sexually Sub missive, only when needed. If I see her acting bitchy or being too pushy, or simply acting too selfish for my liking, I will play those two exclusively for a night or two. That seemed to work the last time as they have been on long enough to be familiar to her and sink in, so The last time I played them exclusively for a single night, she woke up very pleasant and compliant.
Once she starts getting more into oral with some consistency(hopefully) I will probably play all three for awhile until I feel the behavior is more cemented, perhaps another month after that time, before moving to another topic.
12/28/2013 at 1:34 pmSounds like a plan. Maybe time for another chorus of that ol’ time favorite around here – “Patience, Consistency, and Hormones”
12/28/2013 at 4:12 pmLol. Sounds like the intro to some musical number in a made for Christmas special.
I like my scripts currently, and They seem to have some foothold in her, so my desire to tinker and fiddle is non existent.
If I go for some sex later this week and she is too resistant then I will probably ‘prep’ her by doing a one night run of My Happiness/Sexually Sub missive, followed by a super short arousal/initiate script I have in the wings for the next day. Or if she shows any other resistance or selfishness of a significant degree.
I’m hoping the language in the oral script about love my happiness and submission, although minimal will keep her within tolerable levels on those aspects.
Then again, just playing the oral script seems to make put her into a somewhat playful, aroused mood. She seems to have an attitude even if she is acting flirty or aroused, that we just shouldn’t have sex too frequently. There is some other hangup there I need to ferret out in normal conversation that I can fix in my subliminals. Still, despite my high sex drive, as long as she gives some physical lovin twice a week I can manage for now.
Another plus is her promiscuous, younger co worker continually talks about sex around her alot, and she made mention of how her co worker detailed an oral encounter of her own to my wife. My wife probably considers this Too Much Information regardless, but it keeps those concepts fresh in her mind, and probably gives a bit of peer pressure about how ‘other girls’ consider oral normal, and exciting. She actually mentioned some innuendo in front of both of us the other night that indicated she was an eager swallower. You know what they say about how you become more like the people you spend time with the most so perhaps it will have a positive influence on my wife’s sexual attitudes.
01/14/2014 at 3:04 pmSo I haven’t updated in awhile, but heres what I’ve been up to.
I didn’t like the backsliding I saw from just the oral script on happiness and submission. So I went to work, and made a single script of about 22 lines that I felt good about. I played it about a night or two and remembered the last time that I had played a single script, and then switched to single topic scripts that played for 10+ minutes. I remember how I saw better success that way. So I kept that 22 liner, and broke it up into its component ‘paragraphs’.
After removing the transition statements which I no longer would need, I added a few lines to help further explain what I wanted submission and later what kinky sex to mean to her. The total length of all 3 scripts together is about 24.
The first script is purely about wanting my happiness, I’ve gotten it down to a mere 4 lines. It repeats 30 times in 10 minutes.
The second script is submission and obedience. It started out about 4 lines but I extended it to eight because I didn’t feel like submission was ‘explained’ enough to her.
the third, I added lines and examples of what I meant by being kinky. it runs 12 lines.
So far it has been getting some decent results,Her submissive side is returning, but she is happier about it, and happier in general.
Sex frequency has increased from once every 7-9 days, to 2-3 times per week. She gets easily aroused when I start initiating sex, and does not resist at all. During sex she gets into it and starts doing something new, gnawing and nibbling on me like a hungry animal. We also had sex on the couch the other nite, she never resisted, which she always griped about, like doing it anyplace else other than the bedroom is dirty.
I added the lines to kinky sex because I noticed she has defaulted to just missionary. She likes the being dominated feeling of it she said. This is probably the result of the submission script, combined with the kinky sex script being too nebulous. In its original version, what exactly kinky sex was, was left entirely up to her interpretation. So I put in some lines about liking different positions, different locations. Hopefully that will get her brain going.
01/15/2014 at 3:32 amThanks for the update!
01/15/2014 at 11:45 pmSome thoughts about this program. I will be returning to the workforce after 6 months off. As well as trying to build a business on the side I hope will become my full time career. My wife, at my suggestion is already entertaining thoughts of leaving her job, and working a small part time at a kennel, just because she loves animals, but otherwise being a stay at home housewife and home maker. This is no surprise, she has wanted this for awhile. I never complied in the past because it would have meant taking a job I would have hated just to earn the money needed. Also my wife is notoriously lazy around the house and is too quick to wile away her day watching CSI or plaing on Facebook. So I never allowed such an event to take place for fear I would have to basically do it all, at home and at work.
Things have changed, and it is well within our means to possibly let my wife be a housewife sometime this year. With these subliminal programs I have the confidence I can mold her habits into a motivated cooker/cleaner that keeps th house taken care of while I am at work.
So I suppose this is all my ‘new years resolution’. Training my wife not only in bedroom matters, but getting her ready, attitude wise, to be an actual housewife.01/24/2014 at 12:10 amWell I have been running scripts exclusively in the 90hz carrier freq for about a month now. I had been on the look out for some specific signs that the scripts were taking. I could not find any. In fact after looking over my journal, what few improvements I did see could easily be attributed to the cessation of all day morning sickness she had, change in hormones as she has entered the second trimester. After remember my earlier attempts to use a reverse QA nyquist on my 90 hz files and getting back nothing intelligble, I was paranoid that all this time the message was not being received at all. So I reencoded my files using trainer’s nyquist as a test. After a couple days I noticed some stuff.
First off, after stopping the 90 hz frequency, my wife seems to get agitated much more easily, and dwell on it and let little things build into big things. This is especially true of our toddler, whom on the first day she was very agitated with over every little thing, something I haven’t noticed in awhile from her. She just seemed generally angrier and stressed, which was her usual attitude before all this subliminal stuff, always one to let little stresses get to her and build up. Secondly, I noticed some things I had noticed before when the sub missive scripts started to take hold in previous months: She tried to assert herself more, seemingly out of the blue, as if she was fighting for supremacy. I took this as a sign that the sub missive script was indeed being heard finally, and her psyche was fighting back.
So after a couple days of observation, I decided that I do not believe the 90 hz frequency allows for a consistent message to be delivered, but I do believe it has a positive effect on mood and stress tolerance. So I devised a plan to kind of reboot for a minute. I would keep my 4 line happiness script, and my 8 line sub missive script. I had a new 14 line oral script, kind of a oral addiction script if you will, that I was saving for the future, but decided since I was kind of rebooting I would swap it in and swap out the sex script. My new plan was to encode these files at using trainer’s nyquist and qwerty’s 90 hz nyquist. As far as the file came out, it worked as expected. You can clearly hear the high frequency squeaking, along side the lower frequency ‘vooming’. Both frequencies are only audible on my ipad, if you have your ear physically touching the speaker, even a half a foot a way you cannot hear them.
So that is what I am doing since the night of the 21st. I have noticed some better moods since then, especially in the morning, when she is usually crabby and moody. She was generally happy all day today. I believe I am seeing her old attitudes to oral sex ‘acting out’ in response to the oral script as well. And she seems to bring up my manhood in conversation out of the blue as well as if she is thinking about it, which is in the script. So too early to tell anything just yet, but I’ll let these 3 simmer for the next 30 days, altogether they total about 24 lines, and repeat 30 times in about 64 minutes. Each one goes for 10m+ before switching to diff topic. Sex has returned to its prior twice per week average that it was before pregnancy, that while isn’t stellar concerning my libido, is way more tolerable than the once per 9 days after lots of fussing and pushing, that I was getting for 2-3 months. So I don’t feel the need for any sex specific scripts.
