Submissive Slut Training

[Qwerty]

05/10/2013 at 9:35 pm

After ready the forums I thought I might inject some new blood into the conversation. I am like many of you wanting a more submissive wife, whom I am not trying to have to battle every day for supremacy.
I joined about a month ago and like some of you I was skeptical. Also like many of you I started by blasting every change I wanted from her all at once and got nowhere. Let Mr now say that the forums have been very helpful in both correcting and directing my efforts so thank you to all that have posted.
So based upon my reading, I chose to change one thing my wife does that has a physical manifestation while also adjusting her behavior to that of being more submissive.
The one thing I decide to change was to present her breast to me. The reason I chose this was two fold. First is something that my wife does when she has had too much to drink, so I know it is something she would do, it is just she choose not too. The second is that I love playing with my wife’s breasts and that if I can past her initial protests she becomes much more submissive and open to sex.
Before starting the subliminals she would always were a bra, come to bed in head to toe granny pajamas, complain anytime I so much as touched her breasts outside of sex, and give me looks of disgust anytime I talked about her breasts. Now after 3 weeks, when we sit down in the evening she can not wait to get her bra off, she has start wear silk and lace night wear that amply shows off her breasts, she openly jokes with me about how her toys need attention and she will find excuses to rub up onto me so I can feel her breasts. The clincher for me that is working has happened the past 2 nights when she has come to bed her breasts have repeatedly “fallen out”.
Now the subliminals I am using are HH and one I made myself that encourages my wife to expose her breasts to me. Now that I am seeing success I am thinking of sluttifying my wife. This is because she thinks she is acting slutty if she htas sex with me more than once a week and if she has too much to drink and does anything but the missionary position. She seems to have the desire to be adventurous in sex and to be submissive during drunk sex (she often puts her hands above her head and becomes more aroused when I hold her hand there), but she is hung up on the perception that they are slutty actions and she does not want to be seen as a slut.
I look forward to any comments or recommendations.

[FaustsBoon]

05/10/2013 at 10:05 pm

Hey Jason,

Welcome, and congratulations on the early success. It seems like you and I both represent some of the faster transformations (or beginnings of them) here. I’d love to hear more details about which files you used (rain? silent?), and how often you played them. The more information we collect the better for others.

It seems to be, a real key item might be the combination of a sledgehammer and a small compliment of other well-written files. You played those two, whereas I used LHO Husband, STW, and Wife CS, initially to great effect.

I made a hard and fast rule to never use more than three files at a time (IE, keep playlists under say, 40 minutes), for maximum looping/reinforcement of select ideas), and likewise maintained any given play-list as long as possible (ideally 30 days-ish) before changing too frequently.

I don’t suppose you would like to share any general ideas of what was in the custom script? If it is having as profound an effect as it seems, it might be a great one!

Also, if you don’t mind me asking, and as an extension of my “research”, would you say you communicated what you wanted to change, in any way with your wife? Did you reinforce early successes? Did you outright say what you would like from her, at any point?

[Qwerty]

05/10/2013 at 11:02 pm

Faustboon I use the silent files. The one thing I did do different with my own sledge was to have an overall high amplification and I had the crowd (third person script) at a slight lower amplification then the I script. I have not actively sort to elicite any of the desired responses, but when she started regressing (she started not to come and sit with me without her bra) I simply suggested she take it off and assisted her with the removal and comment on how much better she must feel with it off. But over all the changes have been of her own doing. The reason I think I am having such early success is that the script exaggerates things she did when we met and things she does when she is drunk, so she has a deep lying tendency towards the less extreme actions (ideally she will present her breasts to me to play with at my leisure) .
As for the script I will try and find it and post it, but I am not sure how well it will work for others as I tailored it to illicit responses I know she has ( my wife is very sexually aroused by her breasts, she can even orgasm just by having her breasts played with, intact since playing the subliminal she has nearly come twice from me playing with her breasts) using wording she uses when she is drunk (I.e. tits instead of breasts etc).
I have seen a desire for a libido increasing subliminal, and I too am looking for something like this so I have been play with a script that I am hoping I can make over the weekend. If I have as much success with this script as I did with the previous one I will definitely share it.

[Tap]

05/10/2013 at 11:30 pm

Congrats on the early success. I was thinking I should start making my own. I too feel there should be a libido enhancing subliminal. I did get one off of another website, but haven’t really been using it. I was hoping that trainer would add that sex toy sledgehammer without the hypnosis part which I think would be effective.

[FaustsBoon]

05/10/2013 at 11:35 pm

Something you said really struck me. An edge we might have both had was that the behavior we’re looking for was something we’ve already seen our wives demonstrate. Especially while dating, my wife also used to tend toward being much more submissive sexually. I think those trying to introduce BRAND new behavior obviously have it much harder.

Anyway, continued good luck to you man! Be good to her, and respect her as a person throughout this process, and hopefully you’ll both find yourselves in a happier place, in life, going forward!

[FaustsBoon]

05/10/2013 at 11:44 pm

@Tap You know… I agree 100%. The hypnosis file has been a joke, and its a shame to have the related Sledgehammer locked away behind it. As I said elsewhere… that hypnosis file is about to be a very, very, expensive sold-seperately product. Its a shame we’re without something that seems so logical, and simple, file-wise, while things like that exist.

[Tap]

05/10/2013 at 11:57 pm

Well, I think the issue a lot of men will have with the hypnosis file is that the wife has to be aware that it’s a “relaxation” file and willing to listen. Honestly, I think most of the people that use the subliminals on this website use the silents and their wives have no idea they’re even playing in the background.

Because of that, I don’t think there will be much success in use of the product. Besides, listening to that hypnosis file rested for 30 mins vs listening to the sledgehammer for 9 hours while asleep? Obviously to me, the latter as a sledgehammer alone would be better due to the repetition.

[mastermandprincess]

05/11/2013 at 1:05 am

Hey princess and I are still busy with our exams (XD we’re the youngin’s of the group) but I’m keeping tabs here so I don’t have a lot of reading to do when I come back, and I thought I’d take this quick opportunity to welcome you to the community.

[limited1]

05/11/2013 at 2:00 am

Welcome to the forum. We look forward to hearing about your successes and the mechanics of how you got to that success. Look forward to hearing more!

[Tap]

05/11/2013 at 3:18 am

Quote from mastermandprincess on May 11, 2013, 01:05
Hey princess and I are still busy with our exams (XD we’re the youngin’s of the group)

I finished college awhile ago, but I am only 31. Can’t get started too early on that wife training.

[FaustsBoon]

05/11/2013 at 2:35 pm

Hey hey! I’m not THAT old. :p I’m 33, and the wife is 27… And my age realistically should be reduced by 10-15 years, as I make video-games for a living, and paint and play with little plastic miniature soldiers…. :p

[Qwerty]

05/11/2013 at 7:31 pm

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome and the advice.
Here is the script I use with my wife

I love my breasts
I love the way my breasts feel
I love the way my breasts feel when my husband plays with them

I want my husband to touch my breasts
I am very aroused when my husband touches my breasts
I am in sexual bliss when my husband touches my breasts
I moan in sexual bliss when my husband touches my breasts

I want my husband to touch my breasts more often

I love my breasts
I love the way my breasts feel
I love the way my breasts feel when my husband plays with them

I need my husband to touch my breasts
I am very aroused when my husband touches my breasts
I am very horny when my husband touches my breasts
I moan with horniness when my husband touches my breasts

I crave for my husband to touch my breasts more often

The rougher my husband is with my breasts the hornier I get
Thinking about my husband playing with my breasts makes me horny
I am getting hornier right now just thinking about my husband playing with my breasts

I often expose my breasts to my husband when we are alone
I go to bed topless so my husband can play with my breasts

I want my husband to play with my breast right now

I need my husband to play with my breasts right now

I crave for my husband to play with my breasts right now

[Tap]

05/14/2013 at 3:51 am

That sounds like a decent script. All in the first person and present tense. So you played that for 3 weeks and started seeing results?

I started making my own custom subliminals to see how it works out. I noticed the on trainer’s scripts also. I get that it’s saying to wait 5 seconds between statements. I’m not so sure that’s necessary. Instead what I did was separate each statement by 1 second. After listening to my script on the computer, it seemed like the voice was talking to fast without a pause between each statement. My hope is that each statement is said slowly and clearly for her to hear with the 1 second in between each statement.

