Then and Now – Countering societal pressure

[Fizbin]

07/14/2013 at 11:43 am

As several folks discovered over the recent holidays, even if you’re making great progress at establishing new attitudes and behaviors, it can all be brought to a halt – even reversed – if your wife/girlfriend/etc… is re-immersed in the environment that created the old ones. One of Trainer’s older files, “break up”, appears to be one attempt to address that. In this case, it attempts to make the subject lose interest in contacting their family. For various reasons, I suspect that many of us find that to be an unacceptable outcome.

What we really need is some way to boost her immunity to falling back into her old ways, even if exposed to them for a while during a family visit. I’m still thinking about the kinds of affirmations that can do that, hopefully without “breaking the rules” for effective statements. If anyone has suggestions, feel free to post them in reply to this message.

[FaustsBoon]

07/14/2013 at 3:12 pm

How about statements such as….

“My husband and I share values”

“I love the life my husband and I are building”

“My parents(sisters… insert trouble group here) and I have different value”

“My husband’s values are best.”

“I want the life my husband and I are building”

Something like that… though with the weight perhaps shifted even further, via non-negative statements, to reinforcing the idea that one’s wife has different ideas than those around her.

Maybe reinforced further with, “I love having unique beliefs from my parents/sisters/friends”  or “Thinking differently from my parents is ok.”

[tonguester4_69]

07/14/2013 at 3:35 pm

My first thought is something along the lines of the Master’s Opinion script.The only reason I’ve never tried it is because my wife is only now beginning to view me in that role, and because it doesn’t really address the specific problem of social pressure, only family.For me, I’ve been attacking this problem through my faith,since the Bible does teach, that a husband is the wife’s authority on earth, second only to him.I think this is worth a lot of consideration, as I believe this is far more widespread a problem than most realize. I can’t imagine how to attack this other than through faith, since as Christians we are called to be different.                                                                                                             

[tonguester4_69]

07/14/2013 at 3:46 pm

How about something like, “I love be different from society” “my husband is unique, and different” Then build on that, to something like “Only my husband’s opinion matters”

[Tap]

07/14/2013 at 8:42 pm

It does seem difficult to not use a negative with that kind of script, but tonguester’s examples are good. Consider:

“I only care to follow my husband’s viewpoint on how I should be.”
“The opinions of my family and friends are insignificant.”
“The opinions of my family and friends are trivial.”
“My family’s opinions on how I should act are worthless.”

[Fizbin]

07/14/2013 at 11:01 pm

My first thought is something along the lines of the Master’s Opinion script.The only reason I’ve never tried it is because my wife is only now beginning to view me in that role, and because it doesn’t really address the specific problem of social pressure, only family.For me, I’ve been attacking this problem through my faith,since the Bible does teach, that a husband is the wife’s authority on earth, second only to him.I think this is worth a lot of consideration, as I believe this is far more widespread a problem than most realize. I can’t imagine how to attack this other than through faith, since as Christians we are called to be different.                                                                                  

I’ve put together a husband/wife viewpoint file somewhat based on a combo of that and Decision Maker, but haven’t played it much because it still isn’t quite what I’m looking for.

As a stock file, I think Husband’s Authority comes closer to what you’re talking about, but without the faith-based aspect. I’d like to incorporate some kind of a rejection of the peer-pressure values, but where I’m having trouble is avoiding negative statements for that.

[Fizbin]

07/14/2013 at 11:09 pm

It does seem difficult to not use a negative with that kind of script, but tonguester’s examples are good. Consider:
“I only care to follow my husband’s viewpoint on how I should be.”
“The opinions of my family and friends are insignificant.”
“The opinions of my family and friends are trivial.”
“My family’s opinions on how I should act are worthless.”

Yeah, that’s what I’ve been trying to avoid.

[FaustsBoon]

07/15/2013 at 2:02 pm

@Fizbin said:

It does seem difficult to not use a negative with that kind of script, but tonguester’s examples are good. Consider:
“I only care to follow my husband’s viewpoint on how I should be.”
“The opinions of my family and friends are insignificant.”
“The opinions of my family and friends are trivial.”
“My family’s opinions on how I should act are worthless.”

Yeah, that’s what I’ve been trying to avoid.

 

Well, especially as several articles have suggested that the subconscious mind MAY invert all negative statements…. That extends beyond the words “no” and “not” by my estimation.  As such, “insignificant” might be heard as “significant”, worthless as “worthy”, etc…

I think the key will be making entirely positive statements enforcing the opinions that should matter, etc…  and not challenging the norms from the side of disarming the ones you don’t want.

[trainer81]

07/15/2013 at 3:00 pm

If using negative messages will help you in your outcome I’d say use them.  When I wrote the break up subliminal though I was still careful making sure what was said wouldn’t effect far as what’s said.

How about this statement,

My sister is untruest worthy.

Use common sense and you’ll be fine.

[Tap]

07/15/2013 at 10:45 pm

Well yes, either way you put it, it would be difficult not to use negative statements. However, I think as long as you don’t use “no” or “not” it might be ok. As trainer said, untrustworthy or worthless seem ok to me.

Look at the below script from a not smoking subliminal off a subliminal website.

I am free from my smoking addiction
I have overcome my smoking habit
My willpower is rock solid
I breathe easier and feel healthier every day
I am more motivated than every to stay off cigarettes
I stay strong against cravings
I always resist the temptation to smoke
I easily resist my cravings
I have quit smoking forever
I have clean and healthy lungs and love being smoke free

As you can see, the word smoking is included but they don’t use no statements. Of course, I don’t know if it works for smoking, but it’s a good website so I trust it. I’ll link it just so it’s not a copyright issue:

http://www.subliminalmp3s.com/subliminal-stop-smoking

You probably could model something about societal pressure similar to the above.

[FaustsBoon]

07/15/2013 at 11:45 pm

Interesting website….  I’m not so sure I would take them seriously though….  They apparently sell a subliminal files to “make you telepathic” and another that teaches you to play guitar….   

Yeah….

[Tap]

07/16/2013 at 1:35 am

Yea I don’t know about those. I used a few off of their website for self improvement, and have seen great results. It’s why I trust them. Some topics like the above probably won’t work though.

[trainer81]

07/16/2013 at 2:29 pm

How about,

“Cigarettes are bad for me”

” I hate cigarettes”

That be a strong message right there.

Yeah that is an interesting subliminal site, just stay clear of ebay lol