01/24/2014 at 3:53 am@eldrin81 said:
And she seems to bring up my manhood in conversation out of the blue as well as if she is thinking about it, which is in the script.Yeah, sounds kinda like when girls used to act strange around you in school. They’re acting weird, sure, but they’re acting in regard to _you_. It sounds like you’re making progress. Those thoughts are becoming more common to her, and it’s just a question of how hard her old habits will die. Time is on your side, as the audios will just keep wearing her down. So, I think you’re on the right track.
01/24/2014 at 2:11 pmIn the past when I played oral scripts the same thing would happen. She would just randomly say something about my penis as if she was thinking about it.
Unfortunately during my first couple months here I was a big tinkerer and flip flopper. Still those months weren’t wasted, I learned and became a better script writer, and it built patience.01/25/2014 at 2:09 amI don’t think the nyquist change makes a difference or even is a good idea. I’d stick with trainer’s nyquist settings because they have been proven to work for him. It’s worked for me a lot.
01/25/2014 at 2:02 pmThat’s what I did, I went back to trainers nyquist, but kept a 90hz track alongside because of its apparent mood enhancing effects. I told Qwerty I would be a test subject, so that’s what I did. Then I formed an opinion based off my experience with it. It may be that the 90hz track interferes somehow with the ultrasonic track, and if that is the case I am willing to accept that. But seriously i doubt that. The QA I did on the final mp3 came back good, and i can clearly hear both frequencies running separately and distinctly.
To any newbies reading this: Identify your goals, and stick with trainers nyquist and settings, except maybe amplification, that is more dependent on the the device I think. I have chosen to potentially prolong my own goals, in favor of a little experimentation, which may yield good results, or not. But of course if it does, it provides extra options for others. That’s the nature of experimentation.
01/25/2014 at 6:42 pmIt does seem reasonable to use both frequencies.I’m only using the one to make mine, but given that wife knows I’m making and using them i don’t even know that I need to use either. Before the use of silent subliminals, affirmations were made by simply masking them with music, or nature sounds, i.e. rain.if they are completely separate tracks i see no reason why you couldn’t do both.From using the 90Hz frequency I have noticed a much more mellow attitude in my wife, and perhaps in me as well?
01/25/2014 at 7:47 pmYes. I definitely can confirm without a doubt my wife is more mellow and happier listening to the 90hz.
01/31/2014 at 12:11 amSome general updates. Still playing my happiness, sub missive and obedient, and Oral addiction.
A week ago my wife was rather snarky and smartalic about things. She would assert herself as if her independence was in question, sporadically, or as if trying to push her boundaries with me. I believe a lot of her snarkiness is due to the oral script battling it out with her current attitudes. She has acted like this in the past when talking about sex acts she would not due from a third party perspective, like if she read an article about something she didn’t like or has heard a female co worker talking about her sex life.
None of these attitudes has resulted in fights or arguements she is usually a bit playful when expressing them, and I push back in a joking kind of way that she still knows I won’t put up with BS.
Probably been a week or so without sex, though I haven’t pushed the issue. My current libido isn’t quite as high as it was a month ago, as such I’m more patient. Sex probably won’t occur until I am needing it so bad I am ready to tear her clothes off or she shows some clear signs of wanting it. What I am really holding out for is the payout on the oral. I have not so much as pushed the issue or mentioned oral. I want it to come from her with little input from me, as the last time she gave it up was 3 months ago and it was followed by a loud arguement.
Today I noticed she was more playful with no snarkiness. When she got into the shower I had to hand her something and I swear she was staring right at my crotch the whole time as she shut the door.
On another note I have been playing all 3 scripts at night, and the oral exclusively during the day.
01/31/2014 at 3:03 amI’m curious how your oral script is worded. I believe you have to put the idea in her head verbally that you want her to give you a BJ. Once you do, the subconscious ideas will manifest in her head that it is what she wants to do and it’s also what you want. The trick is getting her to do it once, and then having the experience be enjoyable for her with you giving plenty of verbal reinforcement during and afterwards. She will then want to do it again.
This has nothing to do with subliminals, but I’d also recommend having good hygiene down there. I’m talking shaved, clean, and no bad smells so that’s not a reason why she doesn’t want to do it.
Currently, my wife went from hating it to liking it. She will many times look at my crotch area and lick her tongue jokingly. She asked her friend tips on how to do it well and her skills have improved. I’m negotiating with her on cumming in her mouth now, as I’ve done it once but she didn’t like it. She actually asked her friend if her boyfriend cums in her mouth which the friend said no that’s disgusting. That didn’t help, but the idea is in her head. I believe my line that says “Every man cums in his wife’s mouth” might be getting to her so she’s asking friends to see if it’s true, verifying this idea.
I mostly just play my oral custom at night by itself, and have even started playing just that one during the day, switching sometimes to my submissive one during the day. I think to be successful with the oral one, you might have to play just that one at night.
01/31/2014 at 6:48 pmI may consider soon switching to just the oral. However the total sum of all 3 scripts is less than 24 lines. My Happiness and sub missive ones are super short.
Oral Addiction:
I love sucking Eldrin’s c ock everyday. {{// New script 1/22}}
I must suck Eldrin’s c ock everyday.
I am addicted to sucking Eldrin’s c ock.
Eldrin asks for a blow job and I suck his c ock right now.
I think Eldrin’s c ock tastes delicious.
I always swallow Eldrin’s delicious cumm.
Sucking Eldrin’s c ock makes me so happy.
Sucking Eldrin’s c ock makes me cumm.
Everytime I see Eldrin I think about sucking his c ock.
I think about sucking Eldrin’s c ock all day long.
The more I think about Eldrin, the more I think about sucking his c ock.
The more I think about sucking Eldrin’s c ock, the more I think about Eldrin.
I am going to suck Eldrin’s c ock right now.
I must suck Eldrin’s c ock right now.02/01/2014 at 3:33 amI think it looks pretty good. Some of those affirmations are long, but the overall script is short and to the point.
02/01/2014 at 12:41 pmTrue they are long, but I have got her speaking pretty slow at -7. And there’s some commas in there.
02/01/2014 at 1:13 pmTime for an update,
1/30: we had some good sex tonight. Nothing spectacular but good. As we lay in bed she noticed I was hard and asked me if I wanted to have sex. For some dumb reason I half jokingly launched into a rant about how she is always tired and has a headache or some other million excuses. I guess that is just habit. She calmly told me,” I haven’t told you no all week, because you haven’t asked”. So I was like ya, you’re right. Then we got right down to business, no fuss. She rolled over for some doggy style without uttering a word of complaint. I took the opportunity while I was performing oral on her to remind her that I would like th same treatment, but didn’t get pushy about it. She said she didn’t like it, but knew that I loved it, but no BJs were had that night. However she didn’t get mad or upset and talked like this shy school girl about it and going “I dunno..” When pressed for why she didn’t like it. This leads me to believe her hang ups right at the moment are more about some “Eww” factor than anything and the script is making some progress. Seeing other peoples scripts work in this regard gives me the patience to just be like “whatever, it will happen eventually”.The whole night, and the following day she was very love able, even making some proud posts on Facebook about how awesome she thought I was, for some things I did for her outside the bedroom.