[Fizbin]

05/14/2013 at 7:32 am

Make sure you have your software set to respect XML instructions in the text stream. (My software has an explicit checkbox for that…). You should also be able to control the speed of the reading.

[Qwerty]

05/14/2013 at 2:44 pm

Tap I started seeing results in about 2 weeks ( taking off her bra when we sat down for the night) and she has not done everything in the script yet,though she continues to have her breast “accidently”fall out of her top. The script was my first and so I followed trainer’s examples.
I have also started a sledge libido script and maybe seeing results though one night of desired behavior does not make a success. If the results continue and progress online with the script I will be sure to share.
One side note, I did manipulate the voice in pitch and speed for my first script so that it sounded as close to my wife’s voice as possible.

[ElChilango]

05/14/2013 at 11:05 pm

Hi jasont0515.
Could you give more information about why you have a high overall amplification when you do your own files?

[Tap]

05/15/2013 at 12:05 am

Interesting on manipulating the pitch. I did put the speed at -6 so it was read slower in textaloud. I was thinking about doing a sledgehammer. When I watched the video on how to make one, I heard how it sounds like with all the voices talking over each other. It made me think about how effective it would be. Some of my subliminal research said not to play subliminals over each other because the subconscious would not clearly hear what’s being said. However, I’ve had good success with trainer’s sledgehammers so not sure what’s true.

[Fizbin]

05/15/2013 at 11:36 am

I also wonder about what I’ve called the “There is no Sanctuary” effect in some (most? All? ) of the sledgehammers I’ve decoded. Granted, the human mind has an amazing ability to filter out what it “wants” to hear from a very noisy environment. Perhaps the muddle actually helps the subconscious “focus” on the words in some way, similar to the ability of white noise in general allows actual communication to come through better.

[Qwerty]

05/15/2013 at 2:37 pm

I have read that “sledge hammers” use a peer pressure effect. With this in mined I built a sledge that has multiple voices talking in second (you) and third person (name/her) and one track that is slightly higher in amplification that is in first person (I) with idea that her innervoice is overhearing a peer group affirming what her inner voice is stating. We are able to distinguish and queue on our name and the associated conversation no matter what what the room noise is. I would think it would be simular for subliminals.

[limited1]

05/15/2013 at 7:36 pm

Fiz, FB, jason0515,Tap1,

I haven’t made any custom sledgehammers yet, so I’m soaking in all the knowledge from people that have…I’m using Textalound and Audacity for my software….Questions on:

1.) Higher amplification – Does one accomplish that by just changing the system volume in Text aloud? If not how do you change? I used 30 for the system volume on the two customs that I put together. What does everyone recommend for the base/regular and higher amplification (assuming system voume changes amplification)?

2.) Pitch– I currently have the pitch set at zero. What does everyone recommend for different pitch levels? If you adjust it higher, what type of accent are you getting? Same question for lower pitch ?

I really appreciate all the interaction on these forum threads….I’m learning alot from everyone’s comments on the timeframes, wording, tenses, putting customs together, etc., and of of course the END results that everyone is having. Thanks !

[Tap]

05/15/2013 at 8:31 pm

I had my volume at the highest 255 on Text Aloud. In the videos, Trainer doesn’t specify what volume so I just left it like that. I don’t know if that’s how to make a higher amplification. My pitch was 0 also, but I set my speed at -6 so the voice would be slower.

I’m curious how everyone else does it. The goal is to make the best quality customs. Also for jason, for the sledgehammers, where did you get the extra voices? Did you pay $30 to buy Textaloud and it came with more voices? I purchased the cestral Amy voice and that cost $30 alone. Kind of steep. Are there ways to get more voices for less?

[Qwerty]

05/15/2013 at 9:35 pm

Tap you adjust the amplification in the audacity program. Same tab as where you do the niquist.

As for voices I fiddle with the pitch and speed of Anna to get different sounding voices. It is not perfect but it is cheap.

[Tap]

05/15/2013 at 9:52 pm

Wow, smart move on the voices. I didn’t think about that. I’ll try it if I make a sledgehammer.

[limited1]

05/16/2013 at 2:37 pm

Jason – what level did you adjust the amplification to in Audacity? What different levels did you use on the pitch? Asking since you seem to have figured it out, and we could all benefit from it from a best practies stand point. I appreciate it.

[Qwerty]

05/16/2013 at 3:42 pm

Limited, for amplification I am still experimenting but I have gone as high as -20 with only minor noticeable volume change (clicking becomes a little more discernable). Generally I have been placing the “I” track at -25 and the crowd at -30 as prior to niquist application this spread sounds the most like a conversation in a crowded room to me.

As for pitch for voices I have gone as high as 20 and as low as -20 but a -10 to 10 range is were I have generally playing in.

Hope this helps. As I said I am in the experiment stages to find out what works but am happy to share what I have done.

[Qwerty]

05/19/2013 at 3:14 pm

So this week I fell into the trap of being unfocused impatient and to be honest greedy as I wanted all the changes all at once rather than one small change at a time. I made multiple customs with various ideas and rotated them in and out without reason. I became drunk on my early success. This lead to no progress and even a slight back sliding on my previous success.
I think I am going do the one week rest I see most of you do from time to time and use that time to develop a long term strategy and a step by step progression to that goal. Then develop or use existing subliminals to get there. The idea will be each one will lay the foundation for the next.

[Tap]

05/20/2013 at 12:10 am

I’ve been guilty of the same thing switching subliminals. From what I’ve learned, I really don’t think a week rest is necessary. For subliminals to work the most effectively, total immersion is best or have her listening to it over and over. If you stick to one or two subliminals and play it often, then it will work.

I think 3 is the max you should use for good effects. I myself use my own personal subliminals for self improvement from a different website. I first used one and played it over and over and it really worked for me. Then I got a 2nd one, different topic and I felt the difference when I played that. It was when I got my 3rd one and tried looping all 3, the intended effects weren’t the same. In fact, I think I kind of lost what I had gained from the first 2 topics.

I’ve gone back to just playing 2 subliminals at a time for myself looped and am seeing improvement again. Sticking to a few over and over is the best way. I think it’s because when you have 3 or more, not all get enough playing time for your subconscious, or maybe the subconscious feels overloaded.

For this reason I just made one ultimate custom subliminal with everything I wanted that lasts 10 minutes, and will loop that for my wife. While it might be too much, my hope is the repetition will overcome the different topics.

[Fizbin]

05/20/2013 at 10:00 am

The key with longer programs, whether one or many files, is to either keep them directly related (preferably with similar affirmations), and/or make the affirmations form a progressive train of thought.

[mastermandprincess]

05/21/2013 at 2:48 am

[ Hey Jason.

First of all, I wanted to say don’t feel too bad about your mistake. Just live with it and correct it. I can tell you in princesses 7 year training leading up to subliminal training we made a lot of mistakes, and that greed is something you’re responsible of keeping in check when training a sub. We all slip up, recovery is the important part. As I advocate everywhere on the forum the best thing to do is to own up to your mistakes, make sure she understands you have done so and what you’re going to change so she can trust you moving forward (however this manifests as I trust the subliminals are covert), and moving forward at a steady pace.

For example, princess has consciously thought of herself as a slave for about 5 years. I’m starting her on very basic things that she already consciously accepts. Slave Idenitity, Happy Slave girl, Submissive thoughts, etc. and varying it up every month. This, to be honest bores me. Subliminals and mind control are my fetish, and I want to have her on custom animal training right now (that was my plan from day one actually :/ till I was corrected) and really heavy mind control stuff. However, I think I’m going to be taking it slow for at least 3-4 months. Until a foundation is sturdy and we can move on.

Unlike some of you guys I can’t speak to the customs as I won’t be going gold for a while (partly to stop the temptation of going onto my wilder projects) but I think that custom breast thing you’ve been doing has worked wonders for your sex life so I wouldn’t stop that, and it shows some guided experimentation in the beginning can be good if you do it right. Bottom line, It’s a great thing that your wife likes to be touched now! Don’t take off whatever did that. But go slow, at a steady pace, and don’t move up to the next floor of subliminal training until your sure it’s foundations are 100% complete.

