talking directly to subconscious

[adrz74]

09/11/2014 at 1:12 pm

As mentioned in my other thread, I’ve been using mark Cunningham’s technique to hypnotize my wife. Last night, I tried something different…

As responsive as my wife has been, there were a few sticking points that were bothering me, namely the fact that she would not obey my suggestion to sleep through the night. I tried four nights in a row with slightly different wording each time and nothing worked. Finally, I recalled another school of thought in hypnosis called “global suggestion.” (Links below.)

This method requires you to talk directly to the subconscious. I figured I’d talk to my wife’s subconscious (SC) and see why she wasn’t sleeping.

Overall, it was pretty trippy. I’ve spent almost three weeks talking to my wife in trance and she’s highly responsive to everything. She enjoys obeying me and on a few occasions when I’ve confused her, she gets visibly frustrated because she doesn’t know how to do what I’ve asked and doesn’t want to disappoint me.

Compared to that, her SC is far from responsive. As you can read in the links below, the SC seems to be a completely different persona from the conscious. At one point I told her to open her eyes and look at me. When my wife is in regular trance, she does that automatically, and she looks rather glazed over.

The SC flat out refused to open her eyes, began thrashing around on the bed, and when she finally did… well, if looks could kill… seriously, it was straight out of the exorcist.

I get the impression that the SC thinks she is a bad person. When I asked about the sleeping issue, she said my wife has too much stress. I asked from work? She said yes, and then added, that she (SC) causes her (wife) stress and proceeded to cry.

Despite all this, I asked the SC if she were capable of making wife sleep through the night, ignoring all distractions. SC said yes. I asked her, as a favor to me, to have wife sleep through the night and she agreed.

I took her back into regular trance and then out of trance, which was probably a mistake. The combative nature of the SC probably increased her tension, so she was a bit confused when she came up. She also didn’t remember any of the talk I had with the SC. And, she was confused as to why her mascara had run all over. Note to self: if you make the SC cry, clean up the tears. Anyway, before she said anything, I said it was time for sleeping, and she rolled over and slept.

This morning, she reported sleeping very well, BUT she had extremely vivid and scary dreams. So now I want to punch the SC in the face! That’s such bullshit! And even as I’m going this, I know it sounds incredibly farfetched, but I swear it’s all true.

One thing I’m VERY curious about is how these scripts work from her point of view. I’m not sure how to do that just yet, because I will come across as manipulative and right now, I’m trying to gain her trust. But rest assured, I hope to get some answers and then we should have a much better idea of how to use subliminals.

What a night…

[adrz74]

09/11/2014 at 1:30 pm

Links:
http://bdsmhypnosis.blogspot.com/2007/11/whats-happening-here.html?m=1
http://globalsuggestion.com

Also see global suggestion group on fetlife.com

[Fizbin]

09/12/2014 at 3:45 am

I looked a that technique a while ago. I thought it sounded a bit far fetched, but plausible. But as with any hypnosis (or other meddling with the subconscious), caution is the first order of the day.

I wish you well…

[trainer81]

09/12/2014 at 3:32 pm

Sure if Global Suggestion works for your wife that’s great! I wish you the best of luck…

Now the Dream Girls subliminal messages I wrote work like thoughts. I made it so it seems like these subliminal messages speak directly to the subconscious mind to where she will accept these messages as her own thoughts.

The more she hears them, the more she will think she’s thinking this.

Like, I am submissive.

Dream Girls, create your own subliminal messages eBooks will show you how to make your own subliminal the way I write and record them for the members area.

Trainer81

[keithmuller]

11/21/2014 at 1:17 pm

I find this whole thread, and line of thought to be incredibly interesting. Getting your slave to be moulded and shaped to be the exact person you want is both fascinating, and mind blowing….

My question is, how do you get her to go into the trance state? I have looked at the site where you provided the links, and looked at all the downloads. There is nothing there that allows you, as her Master to be the one to trigger the trance, or to be able to get to the SC ,so as to get the SC to work alongside my plans and thoughts.

If you have any guidance on this I would be very appreciative.

[LordIceWing]

11/22/2014 at 2:06 am

Well, I’ve played (and will again) with Hypnosis with my slavewife

When one tries to go VERY deep, there isn’t a lot of surety when it comes to what’s going to happen…

Dealing with the subconscious mind, in my opinion, is much like trying to work on on poorly documented programming code WHILE IT’S RUNNING.

Your best bet is to go VERY slow, and make damn sure you know what you’re doing before you do it….

You don’t know what landmines are in there (And there ARE landmines)

Since it’s been so long since I induced her into trance (over a decade), I’m starting VERY slowly (relaxation only at first, no triggers or conditioning till I have gotten her relatively deep, and preferably can induce a ‘forget this happened’ command) although I do want to use a subliminal for a while first to acclimatecondition her subconscious to it first.

[trainer81]

11/22/2014 at 2:45 am

This is why I started playing around and studying Hypnosis And started the Hypno Membership, a new Dream Girls service.
Sometime in 2015 I plan to add more eBooks for training girls with the use of Hypnosis which will be part of Hypno Membership.

Trainer81

[keithmuller]

11/22/2014 at 3:20 am

Hi Trainer
As you are aware I am a member of the hypno group. It would be really great to have a special hypno program that will allow us to program certain “functions” into our girls, to make them more into the slaves we need. This would have to be done with extreme care, and, we would need to know what we can do, and what we cant. Maybe the more experienced members can to a tutorial for us newbies, so that we can get up to speed??

[trainer81]

11/22/2014 at 1:01 pm

Sounds good… Maybe something that will make her into wanting to be a slave how about.

[keithmuller]

11/23/2014 at 3:30 am

Yes, and to also put things into her subconscious that make her crave the experience. I saw a post where part of the orgasm made her feel it in her lips and tongue. I would want to include the nipples in that, and to make the feeling in her pussy explode through her, so she craves the mere thought of getting back there.

More ideas along this sort of thinking would be great, a way to make the slave experience intoxicating, like a drug.