1/31: had one minor arguement, but the first blow up we have had in awhile. I vas replastering a wall and noticed it was 830. Called my wife and calmly and simply asked her where she was, she immediately got hostile about it. When she got home I gave her hell about it, I told her that like any spouse I just wanted to be aware of where my wife was and what time to expect her home, and a simple text message saying she was running late is simple courtesy, but she didn’t need to get hostile and yell about it. She launched into a usual tantrum, trying to make everything about the time she arrived home. I reminded her we only live 3 miles from work, and she has been religiously getting home about 10-12 after, so I naturally would call to see if she was ok or what was up at 30 after and no sign of her. She continued yelling about me making a big deal out of it, and I told her the big deal, the real issue that pissed me off was her getting hostile out of the blue, when I asked a simple question. I finished what I was doing and began playing just my happiness, and sub missive and obedient for a couple hours. In short time she returned to her loving self.
This will be something I have to work on with scripts in the future. Her not blowing up and making mountains out of mole hills, or having a melt down over small things, as well as accepting constructive criticism from others without getting insanely defensive. Or never owning her actions or ever apologizing, instead opting to make excuses and bring up past irrelevant faults. Her general behavior has always been that, if she so much as perceives that you think she is ‘wrong’ about something, she blows up, starts casting blame on you for past misdoings, makes excuses, or tries to trivialize her situation rather than apologize and just move on and own her actions. It is usually over small stuff more often, and she usually jumps the gun with her hostility when the people in question have shown her none.
No doubt this could have simply been hormones, or some a hole at work or on the drive home that set her in motion, but we are adults here, we can reign in and control our emotions and not take them out on those who did not start them rolling to begin with.
02/01/2014 at 9:11 pmLine Count: 18, added the commented lines, and 2 second pauses between statements.
Total Runtime: 2:02
Still enough to repeat 30 times in an hour, which is the number of repetitions it was getting before. The difference this time is it will be the only one playing at night, and the 2 second pauses may help the statements sink in better. Have some affirmations at the front in about making me happy via oral, so that should tie in nicely as an added reason.This should be the only thing I am going to play for the short month of February.I want to make Eldrin happy every day. {{// Additions 2/1}}
Making Eldrin happy pleases me the most. {{// Additions 2/1}}
I know sucking Eldrin’s c ock makes him happy. {{// Additions 2/1}}
Sucking Eldrin’s c ock everyday is my top priority. {{// Additions 2/1}}
I love sucking Eldrin’s c ock everyday. {{// New script 1/22}}
I must suck Eldrin’s c ock everyday.
I am addicted to sucking Eldrin’s c ock.
Eldrin asks for a blow job and I suck his c ock right now.
I think Eldrin’s c ock tastes delicious.
I always swallow Eldrin’s delicious cumm.
Sucking Eldrin’s c ock makes me so happy.
Sucking Eldrin’s c ock makes me have an orgasm.
Everytime I see Eldrin I think about sucking his c ock.
I think about sucking Eldrin’s c ock all day long.
The more I think about Eldrin, the more I think about sucking his c ock.
The more I think about sucking Eldrin’s c ock, the more I think about Eldrin.
I am going to suck Eldrin’s c ock right now.
I must suck Eldrin’s c ock right now.02/01/2014 at 10:59 pmEldrin;
Just wanted to let you know that your wife isn’t the only one out there that reacts like that to correction or criticism. Mine will never just allow what she did to be wrong – or even not preferable – and so every attempted criticism is met with argumentative support for the action being criticized. It’s one of the biggest things I have to overcome. I have the advantage of having her actually knowing and liking that she came here to change her ways – but still it’s tough to get her past the programming of the past. If you find something that helps please post it as I do follow along. I’ll do the same…. but I am not expecting instant change anytime soon. I honestly believe that when change on that front occurs it will be because of something else that wasn’t intended to change that – and I probably won’t be able to attribute the change rationally. But we’ll see – because that change is coming. Eventually!
Keep up the good work!
MSS
02/01/2014 at 11:08 pmPossible Script for such attitudes:
I am accepting of criticism.
NAME knows what is best for me.
I accept NAME’s criticism.
NAME’s criticism helps me improve.
I enjoy improving myself for NAME.
I love a good challenge.
I always face my fears and flaws.
Change is good for me.
I accept the change NAME suggests.
I love changing and improving for NAME.
NAME knows what is best for me.02/01/2014 at 11:27 pmI have kind of psycho analyzed my wife over the years to determine the basis for some of her attitudes, and I am positive that her overly critical, brother and father are to blame. I was with this girl for the past 12 years and that was something that I immediately noticed about her family. She reminds me of Meg Griffin from Family Guy in the treatment her family gave her, though prettier (not that she believes as such though). Though since her mother passed her father has toned way back, but her brother has gotten much worse.
02/02/2014 at 8:06 amKeep us updated on if this script seems to help your wife accept constructive criticism.
My wife seems to think if I don’t tell her that she is absolutely doing fantastic at everything then I am “insulting” her. This past week has been a slowdown week. She has pretty much every night made excuses about feeling bad, but is running around doing all kinds of crap during the day, saying she feels fine. But again every night, “my stomach hurts”, ” I think I’m getting a fever”,”burrrr, I’m so cold” (it’s 74F inside), “I’m so tired, I’m going to bed” (I find her an hour later sewing). And then when I tell her that I feel like she hasn’t been paying enough attention to me she says she’s getting tired of me “insulting” her.
So have something that has seemed to work for similar issue might be a good place for me to start as well. I’m going to look at that script closely and see if I an modify it to play more closely into my wife’s attitudes and situation.
02/02/2014 at 2:26 pmThats a future script, so I wont be playing it until a latter month. This month is all about my oral addiction script and nothing else. I have many, many scripts in the wings. When I get an idea about something that might make a good script, or want to fiddle, I write a new script, and try to work at making it perfect, but I archive it after I’m done and forget about it. Occasionally I go back and look at it and tweak it. Recently I have went through those scripts and re read them, and deleted the ones that just seem to be redundant or not what I had hoped, and then numbered them in the order I am going to play them in the coming months.
02/08/2014 at 3:07 pmAn update:
Well lastnite was a little doozy. We had an arguement about our son staying overnite with my mother. My wife has always disliked my mother greatly. So I let her have it about that, and told her she needed to get over it and that my mother was part of our life, that she had done nothing to provoke my wife’s anger or hatred etc. This may be something I will have to address with a future script. However this arguement wasn’t very extreme, just some slightly raised voices, and my wife actually seemed to listen to me. We had much more extreme ones back in Oct and Nov. when we were yelling at the tops of our lungs, and my wife wanted to just run away from everything and thought it would get fixed. She seems to have gotten over some of that drama queen behavior thankfully, and I can actually carry on a bit of a conversation or argument with her and feel like I have made some headway.However that set the stage for today. My wife gets to work and starts texting me that she is worried about our life and going on a rant about how I seem not to care etc.
Some background related to this:
I alluded to this in another post, but I am currently without job. I have been searching for another job, unwilling to knee jerk into a crappy dead end, burnt out, job out of some fear of starving to death and making hasty decisions. My previous job inquiry back near January’s end fell through as there was a huge influx of applications and my friend that was supposed to recommend me pussy-footed around on dropping my email by his HR dept.We still have a good nest egg, which has been further buffered by a 4500 tax refund. I live in a rural area, and our expenses only run about 12-1300 a month, so needless to say our nest egg is good enough for several more months. I have also become much more frugal with our spending and groceries the last few months.