The reason the breast thing worked out (I’m guessing) is breasts are a very naturally sexual part of a woman, and her resistance on this was probably shame of sex in general. With how quickly she accepted the file it shows this is something she wasn’t opposed to, but whatever you made the mistake with I’m guessing it was something she was opposed to. You can’t make somebody do something they don’t want, only slowly change their perception of their own tastes.

Wishing you the best in the future. Slow and steady wins the race.

EDIT: forgot to mention that I also think a weeks rest is unnesicary if you take it at a steady pace from here on out.]

[Tap]

05/21/2013 at 3:03 am

I think that any subliminal with a good script, in time should work on any person. If the person kind of believes it already, it will work faster. For jason, his wife might have wanted to expose her breasts already and the subliminal reinforced her thinking. That’s probably why the results were fast.

However, if the subject doesn’t necessarily believe the script, that’s when it might take longer for her to assimilate the statements into her own thinking and accept them as true. Most people don’t see themselves as slaves, so a slave file for my wife at least, would take a long time to work. I think my problem with the subliminals and others too is that, right when there’s a setback or my wife gives me attitude, I’m quick to change my files to something that I think is going to work better. I’m trying hard to stick to one now and will wait it out.

[Qwerty]

05/24/2013 at 4:14 pm

Thank you all for your encouragement and feed back. Based upon some of the comments here I have continued with HH my breast script and a generic arousal script I made. The most interesting reaction this week was that when I stopped the breast script my wife started wearing her bra around me again, but once I restarted the breast subliminal mid week, within 30 mins her bra was off. I am also seeing early signs that the arousal script is have an affect on her dreams as she is having sex dreams (she moans and groans, bucks her hips and smells like sex during the night, then blushes in the morning when I ask her what was she dreaming about). Hopefully the arousal script will manifest out side of her dreams.

[mastermandprincess]

05/25/2013 at 12:57 am

Glad the new regiment is working well. I don’t remember if it was in this blog but somewhere on the forum I was talking about levels and foundations you want to reach before moving on. In your wifes case I can see 2 core levels you should be focused on right now, the first is being comfortable with her body and her own sexuality (this is not a part of her yet I think because of her reversion when you took off the playlist) and the second is submissiveness. There are lots of great submissive foundation files here, but make sure you start with the basic ones and the ones you think will work for your wife. When you can take off a file and her behavior stays the same, generally it’s safe to say that the foundation is complete and you can move onto the next one.

The arousal file sounds like it’s doing it’s job, make sure you do yours, touch her, flirt with her both asleep and awake. See how she responds. You want to get her to a place where she welcomes your touch and advances.

[Qwerty]

06/11/2013 at 7:42 pm

So just a quick update. Seeing some speratic results. 2 weeks ago we had sex at my incessants, which she happily agreed but then one we started she did not feel like it anymore. Not sure what to make of it.
My wife has been laying next to me, snuggling throughout the night. She had mentioned a couple of nights ago that the snuggling made her feel relaxed and secure. She has also been wearing less and less as time passes and intact came to bed naked a couple of nights ago though the past couple of night she has come to bed with something on. Two steps forward and one step back.
Finally today my wife sent me a text today letting me know she had started her period and that she was sad she would not be able to “service” me tonight. First off my wife never texts me about sex and she has never used the word “service” when talking about sex. Very incouraging.
My play list right now is submissive wife, custom naked file, and a custom arousal/sex file.

[Tap]

06/11/2013 at 11:20 pm

It looks like your custom sex file is working a bit. I’m curious, how many affirmations does your sex custom have? Also, did you make it at amp -25 or -20.

[Qwerty]

06/13/2013 at 3:28 pm

Tap
I can post my script in the new gold forum tomorrow. As for amplification I had 7 voices with “I” at -25 “you” at -30 and third person at -40.

[Tap]

06/14/2013 at 12:14 am

Interesting going with the sledgehammer. I’m curious to see how that works for you. It looks like a bit more work to make, but possibly in the future I might try.

[tonguester4_69]

06/15/2013 at 5:08 am

With the night wear, my wife was the same way for most of our 36 years of marriage. After using files to improve her submissiveness, i mentioned an article I read claiming that couples sleeping together nude share a bonding hormone called oxytocin (I think that’s the right spelling). Since then she almost always come to bed in just her panties.Try it,:smile: it might help with that at least.

[Qwerty]

06/15/2013 at 9:46 pm

Thank you for the advice. Just a quick update. Wife met some friends at an amusement park for the weekend. I told her I want her to send be a picture of her breasts. The first picture she sent today was just of the top of her breasts, but she has sent two more pictures throughout the day showing more and more breast. My wife is definitely not an excerbitionist so this behavior is definitely out of the norm for her.

[MasterSouthernStar]

06/16/2013 at 11:28 pm

Qwerty;

         Glad to hear the breast script is working so well.  Hope it continues for you.  This type of thing is great to hear as it means someone’s really getting true benefit and practical movement.  I love to see it.  Keep up the good work!

[Tap]

06/20/2013 at 9:18 pm

Qwerty,
How’s your sex script working? I read it in the gold forum and it looks pretty good. One thing though is if your wife thinks kind of dirty like that, it would help. If she doesn’t use some of the sexual terms you used, it might not be as effective. Also, it could make her horny in general and not just to you. When I made my sex custom, I was thinking how I wanted her to want sex with just me so every affirmation had “my husband” or “my husband Tap” in it. I didn’t want her to go banging her coworkers or something.

[Qwerty]

06/21/2013 at 4:39 pm

Tap,
Possibly see some results. Sex has increased slowly from once every two weeks to twice this week. My wife is also initiating sex every time. Finally and most striking for me is that this week during sex she is using some of the phrases in the script. These are phrases that she would not usually use during sex and they definately not as often as she has been using them during sex. But is this a change or an anominaly I am not sure.
As for focusing her new found drive on me I do have a lot of reference to me throughout (by name, pet name and generic husband) so when i was cleaning up the script for my general use it looks like I left off a couple of those reference.
As a further up date on other noticable changes, my wife has become quite open to sending me pictures of her breasts and intact become disappointed when life intruded and she can not fulfil my request. She has also started flashing me her breasts at moments when she thinks no one else is looking.

[trainer81]

06/21/2013 at 5:42 pm

@Qwerty said:
Tap,
Possibly see some results. Sex has increased slowly from once every two weeks to twice this week. My wife is also initiating sex every time. Finally and most striking for me is that this week during sex she is using some of the phrases in the script. These are phrases that she would not usually use during sex and they definately not as often as she has been using them during sex. But is this a change or an anominaly I am not sure.
As for focusing her new found drive on me I do have a lot of reference to me throughout (by name, pet name and generic husband) so when i was cleaning up the script for my general use it looks like I left off a couple of those reference.
As a further up date on other noticable changes, my wife has become quite open to sending me pictures of her breasts and intact become disappointed when life intruded and she can not fulfil my request.

Nice I’m glad your getting good results

Is this one of your own sex custom ?

Trainer81

[Qwerty]

06/21/2013 at 6:32 pm

Yes Trainer this is a custom script which I placed in the gold forum.

[MasterSouthernStar]

06/23/2013 at 6:32 pm

Q;

           Great job man!! Keep up the good work.  Especially keep posting your successes here.  It’s so nice to see such strong positive result.  It helps everyone to hear success from anyone.

[Qwerty]

06/26/2013 at 3:33 pm

Just a quick up date. Touching has dramaticly increased. Before the subliminals we would sit on opposite ends of the couch or in different chairs. Now my wife has her legs continually draped over me and is absently touching my arms, chest, legs, and other areas as we watch tv. Wife came to bed topless last night. Said she was hot and did not want to were a top. Interesting side note, when I brought up that this was becoming a pleasing habit, she said twice does not make a habit, which is interesting in that it was the third time in a week and the 5th time in two weeks. Apparently she recalls only the first time she did this. Is it that coming to bed topless is becoming normal for her and so not noteworthy? Not sure. That is it for now. Thank you to everyone for the encouragement and kind words.

[tonguester4_69]

06/26/2013 at 4:41 pm

The topless thing could be becoming habit.With my wife it is a habit if we’re sleeping together, unless we’ve had an argument. Then she reverts back to wearing something.