However, my wife likes to keep things bottled up, her worries and such, and then gets to work where some nosy a-holes set her off. I need to stay confident and motivated to keep job searching, and I cannot do that if she is flipping out with gloom and doom and treating me like some bum because she does not see every effort I make or is indulged with every detail of progress or failure.
My wife has always quick to stress over anything, and prone panic during even the smallest crises. This has always been a thorn in my side, keeping me distracted and from solving the problem to begin with.
As of today I am going to start playing one of my own scripts for myself I was playing a few months ago (about confidence and such). But I am also writing a new script to help with her trust and faith in me, as well as relaxing and general feel good.
02/08/2014 at 3:16 pmFirst Draft:
Happiness, Trust, and CalmI love Eldrin more than anything.
I am happy with Eldrin.
I am happy with my life.
I feel good about my life with Eldrin.
I trust Eldrin completely.
I trust Eldrin to find a good job.
I trust Eldrin to take care of us.
I trust Eldrin to take care of our money.
I trust Eldrin to make the right decisions.
I am relaxed about our situation.
I feel good about our situation.
I am calm about our situation.
I always talk to Eldrin about my feelings.
I am comfortable telling Eldrin my thoughts.02/08/2014 at 10:33 pmYour wife could be worried about your money problems. I hope things work out financially for you soon.
02/09/2014 at 11:20 amThat is a tough situation all around. Is your wife involved in your budgetary planning? She should be. (short plug for the Dave Ramsey personal finance approach goes here…
)On the subliminal side, that looks like a reasonable start, both from the self and wife sides.
Also, if things do get a bit tight, don’t knock those “dead end” jobs as a way to keep In the habit of working, as well as to help with some self confidence.
02/09/2014 at 5:32 pmya. i’m not above the dead end jobs if i absolutely need them, just don’t feel i do at the moment. No my wife receives little input on the budget. I took that over years ago when she kept over drawing the account and showed little regard/carelessness for such things. She submitted to my will on finances and gave up her own personal account. She also is prone to panicking and blowing up over even the slightest perceived crises. I on the other hand rarely if ever worry, which sometimes gets perceived as lack of caring, when in fact I just like challenges and working the problem with little emotion involved.
Things always work out when I remain positive and focus on positive outcomes/have faith that they will. I like to work the problem, not fret over it.
This script is partially an attempt to help my assuage my wife’s panicky nature, and her attitudes ability to distract and get me emotionally worked up. Even when I was working 40+ hours a week she would get panicky when talking about money. Hell she flips out when the gas light comes on and we have to drive 5 or less miles to the nearest station.
As such for years, I have handled all monetary concerns because I am good at it, but also because of her attitudes and lack of emotional control. Its more a service to her I suppose that I don’t want her to worry. Perhaps with this subliminal script I can get her to relax some and worry less.
I believe alot of this may have been stirred up from lack of sleep that particular night and hip pain she has been experiencing. She told me in a conversation later that day, about being up most of the night. I played the new script and she seemed calm and settled during the conversation. I know from personal experience getting only a few hours of sleep can make me very paranoid, prone to quick stress or temper or worrying when I usually don’t, so it may have been the culprit for her behavior.
Still I am gonna stick with this script during the day as it is positive all the way around anyway.
02/09/2014 at 5:40 pmI should mention that I don’t keep my wife completely in the dark about our finances, I just try to gloss over or not mention things I know she would view as negative or flip out about. If its something reassuring or positive I always tell her.
02/09/2014 at 6:48 pmEldrin;
I feel your pain, Bud!
My girl has the exact problem that you describe in your wife and it drives me batty. She goes nuts worrying over the smallest issue. Always sees the drama in everything. Over the years we’ve been together she’s gotten a lot better about i; but it’s still probably my biggest complaint about her regular personality. When we got together she begged me to do all the finances, doesn’t want to know. She had to do it in her previous relationship. But that’s really the only way she’s secure.
And to me that IS the big thing about the whole “The sky is falling” mentality. it would appear to be more about insecurity than practical rational thought. And I HATE insecurity. She especially needs to be able to feel secure because of her history. So that is something I’m going to try to incorporate into the first custom I create for her. Anyone who is insecure wastes too much time and energy on that – and is distracted from productive pursuits. I think we’ve got to do all we can to make our subjects ( wife, girlfriend, whatever) secure in themselves so they can relax enough to change.
Anyway – thanks for making me think of that issue. I’ll let you know if I have any success doing anything about it.
MSS
02/09/2014 at 9:00 pmMine is the same way.
No offence to Dave Ramsey, his idea are the ideal. If the wife will buck up and take responsibility for herself and her actions, great let her in on it. I listen to him often, and most of what I hear is him bashing on husbands because he was a crappy husband, and just seems to assume we are all irresponsible “boys”. And then women pick up on that and call about their “boys” and he tells them “don’t be his mommy”. My personal experience with seeing men and women in real life is that women get involved in wanting so many of the niceties. True the dudes sometime go in or a nice truck or car and entertainment systems, stereo/TV. But, they (Women) are the ones that go nuts getting nice furniture, nice wallpaper/paint, nice curtains, nice bedroom suites nice kitchen utensils, nice flower garden, the lawn and house have to look manicured and pristine. One freakin’ chair will cost the same as a decent 50″ flatscreen LED TV. Don’t mention the sofa, loveseat and other trimmings. But Dave rarely jumps the women on that stuff. Just for the record, I do not condone lying or obfuscating about finances though; there are limits.
But, she used to deliberately put bills on the TV (back when they were fat, the TV’s not just the bills) so they’d slide off behind it and get lost, while putting other things on our “mail table”.
My 830 FICO went to about 450 in two years. It took me almost 10 years to build it back up to the high 700’s again after I took ALL bills from her but the trash bill. Which she still cannot pay on time two months in a row. But she still insists that SHE helped build my credit back up by keeping up with the bills, despite having only the trash bill to pay for the last 10 years or so.
So I feel you brother; that idea of keeping the women in the loop is fine if she acts like an adult. When mine does, I’ll let her handle stuff again. But Dave apparently married a grown woman and then he grew up. I married a spoiled girl and she hasn’t yet. If yours hasn’t then you should probably keep the “details” to yourself.
02/09/2014 at 10:23 pmMy wife may be insecure, but she is definitely grown up, and much more diligent about managing details than I am. Frankly, most of the guys Dave tears a new one for ARE basically large children. In my case, she gets the checkbook, but we work together to set our goals, and I do get final say. She acts more in the “first officer” category. (In fact, she would rather I handled it all, but her doing this is actually an act of submission to me, so it works out pretty well.)
02/09/2014 at 10:28 pmI am thankful this is one area my wife has little or no interest in being involved in. I have taken care of the financial end of our marriage for years, as my wife recognizes she is not equipped to handle it. I would actually like to get her more involved, in case something happens to me.
02/09/2014 at 10:33 pmI don’t keep mine in the loop because she typically doesn’t want to be. She chose this path. Her problem and worry is simply the fact that I am without a job. Even though we are good right now, and have been, she from time to time imagines some grim future where we have lost everything and are starving to death. A worst case scenario for sure. And while some would say its a possibility, our lives are not steered by chance or dice rolls, but choice and effort.
As I have stated this is recurring behavior for her. Once several years ago we had a medical ER bill go to collections we couldn’t pay. My wife was convinced they were going to arrest us that very day. So what happened? I tried working with the collections company who was obtuse and had very rude reps, as well as high payment plans, so I let it sit for a year until our tax refund came in. Nobody ever served us or arrested us etc.
02/09/2014 at 10:39 pmThe last time I actually tried to get my wife involved she said she wanted nothing to do with it. She hates numbers and math, and it was an added stress she did not want. My hope for the new script is that it helps de stress and relax her all around, which is something she needs anyway.
02/09/2014 at 10:41 pmHer behavior since tHat night has been back to normal. So I am convinced that most of that arose from lack of sleep. Sleep deprivation allows for one to get easily stressed and she is quickly stressed anyway. Still I play that script for pat of the day, because it’s an all around positive script so why not.
02/10/2014 at 2:22 pm2/9: After talking with Tap, and reminiscing about my micro script phase, I cut out some lines this morning in my oral script, no new lines, no changes beyond cutting the fat. Its now a lean and mean 10 liner. Even with 2 second pauses between each statement, and a speaking speed of -7, it only runs 1 minute 2 seconds long. This means it repeats 58 times an hour.
I really had to analyze each line, but ultimately, I found some lines that were unnecessary. First off were the happiness lines. She seems to have a moderately “i want to make you happy attitude’ and she already knows that oral makes me happy, I dont need an affirmation for that, so out they went. I threw out the the more I see, the more I do lines. While I like that circular logic, they were verbose and seemed like they had the same purpose as my “I think about sucking Name’s cock all day long” line. There was an I am going to right now line at the end, but it was right next to I must do line. Those say basically the same thing, except I like the word must better. I am going to, sounds like something you would do tomorrow, I must sounds like an imperative action.Now its at 10 lines and repeats lots. Going to try working my other scripts down to that level, though some it will be really hard to cut out 8-10 lines without losing meaning.
As far as behavior goes, other than the blow up the other day, she is more amorous. Although I don’t push for sex as often, When I show any sign of wanting it, she complies with the same level of want. Outside of that she seems to smack/pinch my butt quite often now, and finds little excuses to occasionally touch my package, like joking around she is gonna beat me up after watching a movie, and then playfully ‘punching’ me in the crotch. A little corny in the flirting department, but of course the punches aren’t really punches, they are more just touching that area with her hand, or her accidentally grazing it while trying to go to sleep, then reaching down and grabbing it, just to make sure she actually touched what she thought she did.
The other day she actually got mad, in a playful way, that I didn’t come into the bathroom to sneak a peak at her while she was showering. Usually she gets upset that I am letting the heat out.
So all in all her attitude other than an exception or two, has been playful and flirty.
02/15/2014 at 2:38 pm2/14:
My wife and I had sex last nite as I imagine millions did. She still won’t do oral when suggested or prompted. Leading me to believe just my oral file playing all by its lonesome is not good enough. It needs one good companion script paired with it I believe.She also still has the ‘You’re weird’ attitude towards me wanting to do anything other than missionary or her on top. I would have gotten angry at that sexually repressed, childish comment in the past. Quite frankly its insulting to me, and I told her as such. But instead of getting angry, I got the idea for a possible companion script.
Something to open her up, and make her proud/embrace her sexuality and see her body and sex as something other than dirty/icky etc. Will try to create something like that today in my spare time.
The only other option for me is to go with my Happy submissive slave as the paired companion script. I believe it really ties together themes of complete submission (she has backtracked on this completely) and my happiness which is likely what I will try. Still keeping the oral script playing along side this however.
02/15/2014 at 5:25 pmEldrin
I was seeing a similar issue a few weeks back, some resistance.
I am running 3 scripts and all have reference to being proud of the “behavior” I am reinforcing, i.e. Sexuality, Obedience, Oral.
For example I incorporated this into a three line group in my ILS script that reference: I am a highly sexual woman, I am Proud to be such a highly sexual, and Other women wish they could be as highly sexual I am.I have not tried running a single script all on it’s own but I have really good luck with 3.
I’ve had great luck using 2 foundation scripts as anchors for everything else.
His Happiness (with Core suggestions for obedience and submissive )
I Love Sex (with Core suggestions about being sexually uninhibited and being open to new things)
I repeat the core idea group (about 5 lines each) several times in each foundation script which makes them a bit long but high overall repetition on the core ideas.To these foundations I add a single behavior script, e.g. Oral.
I plan to transfer a line or two from my oral script into the foundations once I am happy with the results.
I am hoping this will keep it anchored and prevent back sliding once I shift to a different goal for my behavior script.Best of Luck
02/15/2014 at 6:10 pmYa I had switched to the oral script for focus and repetitions, but my previous efforts of enforcing husbands happiness and submission were obviously not fully cemented. My slave track will hopefully pin that down. I may add a third script about embracing her sexuality and being proud of it, but will need to keep it short.
02/15/2014 at 6:13 pmA lot of the script writing involves finding the right words. The words that successfully convey the meaning you are looking for in as little words as possible. These words also have to be relevant and understood by the wife, so if her vocabulary isn’t up to snuff, some words will be useless
02/15/2014 at 7:03 pm2/16:
So here’s the plan. As of today I am playing 3 scripts:
– My Oral script that has been playing since the beginning of February, and got cut back to 10 lines on the 9th (10 lines, 1:02 min.)– My Happy Submissive Slave one, also known as I am a slave girl as Trainer named it. (19 lines, 1:44 min) playing since about the 14th.
– I am Eldrin’s slut(new) (15 lines, 1:23 min.) *
– All scripts are encoded using Trainer’s default nyquist, and recorded using Cepstral Amy, set to negative 7 speed, with 2 second pauses between each statement.
-All scripts have been extended to 10 minutes in Audacity using the repeat command.*-I decided to follow my own advice, and slept on it. After I awoke I decided a different direction might be better. The slave script has been paired with the oral one since Valentines day. My wife show’s no signs of depressive behavior yet, or any negative emotions. Hopefully that stays that way.
02/26/2014 at 1:34 pm2/26 update:
No major events to report. There are several little but important observations however:- My personal sex drive has went down lately due to a minor but temporary back injury and my wife having a crappy sinus infection/cold and not being able to take much for it. I have strong back & muscles though and I’m feeling good as of today, my wife’s congestion seems to have subsided as well.
- My wife is generally compliant for sex and other things when I care enough about it to be demanding or am in the mood. Just Sunday she simply rolled on over for some doggy style on the couch with no complaint or backtalk. (Of course the boy was away)
- She doesn’t argue with me right now. In fact we haven’t had an argument in the past two weeks.
- She told me about a conversation she had with our neighbor who inquired about if I had found a job, she told her she wasn’t worried, that she trusted me. I informed her about a few opportunities I was exploring that hopefully will pan out in short order, if not I’ll be off to look for local mundane jobs at fast food places etc for the time being.
- Been playing some partner scripts on myself, that affirm the place her scripts describe me as. Ie. Master of her and the household.
- She has been waking up happy and wanting me to come back to bed to snuggle with her or be near her. Usually she wakes up in a foul crabby mood. In fact she almost always did that for most of our marriage.
- I backed off to just my oral script and my slave script. Both our sex drives are in a low point right now, so I’m not too worried about sex related scripts other than oral. I haven’t broached that subject until I am sure her cold/sinus congestion has gone away.
- She has picked at me alot, in a flirty and joking manner. Some of this includes fake/joking assertions of dominance, that I just jokingly brush away and don’t let phase me. The rest is just plain how she flirts, through sarcasm and jokes. Alot of butt pinching and smacking coming from her lately too, not that I am complaining.