[limited1]

06/26/2013 at 5:36 pm

@Qwerty said:
Just a quick up date. Touching has dramaticly increased. Before the subliminals we would sit on opposite ends of the couch or in different chairs. Now my wife has her legs continually draped over me and is absently touching my arms, chest, legs, and other areas as we watch tv. Wife came to bed topless last night. Said she was hot and did not want to were a top. Interesting side note, when I brought up that this was becoming a pleasing habit, she said twice does not make a habit, which is interesting in that it was the third time in a week and the 5th time in two weeks. Apparently she recalls only the first time she did this. Is it that coming to bed topless is becoming normal for her and so not noteworthy? Not sure. That is it for now. Thank you to everyone for the encouragement and kind words.

Qwerty, Do you think some of this is attributed to your custom naked file that you referenced a few weeks ago? Would you mind posting the script in the Gold Forum? I’m looking to build a custom file for future use on my wife’s self confidence with her body, and being naked, etc….looking for some ideas from your script and others that I could possibly incorporate. TIA

[Qwerty]

07/03/2013 at 5:42 pm

Time for my weekly update. It has been a week straight that my wife has coke to bed every night only on her underwear. The 4 most recent night have been without prompting from me.

After ready Tap’s journal there must have been some in the air that weekend. Wife and I polished off a coupke of bottles of wine, during the drinking my wife kept rubbing my crotch. Then she asked to go upstairs so we could have sex. Unfortunately for me by the time I got to bed my wife was passed out asleep. Next morning I told her how unfair it was that she teased me all night only to leave me high and dry. She agree totally at which point she started making out with me which lead to morning sex. We never have morning sex. After we had finished she said we should do it again that night. Unfortunately life intervened.

Yesterday when I went to play with my wife’s breast rather that push me away after about a minute she pulled the covers down so I could get better access and this morning she actively encourage me to play with her breasts by putting her hands over mine and assisting me in kneeding her breasts.

Overall affectionette touching has been constant when we are alone (touching my leg, rubbing her foot on my feet, touching my ARM and over desire to snuggled while watching tv). Also today while I was getting ready for work she kept rubbing my crotch and giving me a wicked little smile.

Overall a very positive week.:cool:

[FaustsBoon]

07/03/2013 at 8:34 pm

Great progress man.  I’m extremely jealous.  Keep it up as you’re obviously on to something that is working very, very, well for you.

I’m hoping creating a “custom” really is the difference between tiny, slower success, and something a little bit more potent.

[Tap]

07/03/2013 at 10:59 pm

@FaustsBoon said:

Great progress man.  I’m extremely jealous.  Keep it up as you’re obviously on to something that is working very, very, well for you.

I’m hoping creating a “custom” really is the difference between tiny, slower success, and something a little bit more potent.

I think Qwerty, though, plays 3 files, 2 customs and one of trainer’s files. I’ve learned that something always gets sacrificed when just playing one file. Whenever I play my one custom, I see positives like in our sex life, but then I noticed she challenges me more on things. Then, when I add in the I’m submissive sledgehammer, she falls back in line. My custom probably is not too “submissive” heavy so she reverts back to her old self a bit. But then when I play my custom and my sledgehammer, I feel like my custom doesn’t get enough repetitions.

FB, in your situation, it might work out though because you’re focused mainly on your sex life. One file about being a sex slave will probably work at that. I have a few areas where I’d like my wife to improve and it’s difficult to catch all that in one custom.

[FaustsBoon]

07/03/2013 at 11:32 pm

@Tap1 said:

@FaustsBoon said:

Great progress man.  I’m extremely jealous.  Keep it up as you’re obviously on to something that is working very, very, well for you.

 

I’m hoping creating a “custom” really is the difference between tiny, slower success, and something a little bit more potent.

I think Qwerty, though, plays 3 files, 2 customs and one of trainer’s files. I’ve learned that something always gets sacrificed when just playing one file. Whenever I play my one custom, I see positives like in our sex life, but then I noticed she challenges me more on things. Then, when I add in the I’m submissive sledgehammer, she falls back in line. My custom probably is not too “submissive” heavy so she reverts back to her old self a bit. But then when I play my custom and my sledgehammer, I feel like my custom doesn’t get enough repetitions.

FB, in your situation, it might work out though because you’re focused mainly on your sex life. One file about being a sex slave will probably work at that. I have a few areas where I’d like my wife to improve and it’s difficult to catch all that in one custom.

Well Tap, when I decided to try the “one ultimate track” approach, I realized, much as you say, that the real issues in my relationship are mostly (not entirely) sex focused.  The secondary issue was submission too, BUT as is the fortunate case… the two goals over-lap SOOOO completely.

As such, my sex focused track, ALSO has a lot of language regarding submission.

Up until now, i’ve done three-track playlists as well, but it felt handcuffed as I was soooo worried about getting rid of LHO Husband.  The “crutch” of wanting that file plus usually another for submission (STW), meant that two of my three “slots” were used before I could even pick something to work towards in terms of long-term goal.

See, one thing I know about my wife… unless she is absolutely enamoured with something, its in-one-ear-out-the-other….  She literally only remembers to do the LAST thing you asked of her.  As such, I figured it has GOT to be one track, and one track only, with extremely high repetition.

My only remaining worry is… 1. How will her brain react to “sex slave”?  Will the language hit in an odd way and make progress obscenely slow at first?  And 2. There is no easily demonstratable behavior in the script.  I loved playing Wife Cock-Sucker, because I could SEE instances of it working.  If I could manage it, I wouldn’t absolutely have seeded the script with a highly specific phrase/behavior to keep an eye on.  As it is, with my script… I don’t know how to look for the earliest stages of it working?  I mean… she’s not gonna suddenly approach me about wanting to be a submissive.  :-p

[Qwerty]

07/04/2013 at 12:48 am

Tap is right in that I have a three play list, though some night I pick one file to concentrate on. I have also adjust my files as I go on. As the journal implies I was going, and still plan to at some point, go down the slur road, but I found in the beginning my wife associated the word with being drunk and so she started drink alot. Once I stopped using the word slut she stopped drinking every night. So you never can tell how peoples subconcience will react.
As for submissive behavior look for her to defer to you, look for her to follow request she never did before. For me it was asking my wife to get me a drink. This is not something she ever would do before, now she anticipates my need for a drink. It is the little changes that will tip you off.
Good luck with you new script

[tonguester4_69]

07/04/2013 at 8:31 am

Qwerty , that is great news man! I too, am a little jealous.My wife is about half the way of where yours is.She has consistently, been coming to bed in underwear for about a year now. At the same time however, her desire and level of initiation of sex has remained low to non-existent.As I detailed else where, there are a couple reasons for this, some physical, some mental. I hope to eventually get to a place with my wife such as you’ve described here. I wish you the best in continued success in her training.

[FaustsBoon]

07/04/2013 at 2:02 pm

@Qwerty said:
Tap is right in that I have a three play list, though some night I pick one file to concentrate on. I have also adjust my files as I go on. As the journal implies I was going, and still plan to at some point, go down the slur road, but I found in the beginning my wife associated the word with being drunk and so she started drink alot. Once I stopped using the word slut she stopped drinking every night. So you never can tell how peoples subconcience will react.
As for submissive behavior look for her to defer to you, look for her to follow request she never did before. For me it was asking my wife to get me a drink. This is not something she ever would do before, now she anticipates my need for a drink. It is the little changes that will tip you off.
Good luck with you new script

@Qwerty said:
Tap is right in that I have a three play list, though some night I pick one file to concentrate on. I have also adjust my files as I go on. As the journal implies I was going, and still plan to at some point, go down the slur road, but I found in the beginning my wife associated the word with being drunk and so she started drink alot. Once I stopped using the word slut she stopped drinking every night. So you never can tell how peoples subconcience will react.
As for submissive behavior look for her to defer to you, look for her to follow request she never did before. For me it was asking my wife to get me a drink. This is not something she ever would do before, now she anticipates my need for a drink. It is the little changes that will tip you off.
Good luck with you new script

[Qwerty]

07/09/2013 at 6:13 pm

So this past week has been a bit of a roller coaster. Wife was talking with friends about the changes going on at home (more sex more of me playing with her breasts etc.). When they found out that she came to bed naked now, they implied that this was the root cause of all the problems (wife never stated to them that all the changes were a problem) and that she should do back to wearing sleepwear and all her problems would fix themselves. Basically the peer pressure of her friends has undone all the signs of progress.