All in all the slave script seems to be taking effect little by little, and putting her in a better mood. My scripts currently use only trainer’s nyquist so no 90hz tones are responsible for mood enhancement. This will hopefully pave the attitude necessary for the oral script which has been playing all month. Once her cold is gone I will broach the subject.
02/26/2014 at 1:41 pmI should note the two scripts I play on my self are done with the 4 hz isochronic pulse track I mentioned in another thread. I tend to listen to my own scripts with headphones on while napping. The effects of the 4hz pulse with headphones on seems substantial to me, most likely because you are immersed in that sound. It is barely audible from the speaker at a distance. I think for the pulse to do its job, it needs to be audible for entrainment, its not a subliminal after all, it is merely trying to help the subliminal achieve its goal better. Like the rain files it masks any squeaking nicely provided you haven’t got the amplification too high.
02/27/2014 at 10:14 amIt sounds to me like you are both getting to a place where you are comfortable with your relationship dynamic, independently from the employment situation. And really, isn’t THAT our true goal?
02/27/2014 at 12:52 pmYa. Frankly I’ve learn and seen a few things since I have been unemployed. Many of which revolve around women’s negative attitudes towards men these days, and societies double standard. You always hear about women’s side of things, because women express their thoughts and emotions readily. Guys do not, we hold things in, or ‘man up’, and deal with it, ignore it, or push forward, so you never hear widespread problems of the male gender. I think the biggest realization is the judgement of men based on a single number, their earnings.
02/27/2014 at 12:56 pmOne of the things I talked with her about early on, was that I think my previous job damaged us. We saw each other in passing as I came home and she headed to work, and then only got 1 day a week, which we frequently spent in a group setting, tabletop gaming, that we both enjoyed. Then BAM we had all this time alone together. Alot of my frustration was the fact that my wife basically ignored me and treated me like a stray dog the first bit, because we were so used to being apart. I think that the current economic climate, whereby a woman HAS to work to help support, is part of the reason why divorce rates are what? 70%+
02/27/2014 at 1:07 pm@Fizbin said:
It sounds to me like you are both getting to a place where you are comfortable with your relationship dynamic, independently from the employment situation. And really, isn’t THAT our true goal?
Its true. In addition, Many times the specific acts we try to achieve here, are symbolic. Oral for me, beyond feeling great, represents submission and selflessness and love for instance.
02/27/2014 at 6:16 pm@eldrin81 said:
One of the things I talked with her about early on, was that I think my previous job damaged us. We saw each other in passing as I came home and she headed to work, and then only got 1 day a week, which we frequently spent in a group setting, tabletop gaming, that we both enjoyed. Then BAM we had all this time alone together. Alot of my frustration was the fact that my wife basically ignored me and treated me like a stray dog the first bit, because we were so used to being apart. I think that the current economic climate, whereby a woman HAS to work to help support, is part of the reason why divorce rates are what? 70%+
I can SO identify with that. Except I don’t usually even get the in passing during the week. Now I’ve been working from home for a couple weeks, and get a similar effect. Of course, it has given me some exposure time too, so that is good.
In our case, though, part of my problem us getting her to believe she doesn’t have to work. She still works herself into a frazzle, leaving very little time or energy for intimacy.
02/27/2014 at 7:23 pmOh but it won’t stop there. Except for out first year of marriage, about three months in our 6th year, and about 6 months in our 12th year, my wife has never worked outside the home. She still always claims she is too tired. She’ll even go so far as to go to one of the kid’s rooms, find one thing she thinks is out of place and then yank everything out of every closet and drawer and throw it on the ground. Then spend ALL DAY “cleaning up” after the messy kids.
I kid you not. I’m always the first one up and get the kids up. I go to their rooms and it may be messy but not hip deep. Later that day, when the kids have been no where near their rooms, there she is shoving stuff off shelves and shaking thing out of drawers onto the floor. Then she clears out a patch in the back of the room and sit on the floor and starts sorting.
Then that night she is so tired and says, can we wait until tomorrow?
03/02/2014 at 5:05 amEldrin, I’m curious if you have had any success on the oral front as I know your customs have a heavy emphasis on that.
03/02/2014 at 1:12 pmStill no success on that one Tap. She is a tough nut to crack. I actually went ahead and dropped the third script, and kept just the slave girl script, and the oral script. I added about some lines to the oral script as well to help attack different angles and issues of the topic and it is now a 20 liner, but nice and rounded/thorough, but kept the 8-9 lines of the original and in their same order. The new lines were simply added near the top. It might take another 30 days of this for that barrier to break down.
The original 10 line script, while having a lot of repetitions, wasn’t thorough enough for such a resisted topic. For a wife who hates such an act, I think you really gotta attack it from every possible angle/hang up, and likely have to keep the stuff in place for 60 days.
the original 10 linse of the oral have been playing for about 30 days now. The new lines I added to the front of the script for about 4. The Slave girl, or what I call Happy Submissive Slave, has been playing unaltered since valentines, so about 16 days. In additon I only play the Oral one exclusively during the day, and both at night.
I have never felt the need to modify the slave one, it seems damn near perfect. She is not acting like a slave girl yet, obviously, but she is becoming gradually more concerned with my happiness, and wanting to be near me alot/highly affectionate and loving, hasn’t argued with me about anything really, and has been deferring to me in little ways.
At the 3 week mark on the slave script I will likely do some water testing, with some outright ordering and firmness.
Below is the new oral script, its bottom half is identical to my old one.
I know Eldrin wants his dick sucked every day. {{// Making Sure she knows that I want it}}
I want to suck Eldrin’s dick every day.
Eldrin has ate my pussy so many times. {{// Two lines of guilt tripping, but completely true}}
I owe Eldrin a blowjob.
I know Eldrin deserves a blowjob.
I always repay Eldrin with blow jobs when he eats my pussy. {{Possibly not heard, conditional, but the only one}}
I know All wives suck their husband’s dick.
I know blowjobs are natural and normal.
I am confident in my blow job skills.
I always initiate blow jobs on Eldrin every day.
I am comfortable sucking Eldrin’s dick.
I love sucking Eldrin’s cock every day.
Sucking Eldrin’s cock every day is my top priority.
Sucking Eldrin’s cock makes me so happy.
Sucking Eldrin’s cock brings me great pleasure.
I think Eldrin’s cock tastes and smells delicious.
I always swallow Eldrin’s delicious sperm. {{//Replaced the word with Sperm, its a little more clear}}
I think about sucking Eldrin’s cock all day long.
I always suck Eldrin’s cock at bedtime.
I must suck Eldrin’s cock right now.03/02/2014 at 1:13 pmI should also note, that having a script playing for 30 days unaltered was a something my impatient ass previously had yet to accomplish, so thats a plus on this front.
Another thing that might work in my favor. My wife seems to want to listen to the sounds of the ocean while I give her a massage at some point in the future. I am going to take that opportunity to make encode a copy of the oral file into ocean breeze on deck, and have her listen in headphones whilst I give her the massage.
After that I am going to try to get her to listen with headphones, or convince her to wear sleepphones at night while she sleeps. My own experience has shown that there is a significant difference when you listen to subs with headphones vs. some speaker. Headphones always seem to immerse me in the sub and it definitely gets heard better and taken up quicker.
03/04/2014 at 2:48 amInteresting. Your wife seems quite resistant. Maybe you can try offering something in exchange for a BJ. I think you need to bring the idea up to her, and then keep doing it from time to time. She will then connect her conscious mind to her subconscious new thoughts and eventually it should happen.