She went back to wearing head to toe sleepwear, did not want me touching her breasts and became distant. However there does seem to be an underlying change as she has in the past 2 days started wearing less to bed (still not naked but much less that earlier in the week) she has let start playing with her breasts again saying I am incourageable then gives me a flirty smile and we have gone from being on opposite sides of the couch to her coming over to me and snuggling up against me. I even woke up this morning with her had on my penis gently rubbing it absent mindedly. Also after talking with her I got the distinct impression that the changes that were brought about by her friends comments were not because she felt anything was wrong in what was happening in our bedroom but because she was made to feel she should not be letting these things happen without some kind of compensation.

So it has been a week of two steps back one forward. I have also substituted LHO for submissive wife this next couple of weeks to try increase my influence and minimize the influence of peer pressure.

[Qwerty]

07/16/2013 at 4:57 pm

So for my weekly update. The subliminals seem to have taken. Since my last post my wife has been coming to bed naked every night. An interesting side note whenever I mention to her how much I enjoy her coming to bed naked she turns around and comments that it has only been a couple of day. Has it become so second nature to her that she does not even realize she is coming to bed naked?

The big bomb shell this week started Sunday with an off hand comment by my wife but became more than passing comment last night. On Sunday night my wife went over to a friends house for her birthday. When she got back we were talking and she mentioned that the church a friend of ours went to occasionally had put forth a challenge to the married members to have sex every day for a year and how all the women were laughing about such a ridiculous challenge. I thought nothing more of it till yesterday when my wife told me she had been thinking about the challenge and she thinking she wanted to try it. Well my mouth just about hit the floor. But she said she did not think she could commit to sex everyday for a year. (As I have said previously we were lucky if we did it every other week). Ok I said how long do you want to commit to it I asked fully expecting her to say let’s play it day by day. In stead she sated she wanted to commit to sex everyday for a month them we could talk about doing the year. I agreed that that sounded reasonable and when did she want to start, again expecting her to start on this Friday or Saturday (our regular sex day) to which she responded right now. She then took my hand and led me to the bedroom giggling like a little school girl. We then had sex and I finished before she did. Usually this would leave her in a foul mood but instead she said she would get hers tomorrow with a wicked smile and a wink. She then told me that knowing there was going to be sex again tomorrow took of all the pressure on her to have an orgasm every time we had sex and she could just enjoy it and let go. A wait had been lifted off her shoulders. Now mind you last night wad only the first night but I am intregued to see where this goes.

I do need so advice though. Should I continue with my current playlist that seems to have come to fruition or is now the ideal time to introduce some new ideas?

[FaustsBoon]

07/16/2013 at 5:20 pm

@Qwerty said:
So for my weekly update. The subliminals seem to have taken. Since my last post my wife has been coming to bed naked every night. An interesting side note whenever I mention to her how much I enjoy her coming to bed naked she turns around and comments that it has only been a couple of day. Has it become so second nature to her that she does not even realize she is coming to bed naked?

The big bomb shell this week started Sunday with an off hand comment by my wife but became more than passing comment last night. On Sunday night my wife went over to a friends house for her birthday. When she got back we were talking and she mentioned that the church a friend of ours went to occasionally had put forth a challenge to the married members to have sex every day for a year and how all the women were laughing about such a ridiculous challenge. I thought nothing more of it till yesterday when my wife told me she had been thinking about the challenge and she thinking she wanted to try it. Well my mouth just about hit the floor. But she said she did not think she could commit to sex everyday for a year. (As I have said previously we were lucky if we did it every other week). Ok I said how long do you want to commit to it I asked fully expecting her to say let’s play it day by day. In stead she sated she wanted to commit to sex everyday for a month them we could talk about doing the year. I agreed that that sounded reasonable and when did she want to start, again expecting her to start on this Friday or Saturday (our regular sex day) to which she responded right now. She then took my hand and led me to the bedroom giggling like a little school girl. We then had sex and I finished before she did. Usually this would leave her in a foul mood but instead she said she would get hers tomorrow with a wicked smile and a wink. She then told me that knowing there was going to be sex again tomorrow took of all the pressure on her to have an orgasm every time we had sex and she could just enjoy it and let go. A wait had been lifted off her shoulders. Now mind you last night wad only the first night but I am intregued to see where this goes.

I do need so advice though. Should I continue with my current playlist that seems to have come to fruition or is now the ideal time to introduce some new ideas?

Hey man!  CONGRATULATIONS.  I’m starting to think you’re the script wizard… because not only has your subliminal worked exactly as you’d hoped, but it seems to work, or find its way into the scripts of several other users.  😉  Good work.  Enjoy the rewards, as it seemed to be your effort, patience, etc… paying off.

I would say absolutely DO NOT stop your play-list.  It is said that habits form after thirty+ days of constant repetition… and in some cases longer.  I would absolutely keep the exact same track/tracks in rotation for at least another month, or longer.  If you can be patient… and heck… it sounds like it’ll be a fun journey regardless… I would suggest keeping the tracks playing, as they are, for a few more months, until the behaviors are really innate parts of your life.  When it isn’t a treat… isn’t a fluke… and is just the way things are, then you can SLOWLY ease off a subliminal, as is my understanding.

Plus, if by some fluke, the behavior starts becoming too extreme, you can probably ease back on word choices, etc… a whole lot easier than you can stumble on such a powerful combination of affirmations again.

Again man…  congrats.  I hope it keeps going well for you, and I hope my own circumstances can turn out as successfully as yours.  Keep us posted for the next few days…  I’m curious how this challenge plays into things.

[Tap]

07/16/2013 at 6:43 pm

That’s some Church to request that of the wives lol. Nice man. I’d say continue with your playlist unless you really want to try to push her to new levels. If you’re content with how things are then just stick with it.

One comment I’d say is to try and have her finish all the time when you do it. I personally always have my wife orgasm at least once, but she usually goes twice or more when we do it, before I get there. Not to get into too many details, but doing that clitorally is the best and easiest way. It’s an incentive for having them want more sex and I can see how some women would be frustrated by that and just not want to do it. I’m hoping some of your script that I put in my custom has a similar effect for my wife too.

[Fizbin]

07/17/2013 at 4:24 am

Congratulations! I agree with the others – keep it up!

[limited1]

07/17/2013 at 2:13 pm

Wow, you are making great progress……Keep going with the files. Love the comment about the Church challenge….if more would do that, there would be many more happy marriages IMO. 

[Qwerty]

07/24/2013 at 3:43 pm

Time for my weekly update. First let me thank those of you who encouraged me to continue on with my current play list.

This past week my wife and I have had sex everyday this week (up from twice sa month on good months). The breast/naked file seems to be really taking hold. Coming to bed naked seems to becoming her default, and by that I mean she seems to have to make a conscious effort to come to bed with any clothing on and even then if distracted she will strip down.

A new turn has been her desire to wear sexy bras and panties. She is very open to my opinions on what looks good on her, to the point she said she need to go and buy some more sexy underwear unless I wanted to pick them out for her.

Finally i could not help myself in adding a new script to my playlist. It was based off of my sex script but focused on her giving me oral sex. Was not expecting anything for a long time if ever from this script as my wife has only given oral twice in the past two years (both times involved a lot of begging and a lot of alcohol and ended after a couple of minutes with her passed out and me fustrated). However Sunday after sex my wife said she wanted to sick my cock tomorrow (her words). The following day we had unexpected company so I did not expect anything, yet at the first opportunity to excuse us from our company she did, taking me upstairs and proceeded to work my penis over with her mouth for the next hour. All the time moaning and looking up at me with a devilish smirk on her face. Here is hoping this was not just an aberation.

[FaustsBoon]

07/24/2013 at 3:52 pm

Dear God….  Dude…  Wow.  Congratulations.

Right now you’re my sole source of hope that this custom script will save my ailing sex-life, within my marriage.

Do not change your playlist!  Its obviously working… now you just need to make these changes permanent.