You need to know how she thinks of it. If she uses the word cock or dick, or both, or just one. My wife only uses the word dick so I went with that. Also how she phrases it, BJ, Blowjob, sucking your dick, go with that more. I think your affirmations need to be simpler. This is how I would word your script. I would drop the part of the guilt trip and you eating her pussy. I don’t think it’s effective:
Eldrin wants his dick sucked every day.
I want to suck Eldrin’s dick every day.
Eldrin deserves a blowjob.
All wives suck their husband’s dick.
Blowjobs are natural and normal.
I am confident in my blow job skills.
I always initiate blow jobs on Eldrin.
I am comfortable sucking Eldrin’s dick.
I love sucking Eldrin’s cock every day.
Sucking Eldrin’s cock every day is my top priority.
Sucking Eldrin’s cock makes me so happy.
Sucking Eldrin’s cock brings me great pleasure.
I think Eldrin’s cock tastes delicious.
I always swallow Eldrin’s delicious sperm.
I think about sucking Eldrin’s cock all day long.
I always suck Eldrin’s cock at bedtime.Another trick is to get her to want to do it by explaining how it’s more pleasurable to her. You might add some of the following:
Sucking Eldrin’s dick is my fantasy.
Sucking Eldrin’s dick gives me extreme pleasure.
Sucking Eldrin’s dick feels like ecstasy.
Sucking Eldrin’s dick makes me wet.
Sucking Eldrin’s dick fulfills me.
Happiness is sucking Eldrin’s dick.
My joy comes from sucking Eldrin’s dick.03/04/2014 at 4:36 amYa, I had the same thoughts today. And was dis satisfied with that line and took it out. As far as the latter part of your post, I already have a couple lines in there,
Sucking Eldrin’s cock makes me so happy.
Sucking Eldrin’s cock brings me great pleasure.As you know I don’t like to be repetitive without added meaning. But there are a few there I find interesting. Thx for the suggestions. Always helps to have another perspective to see stuff that’s only obvious once it’s pointed out.
Gonna sleep on it and think about it in the morning. Usually takes me the first few days of the month to wrangle my scripts and playlist into feeling right anyway.
03/11/2014 at 2:57 pm3/9:
I got to thinking about some discussions I have had with others here, and thought that maybe over time your girl might develop a resistance to the voice and lack of trust in it if you have constantly flip flopped and broached negative ideas then bailed.So I have made a short converter script that repeats 9-10 times in 10 minutes. Many of the lines are culled or modified from some of the best lines from Trainers script. It’s affirmations focus on ensuring trust in Amy’s voice, listening to it, and opening her subconscious to the voice, and being open to change in general.
Although 3 scripts is the absolute limit and not quite as effective as 2 generally, I believe this script aids the other two’s function that it won’t matter.
As far as wifely behavior, my wife continues to show me a general level of affection, and need to be physically close to me that she only displayed on previous months where I was playing some sort of His Happiness and submission playlist. My 19 line Slave script is probably to thank for that, as it’s all about pleasing me and submission.
I myself have been too busy with some house projects that I have been too tired to even make an effort for any sex. Our sex frequency the past month had been about once per week or less, but mostly because I have been too distracted and tired to push the issue, and I had a run in the past two weeks with a pulled groin and back(not fun in that combo)
Thankfully that stuff has mended, and tonite 3/11, I am going to push for some sex, and some oral, and see how she takes to being outright commanded.
03/13/2014 at 4:47 pm3/12:
Small update, but interesting. Last nite me and the wife got it on. She was compliant, but still won’t do oral. No biggie, I suspect that will change over the course of this month or so. The point is I am frequently letting her know I want it. In all other aspects of sex she is compliant to my wishes.The interesting part,while she was on top:
“You need to give me sex more often,” I said.
“No….” she says in a playful ton with a half-cracked grin.
“Do I need to be more forceful with you and just take it?” I replied.
“Is that what you want, for me to just dominate you?” I added.
“Yes. Thats my dream, it’s my fantasy,” She utters in sensual tone.This is almost directly quoting lines from my slave script about submission being a fantasy. I took that as a win and clear observational evidence that the script is being heard after all.
Now to just bide my time….
03/13/2014 at 4:50 pmI should also note that just two weeks ago, when casually talking to her about dominance play in the bedroom, like being tied up etc, she said she didn’t like that kind of stuff…
03/13/2014 at 5:41 pmCongratulations! Hopefully, the oral stuff is just on the horizion. It’s really great when scripts hit the right combo and things start to pop…
03/13/2014 at 8:35 pmCongrats man! Especially on the element of her repeating a line from your script. I find that in the semi-rare cases where an individual here reports that, that it is always very striking, and specific enough as to prove to be an exciting development.
Out of curiosity… the script that line came from… how long ago did you start playing that one specifically?
03/13/2014 at 10:18 pmCongratulations!
03/13/2014 at 10:55 pm@FaustsBoon said:
Out of curiosity… the script that line came from… how long ago did you start playing that one specifically?
As of yesterday, 27 days.
03/13/2014 at 10:55 pmGetting her to say something from the script, even if it isn’t exact wording, is definitive proof of concept of the subliminal process working.
03/13/2014 at 10:57 pmAlso, that script has not been altered or changed in the slightest the entire time.
03/15/2014 at 3:23 am@FaustsBoon said:
Out of curiosity… the script that line came from… how long ago did you start playing that one specifically?Congrats Eldrin. My wife has said stuff from my script exactly too.
I think one thing that I believe Eldrin has been doing is just making a straight single voiced subliminal, not sledgehammer, with Amy talking and in clear affirmations. It’s a method similar to what I do and I have to emphasize the importance of this so her subconscious clearly understands it.
FB,
It might be something you should think about. Given that we have been on here the same time, and your success is not as much as you want, it could be the method of how your customs are made. Your wife might respond better to single voiced customs where affirmations are clearly heard.
03/15/2014 at 8:01 amI have never seen evidence that Sledgehammers work better, although they do seem to work. Given that, it never made sense to me to spend the extra time making one, if its not going to be a significant improvement
03/15/2014 at 2:18 pmIn all honesty, this is the only website of subliminals that does a “sledgehammer.” Every other site just sells single voiced subliminals. It sounds good on paper, but I’d prefer sticking with what the rest of the subliminal community finds to be effective.
03/15/2014 at 2:58 pmGrain of salt warning here since my All-in-one is a sledgehammer.
I mentioned for a while to my wife, maybe three or four years ago, that I wanted her to do a strip-tease for me. Of course she thought it was stupid, selfish of me, “I can’t dance”, “why do you want to see a fat woman gyrate” and all manner of other comments that were not flattering to her and downright insulting to me. The bottom-line is, I just added it to the All-in-one file as a measure of success. After starting the subliminals I made sure to never mention it as something I wanted. I figured that since I had not asked for that in so long if it happened the behavior had to come solely from the sub.
But, after a year of playing it, my wife, without me mentioning it AT ALL for years, just last night, pushed me down on the bed, pulled a step stool out, stood up on it and proceeded to do the lamest strip-tease I have ever seen. But, it was the hottest strip-tease I have ever seen because she did it without asking, on her own, and obviously because she thought would like it. Right down to trying to make sounds that she associated with making her own sexy strip music accompaniment “chicka-wow-wow”.
Cheezy as her mouthing ’70’s stripper music was, I did, I liked it.
And the point is, the inception of the idea had to have come from the sledgehammer. I know that doesn’t necessarily prove they are better, but, it is pretty dramatic a result without having any other external input to synthesize the idea from. Though I do see results from the other of Trainer’s files and my other customs, the items I get the most success from are the ones from that All-in-one file which is my only sledge still in service.