[limited1]

07/25/2013 at 1:41 am

@Qwerty said:
Finally i could not help myself in adding a new script to my playlist. It was based off of my sex script but focused on her giving me oral sex. Was not expecting anything for a long time if ever from this script as my wife has only given oral twice in the past two years (both times involved a lot of begging and a lot of alcohol and ended after a couple of minutes with her passed out and me fustrated). However Sunday after sex my wife said she wanted to sick my cock tomorrow (her words). The following day we had unexpected company so I did not expect anything, yet at the first opportunity to excuse us from our company she did, taking me upstairs and proceeded to work my penis over with her mouth for the next hour. All the time moaning and looking up at me with a devilish smirk on her face. Here is hoping this was not just an aberation.

Wow , you are making great progress…Congrats! Are you going to post your new oral sex playlist? Would love to see what terminolgy that you are using to to get such a response. 

[tonguester4_69]

07/25/2013 at 5:17 am

Great news man! hope things continue well for you.

[Tap]

07/26/2013 at 3:24 am

Nice. I think your wife is more easily susceptible to subliminals or at least less resistant to the scripts which is good for you. Are all your customs sledgehammers? Also, what amp did you record at for your sex custom? I remember before you were going around -20?

[Qwerty]

07/26/2013 at 9:07 pm

Tap the oral was not a sledge and was recorded at -30. I also modified the niquist level.

[tonguester4_69]

07/27/2013 at 6:49 am

This is an area my wife has serious mental blocks about.I’ve been trying to come up with a script, that would help her be more into it, but haven’t been able to come up with one that seems to work.Of course it may be her internal view of sex in general that’s the problem.Did you post the changes in the Gold forum by cchance?

[Qwerty]

07/30/2013 at 5:33 pm

Ok update time. Some of you have asked for the oral sex script to be posted. I have not posted it yet as I wanted to see if the oral trend continued or was more of a once off thing. Well this week I have gotten more oral than I have had in the past five years of marriage, so it definitely send to have had a positive effect. I will try and post the script some time this week in the gold forum. Sex has not slowed down either. Intact I had to ask for a night off (I had just finished an 8 hour volleyball tournaments and could barely stand or see straight), at which point she got a little pouty and asked if she was not doing enough to get me turned on. Of course I assured her nothing could be further from the truth, at which point she seemed to perk up a little.

This lead me to my second observation this week, my wife is definitely become submissive and looking to please me and gain my approval. She has been quick to get food and drink for me when we are alone (it use to be the other way round). She is wearing cloths I like and when she does not have something she knows I like she has ask me if it would be ok if she wore it. She is also trying to anticipate my needs.

The nakedness has been an interesting one this week. Three times this week she said she wanted to wear something to bed. Once she went to bed before me, but when I got to bed she was naked. Once she came to bed in cloths only to be naked when I woke up the next morning, and the third time she did come toned forged and stayed clothed but told me in the morning she had had the worst nights sleep in awhile as her cloths kept getting tangled and bunched and over made sleeping difficult. When we talk about her coming to bed naked she still insists it is not that often.

The final new observation this week is my wife send to becoming more adventurous and opening up to different ideas. The most obvious one happened last night when she had candles and everything set up downstairs. When I asked what was going on she stated that she just realized that we own the whole house and that we should not just limit our sex to our bed (since a year after marriage we have not ventured out of the bedroom as she felt it was too dirty). She has also made innuendos about being tied up using my robe cord wrapped around her hands asking what I think, to which I replied i am game. Then she backed off saying that I know she has control issues. Then there was anal. We were having sex and I was grabbing her ass when she told me to stop. I apologized saying I know she does not like my hands anywhere near her butt hole, to which she replied that was not it, intact she really liked it, she was just feeling a little gasy and was afraid that it would escape if I kept pulling her ass apart like that.

Overall an excellent week I would say.

[FaustsBoon]

07/30/2013 at 6:37 pm

@Qwerty said:
Ok update time. Some of you have asked for the oral sex script to be posted. I have not posted it yet as I wanted to see if the oral trend continued or was more of a once off thing. Well this week I have gotten more oral than I have had in the past five years of marriage, so it definitely send to have had a positive effect. I will try and post the script some time this week in the gold forum. Sex has not slowed down either. Intact I had to ask for a night off (I had just finished an 8 hour volleyball tournaments and could barely stand or see straight), at which point she got a little pouty and asked if she was not doing enough to get me turned on. Of course I assured her nothing could be further from the truth, at which point she seemed to perk up a little.

This lead me to my second observation this week, my wife is definitely become submissive and looking to please me and gain my approval. She has been quick to get food and drink for me when we are alone (it use to be the other way round). She is wearing cloths I like and when she does not have something she knows I like she has ask me if it would be ok if she wore it. She is also trying to anticipate my needs.

The nakedness has been an interesting one this week. Three times this week she said she wanted to wear something to bed. Once she went to bed before me, but when I got to bed she was naked. Once she came to bed in cloths only to be naked when I woke up the next morning, and the third time she did come toned forged and stayed clothed but told me in the morning she had had the worst nights sleep in awhile as her cloths kept getting tangled and bunched and over made sleeping difficult. When we talk about her coming to bed naked she still insists it is not that often.

The final new observation this week is my wife send to becoming more adventurous and opening up to different ideas. The most obvious one happened last night when she had candles and everything set up downstairs. When I asked what was going on she stated that she just realized that we own the whole house and that we should not just limit our sex to our bed (since a year after marriage we have not ventured out of the bedroom as she felt it was too dirty). She has also made innuendos about being tied up using my robe cord wrapped around her hands asking what I think, to which I replied i am game. Then she backed off saying that I know she has control issues. Then there was anal. We were having sex and I was grabbing her ass when she told me to stop. I apologized saying I know she does not like my hands anywhere near her butt hole, to which she replied that was not it, intact she really liked it, she was just feeling a little gasy and was afraid that it would escape if I kept pulling her ass apart like that.

Overall an excellent week I would say.

QWERTY… you are, without question, our high-water-mark for success right now.  Be it a combination of your scripts, your wife’s inherent nature, your way of recording/using subliminals…  I don’t know… but I do know that you are my principle motivation right now.  I don’t know if you’ve stumbled onto something specific that we all need to mine out, our what, but something amazing is going on.

To think, this has been… what… two total months from you going from mediocre to most of our end-goals?  Amazing.  Keep it up, savor it, and make sure everything really, really sticks before trying to escalate on your end.

I don’t suppose you could give any more insights?  What has been your full play-list, times of day you play it, etc, these last months?  Is this ALL your sex custom/oral sex custom, or are you still supplementing with other files?  Do you play at night and day?  Rain/silents?  How often do you play your files for her?

Anything else you could lay out would be of great help.  I’m essentially using a modified version of your file, and two weeks+ in, i’m only seeing the tiniest of effects.  It could be beginning to take effect, or I could be imagining things.

Out of curiosity, have you had any outright conversations with your wife about sex?  Did this begin with anything you DID, or have you really more passively just smiled to yourself and let the subliminals do the work?

[limited1]

07/30/2013 at 6:42 pm

@FaustsBoon said:

@Qwerty said:
Ok update time. Some of you have asked for the oral sex script to be posted. I have not posted it yet as I wanted to see if the oral trend continued or was more of a once off thing. Well this week I have gotten more oral than I have had in the past five years of marriage, so it definitely send to have had a positive effect. I will try and post the script some time this week in the gold forum. Sex has not slowed down either. Intact I had to ask for a night off (I had just finished an 8 hour volleyball tournaments and could barely stand or see straight), at which point she got a little pouty and asked if she was not doing enough to get me turned on. Of course I assured her nothing could be further from the truth, at which point she seemed to perk up a little.

This lead me to my second observation this week, my wife is definitely become submissive and looking to please me and gain my approval. She has been quick to get food and drink for me when we are alone (it use to be the other way round). She is wearing cloths I like and when she does not have something she knows I like she has ask me if it would be ok if she wore it. She is also trying to anticipate my needs.

The nakedness has been an interesting one this week. Three times this week she said she wanted to wear something to bed. Once she went to bed before me, but when I got to bed she was naked. Once she came to bed in cloths only to be naked when I woke up the next morning, and the third time she did come toned forged and stayed clothed but told me in the morning she had had the worst nights sleep in awhile as her cloths kept getting tangled and bunched and over made sleeping difficult. When we talk about her coming to bed naked she still insists it is not that often.

The final new observation this week is my wife send to becoming more adventurous and opening up to different ideas. The most obvious one happened last night when she had candles and everything set up downstairs. When I asked what was going on she stated that she just realized that we own the whole house and that we should not just limit our sex to our bed (since a year after marriage we have not ventured out of the bedroom as she felt it was too dirty). She has also made innuendos about being tied up using my robe cord wrapped around her hands asking what I think, to which I replied i am game. Then she backed off saying that I know she has control issues. Then there was anal. We were having sex and I was grabbing her ass when she told me to stop. I apologized saying I know she does not like my hands anywhere near her butt hole, to which she replied that was not it, intact she really liked it, she was just feeling a little gasy and was afraid that it would escape if I kept pulling her ass apart like that.

Overall an excellent week I would say.

 

QWERTY… you are, without question, our high-water-mark for success right now.  Be it a combination of your scripts, your wife’s inherent nature, your way of recording/using subliminals…  I don’t know… but I do know that you are my principle motivation right now.  I don’t know if you’ve stumbled onto something specific that we all need to mine out, our what, but something amazing is going on.

 

To think, this has been… what… two total months from you going from mediocre to most of our end-goals?  Amazing.  Keep it up, savor it, and make sure everything really, really sticks before trying to escalate on your end.

 

I don’t suppose you could give any more insights?  What has been your full play-list, times of day you play it, etc, these last months?  Is this ALL your sex custom/oral sex custom, or are you still supplementing with other files?  Do you play at night and day?  Rain/silents?  How often do you play your files for her?

 

Anything else you could lay out would be of great help.  I’m essentially using a modified version of your file, and two weeks+ in, i’m only seeing the tiniest of effects.  It could be beginning to take effect, or I could be imagining things.

 

Out of curiosity, have you had any outright conversations with your wife about sex?  Did this begin with anything you DID, or have you really more passively just smiled to yourself and let the subliminals do the work?

+1000 …….You are a rock star in this forum. I echo everything FaustsBoon mentioned above….. Would love to know exactly the playlist files, the verbiage for the oral sex script, and if the silents are doing all the work or you are talking to your wife about sex consistently to get these type of results. Congrats!!!!

[Qwerty]

07/30/2013 at 9:07 pm

Faust/limited,
I will pull my notes together and try to give you as much information as I can in the gold forum. It is going to take some time but I will see what I can do. As for the oral script I should have it up around Thursday in the gold forum.

[FaustsBoon]

07/30/2013 at 10:49 pm

@Qwerty said:
Faust/limited,
I will pull my notes together and try to give you as much information as I can in the gold forum. It is going to take some time but I will see what I can do. As for the oral script I should have it up around Thursday in the gold forum.

Hey Qwerty… 

 

All that sounds great.  Limited and I will eagerly await both posts, i’m sure.  I’m very curious as to the nature of your miracle script which seems to have deeply taken hold in the span of days, when your first took months, and even that was impressively quick.  

 

Likewise, i’m SO glad that you’ve got collected notes.  I do the same, obviously, and feel like somewhere in there will be an amazing piece of knowledge.  Every detail you can give us, no matter how seemingly small would be incredible.

 

Cheers!

[Fizbin]

07/31/2013 at 12:35 am

I’m sure we’re all waiting with bated breath!

[Qwerty]

08/05/2013 at 3:28 pm

I have tried to upload the oral sex script a couple of times for the last week as well as some of my notes but there seems to be an issue when you past things into a post. Will keep trying.

As for my wife I am starting to think her kinky side was barely below the surface. This week the sex and oral sex have continued. She is waking up feeling frisky and it does not take much too turn her on. She is talking about using toys, costums, and how exciting it would be to have sex infront of our friends. None of these statements have ever come up before and in fact the toys and costumes when brought up by others have illicitted private comments from my wife such as “Is she re ally that slutty.” She has also stated she wants to have sex in the kitchen, the shower, the office and the car. Finally she mentioned to me that she wante d to get some crotchless panties so that the next time we go out for dinner I can have full access to her while we eat. She has told me several times this week that she feels she needs sex almost everyday and she wants to continue have daily sex beyond our monthly trial period.

Her submissive side/need to please has also been increasing. Over the weekend all i had to do was ask for something and she quickly stopped what she was doing and got it for me. I also bought her some new underwear. I asked her to model them for me which she could not do quick enough. After the show she asked which I liked best, then put those on and came sat next to me wearing only them, cooing how sex the new underwear felt and she would have to throughout all of her granny panties tomorrow, which she did.

To be honest this far beyond anything I expected, and to be frank feels a little out of control. From having sex twice a month if I was lucky, and being made to feel like a pervert for asking for it that much, to a wife that likes doing it daily (sometimes more) and is getting turned on at the thought of doing it infront of our friends, or having me play with her in a public restraunt is truly a 180. Most of the kinky stuff so far has been talk, but it is talk she is not shy about sharing with the neighbors.

I am going to continue with the same scripts as I am have such great success. Any suggestions are appreciated for as I said I feel like my head is spinning with all the possibilites and am unsure where to guide this fast moving locomotive.

[MasterSouthernStar]

08/05/2013 at 4:22 pm

Qwerty;

             My suggestion is enjoy.  Your sex life is kicking – and more importantly for the long term she’s readily open and communicative with you about it.  All those fantasies may remain just that – but she may enjoy having them like that.  So keep up the good communication and I bet it will just get better.  Heck I’d ask her to hear more in hopes she’d hit a kink I shared.

             Either way make sure you enjoy what you’ve got.  We all tend to take success and move on.  Enjoy it for a while.  Life’s too short man.

MSS

[FaustsBoon]

08/05/2013 at 5:06 pm

@Qwerty said:
I have tried to upload the oral sex script a couple of times for the last week as well as some of my notes but there seems to be an issue when you past things into a post. Will keep trying.

As for my wife I am starting to think her kinky side was barely below the surface. This week the sex and oral sex have continued. She is waking up feeling frisky and it does not take much too turn her on. She is talking about using toys, costums, and how exciting it would be to have sex infront of our friends. None of these statements have ever come up before and in fact the toys and costumes when brought up by others have illicitted private comments from my wife such as “Is she re ally that slutty.” She has also stated she wants to have sex in the kitchen, the shower, the office and the car. Finally she mentioned to me that she wante d to get some crotchless panties so that the next time we go out for dinner I can have full access to her while we eat. She has told me several times this week that she feels she needs sex almost everyday and she wants to continue have daily sex beyond our monthly trial period.

Her submissive side/need to please has also been increasing. Over the weekend all i had to do was ask for something and she quickly stopped what she was doing and got it for me. I also bought her some new underwear. I asked her to model them for me which she could not do quick enough. After the show she asked which I liked best, then put those on and came sat next to me wearing only them, cooing how sex the new underwear felt and she would have to throughout all of her granny panties tomorrow, which she did.

To be honest this far beyond anything I expected, and to be frank feels a little out of control. From having sex twice a month if I was lucky, and being made to feel like a pervert for asking for it that much, to a wife that likes doing it daily (sometimes more) and is getting turned on at the thought of doing it infront of our friends, or having me play with her in a public restraunt is truly a 180. Most of the kinky stuff so far has been talk, but it is talk she is not shy about sharing with the neighbors.

I am going to continue with the same scripts as I am have such great success. Any suggestions are appreciated for as I said I feel like my head is spinning with all the possibilites and am unsure where to guide this fast moving locomotive.

Do… just enjoy every moment.  You’ve earned it, and inspired me (and helped me hopefully take the same path).  Live the dream, and enjoy, enjoy, enjoy.

Meanwhile, since i’m using, essentially your exact files, we’ll have a fascinating test-bed for how effective they are, versus how specifically succeptible your wife might just be.

[FaustsBoon]

08/05/2013 at 5:08 pm

Do… just enjoy every moment.  You’ve earned it, and inspired me (and helped me hopefully take the same path).  Live the dream, and enjoy, enjoy, enjoy.