03/15/2014 at 4:58 pm@J66R said:
Grain of salt warning here since my All-in-one is a sledgehammer.
I mentioned for a while to my wife, maybe three or four years ago, that I wanted her to do a strip-tease for me. Of course she thought it was stupid, selfish of me, “I can’t dance”, “why do you want to see a fat woman gyrate” and all manner of other comments that were not flattering to her and downright insulting to me. The bottom-line is, I just added it to the All-in-one file as a measure of success. After starting the subliminals I made sure to never mention it as something I wanted. I figured that since I had not asked for that in so long if it happened the behavior had to come solely from the sub.
But, after a year of playing it, my wife, without me mentioning it AT ALL for years, just last night, pushed me down on the bed, pulled a step stool out, stood up on it and proceeded to do the lamest strip-tease I have ever seen. But, it was the hottest strip-tease I have ever seen because she did it without asking, on her own, and obviously because she thought would like it. Right down to trying to make sounds that she associated with making her own sexy strip music accompaniment “chicka-wow-wow”.
Cheezy as her mouthing ’70’s stripper music was, I did, I liked it.
And the point is, the inception of the idea had to have come from the sledgehammer. I know that doesn’t necessarily prove they are better, but, it is pretty dramatic a result without having any other external input to synthesize the idea from. Though I do see results from the other of Trainer’s files and my other customs, the items I get the most success from are the ones from that All-in-one file which is my only sledge still in service.
What’s interesting is that a couple months after I STOPPED having affirmations about my wife shaving her pubic hair in scripts, she started doing it. I suppose sometimes the idea just gets planted, maybe associated with wanting to make us happy or something, and then springs up spontaneously when the files call for making us happier…?
03/16/2014 at 1:25 am@J66R said:
Grain of salt warning here since my All-in-one is a sledgehammer.
I mentioned for a while to my wife, maybe three or four years ago, that I wanted her to do a strip-tease for me. Of course she thought it was stupid, selfish of me, “I can’t dance”, “why do you want to see a fat woman gyrate” and all manner of other comments that were not flattering to her and downright insulting to me. The bottom-line is, I just added it to the All-in-one file as a measure of success. After starting the subliminals I made sure to never mention it as something I wanted. I figured that since I had not asked for that in so long if it happened the behavior had to come solely from the sub.
But, after a year of playing it, my wife, without me mentioning it AT ALL for years, just last night, pushed me down on the bed, pulled a step stool out, stood up on it and proceeded to do the lamest strip-tease I have ever seen. But, it was the hottest strip-tease I have ever seen because she did it without asking, on her own, and obviously because she thought would like it. Right down to trying to make sounds that she associated with making her own sexy strip music accompaniment “chicka-wow-wow”.
Cheezy as her mouthing ’70’s stripper music was, I did, I liked it.
And the point is, the inception of the idea had to have come from the sledgehammer. I know that doesn’t necessarily prove they are better, but, it is pretty dramatic a result without having any other external input to synthesize the idea from. Though I do see results from the other of Trainer’s files and my other customs, the items I get the most success from are the ones from that All-in-one file which is my only sledge still in service.
Well, I’ve had good success with His Happiness sledge in the past. However, what I suspect is there are instances when the affirmations are clearly heard. I believe this is what the subconscious picks up on. I actually think if you made your long custom just a single voiced subliminal, you might see more or quicker success. I think you did say it’s been a year playing that one file. Well that’s a long time in subliminal terms.
03/16/2014 at 2:20 amWithout a test group running the same script, a sledge version, and a single voiced version, we will never know.
03/16/2014 at 7:27 pmEldrin’s right.
What I really need is two wives.
Then we can get some real science going.03/17/2014 at 12:21 am@J66R said:
Eldrin’s right.
What I really need is two wives.
Then we can get some real science going.Actually, that idea may hold more merrit than it seems to on the surface.
If for instance a group of die hard members were willing to add identical lines to scripts to test them out all at the same time, then you could have your multiple groups of wives for science’s sake (my sweet pea would, of course, be in the control group).
03/17/2014 at 12:22 amI don’t know if RICO would apply…?
03/17/2014 at 7:49 pm@J66R said:
Eldrin’s right.
What I really need is two wives.
Then we can get some real science going.Why stop at two?
03/17/2014 at 9:16 pmYeah, the larger the representative sample the more accurate the results, right?
03/17/2014 at 9:17 pmAh…and that’s where using the subliminals on coworkers can come in handy.
Need more subjects to help make the science more…uh…scientific.03/30/2014 at 12:50 pmNothing much to report. Still no oral, not worried about it too much. I am distracted alot from job searching and house projects. The distraction has made me more tired, and less apt to be a horndog, which has helped with my patience. The only thing I am going to change is when the scripts get played.
Going to play slave script exclusively during the day, and the oral one only at night, to provide more focus and repeats.Going to look into a daytime delivery system so I can have my iPad. I have been using it during the day, so mostly just night time play has been going on. I like the idea of playing a script for day, and a different script at night.
Attitude wise, my wife is very affectionate, and compliant. She tends to agree with me most of the time, and does not argue with me. The last discussion we had, was while I getting ready for a job search, because she has been letting nosy people at work get to her and cast doubt on our relationship, make me out to be some bum. I told her about all the things they used to say about her that were negative, that I never told her. At first she misunderstood why I was telling her this, but I cleared up the point that I was illustrating that these people are nosy, judgemental, and negative and just want something to gossip about. She seemed to understand and calmed down quickly. I reassured her by letting her know of a job I was getting ready to apply for that I had a good chance of getting due to previous area of expertise, and informed her of my plan for her to leave her workplace after maternity leave, so she can get away from that cesspool of judgement and gossip she calls a job(I used to work there too, one of the many reasons I left). She calmed down very quickly and did not run off crying, or do any of the other things she normally does to sabotage a discussion. And thats exactly what I would classify it as, a discussion and not an argument.
Myself I have been getting good effects from my own scripts. They have helped me maintain some semblance of confidence and peace of mind despite being attacked from every angle with doubt and judgement and bad tidings. Still it ticks me off to think that in the eyes of most people, I am nothing more than $$. Oh well, at least I know who my REAL friends are. And if any of those friends should ever happen to go through something like this, I will be able to advise them.
03/30/2014 at 1:11 pmSince our group here is our own little “Project Mayhem” of sorts, let me just remind you that…
1. You are not your paycheck. You are not your IKEA furniture. You are not your iPad… etc….
No one gets to make you think your life and value comes down to how much money you make. As a man, part of your purpose is also loving and protecting your people, etc… and I know you well enough to know that is something you’re deeply concerned with, and doing well at.2. We’ve all been through that. Our ridiculous hyper-capitalism-on-steroids, culture has trained the stupid among us to act like worker ants, and think as little as possible. We’ve all been through stretches, i’m guessing, where our financial worth doesn’t equal the heart we’ve put in, our efforts, and so on. In those times, you take a breath, and get by with a little help from your friends (and family, etc…)
03/30/2014 at 1:20 pmThanks for the kind words Faust. But I wouldn’t trade the last 7 months for anything. I have learned who my real friends were, and I have found an inner strength that was even stronger than I thought I had before. I have learned to be far more frugal and become much happier with less, and simpler life. Despite all the negativity, I have learned much and am better for it, and I am generally happier overall than I was last year or any year before it.
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