Meanwhile, since i’m using, essentially your exact files, we’ll have a fascinating test-bed for how effective they are, versus how specifically succeptible your wife might just be.

[J66R]

08/06/2013 at 1:46 am

Jimminy freakin Christmas!

That is phenomenal success!  I’d love to get a look at those scripts and nyquist settings and try them out on my wife.

There are some things like swallowing and sleeping naked that my wife is still flat out saying “not going to happen”.

I keep up the faith because it was just the beginning of the year that oral stimulation at all was literally less than once in a year thing and sex was a 1 – 2 times per month when she was horny, type of thing. Also, cumming in her mouth was “not going to happen”. Now sex is a couple times a week and oral is also and there is no question at all about cumming in her mouth. But getting naked for me when I ask, midnight sex her talking about getting nice underwear, trying to look nice makeup unless going out or exercising again. She’s fallen off all that after initial good progress. There is just some “block” that I can’t find a way through. Your stuff might have a key I’m missing to get past this plateau.

Keep trying to post thos even if it is a simple copy-paste.

{on knees begging}

[FaustsBoon]

08/06/2013 at 2:02 pm

@J66R said:
Jimminy freakin Christmas!

 

That is phenomenal success!  I’d love to get a look at those scripts and nyquist settings and try them out on my wife.

 

There are some things like swallowing and sleeping naked that my wife is still flat out saying “not going to happen”.

 

I keep up the faith because it was just the beginning of the year that oral stimulation at all was literally less than once in a year thing and sex was a 1 – 2 times per month when she was horny, type of thing. Also, cumming in her mouth was “not going to happen”. Now sex is a couple times a week and oral is also and there is no question at all about cumming in her mouth. But getting naked for me when I ask, midnight sex her talking about getting nice underwear, trying to look nice makeup unless going out or exercising again. She’s fallen off all that after initial good progress. There is just some “block” that I can’t find a way through. Your stuff might have a key I’m missing to get past this plateau.

 

Keep trying to post thos even if it is a simple copy-paste.

{on knees begging}

 

For what it is worth, Qwerty and I are both trying… we really are.  Even copy and paste isn’t working for long scripts.

[limited1]

08/06/2013 at 4:14 pm

Holy Cow! This is why I keep going with these scripts (even though my progress is slow).

I can’t wait for FauastBoon and yourself get the copy and paste issues worked out….I want to see what settings you all are using, and of course the scripts 🙂

[FaustsBoon]

08/06/2013 at 4:26 pm

@limited1 said:
Holy Cow! This is why I keep going with these scripts (even though my progress is slow).

I can’t wait for FauastBoon and yourself get the copy and paste issues worked out….I want to see what settings you all are using, and of course the scripts

Well, while not trying to co-opt this thread (apologies Qwerty), I will say that between he and I, we are trying to figure out the real secret sauce.  Obviously he is well in advance of where, essentially everyone else on this forums, are.  I, using his methodology, and concepts am just starting to see results, but on an eerily similar time-table to Qwerty’s journal.

If, come two months from now, I find myself, where he is now (even roughly), I will write up something more formal, and academic, which attempts to capture what was done, how it was done, and with what reasoning it was done.  With a little (ok… a ton) of luck, the first real, more widely sampled “best practices” guide, could exist around that time.

For now, we’ll just have to wait, and see, and do a lot of finger-crossing, prayers, or whatever your practice of choice happens to be.  🙂

[Qwerty]

08/13/2013 at 3:34 am

So the files keep working. Sex has been every night. Oral has increased to almost every night. My wife has also got more adventurous. All this with her being on her period. She went to a sex shop for the first time in her life last week. She bought several things including crotchless panties and a quarter bra which she wants to go to our favorite restraunt in. Once back from the sex store she told me she has already planned a return trip to get some candles we can play with (never have we “played” with candles even when we were dating) and she saw a class about knots and being tied up. She said she was not saying she wanted to be tied up but the class did look interesting. Overall a stellar week. Again nothing could dissway her from having sex (not a cold or even her period).

But now the real test. My wife is visiting family for the next two weeks. This means no subliminals as I could not make the trip. It also means that she has a chance to reaccess everything that has happened in the past month with very little influence from me. If when she comes back she still wants ex nightly, offers up oral continuously and goes back to the sex shop and follows through on her talk then I know that the subliminals have taken. I am expecting a massive slide backwards but I will have to wait and see.

[FaustsBoon]

08/13/2013 at 11:36 am

@Qwerty said:
So the files keep working. Sex has been every night. Oral has increased to almost every night. My wife has also got more adventurous. All this with her being on her period. She went to a sex shop for the first time in her life last week. She bought several things including crotchless panties and a quarter bra which she wants to go to our favorite restraunt in. Once back from the sex store she told me she has already planned a return trip to get some candles we can play with (never have we “played” with candles even when we were dating) and she saw a class about knots and being tied up. She said she was not saying she wanted to be tied up but the class did look interesting. Overall a stellar week. Again nothing could dissway her from having sex (not a cold or even her period).

But now the real test. My wife is visiting family for the next two weeks. This means no subliminals as I could not make the trip. It also means that she has a chance to reaccess everything that has happened in the past month with very little influence from me. If when she comes back she still wants ex nightly, offers up oral continuously and goes back to the sex shop and follows through on her talk then I know that the subliminals have taken. I am expecting a massive slide backwards but I will have to wait and see.

Hope for the best, and plan for the worst is a wise way to proceed.  Expecting a backslide is reasonable, as your greatest successes/changes are only a few weeks old, but as others have reported, even back-sliding is reversed quite quickly when subliminals are returned and the program continued.  I expect you’ll continue to be our star.  🙂

Congrats on all the success brother.  Hopefully your good luck is back to rubbing off on me too (see my new update)…  🙂

[Qwerty]

08/20/2013 at 3:01 am

Quick up date. Wife is at family farm till next Monday. Couple of interesting thing have happened. Tried to get wife to send me a picture of her nipples. At first she said she would but she did not. However we started Skyping and every time she has flashed me her tits. She told me that she wanted to send me all soughts of pictures she was just to afraid that someone would see the pictures. The really interesting thing is that today she had a hard time keeping her top down flashing me several time continually playing with the bottom of her tip and giggling like a little school girl even with her grandmother in the next room she also said that she really wanted to have Skype sex but there was just too many people around. This is totally out of character for especially around her grandmother.

Interesting.

[FaustsBoon]

08/20/2013 at 2:58 pm

@Qwerty said:
Quick up date. Wife is at family farm till next Monday. Couple of interesting thing have happened. Tried to get wife to send me a picture of her nipples. At first she said she would but she did not. However we started Skyping and every time she has flashed me her tits. She told me that she wanted to send me all soughts of pictures she was just to afraid that someone would see the pictures. The really interesting thing is that today she had a hard time keeping her top down flashing me several time continually playing with the bottom of her tip and giggling like a little school girl even with her grandmother in the next room she also said that she really wanted to have Skype sex but there was just too many people around. This is totally out of character for especially around her grandmother.

Interesting.

Wonderful!  We had spoken about the possibility of a backslide, during two sudden weeks away from subliminals… but, if anything, it sounds like they have already taken strong, hold, and the time away from you has really made her even more single-minded.  I’d say, gently, keep this tempo and the topic alive, while she’s away, as a barrier to any backslide… then, when she gets home, reward her with something extra special in the sexual realm, to help her even further associate being with you, coming home to you, etc… with sexual pleasure.

Oh, and giving her another piece of “homework” as we’ve discussed is probably a good idea.  Have her do something else naughty for you while she’s away.  😉  Keep gently pushing, but pushing, none the less, her comfort just a bit at a time.  Always ask for something just a hair more than what you think she has in mind.

Congrats man!  You’re doing so, so well!

[Qwerty]

08/27/2013 at 6:04 pm

Quick update. Last weeks breast exposure while skyping continued with her exposing them longer and being more active with them (bouncing them up and down, grabbing them, squeezing them etc.). Still could not get her to send me a picture of them though.

Wife came back a day early as she need to see me. After 8 hour drive she was exhausted. Gave her a massage. While giving her a massage she commented that all I really wanted to do was massage her tits. I then proceeded to grab her breasts and massaged them saying basically that if I wanted to massage them I would. She then grabbed my hands and assisted me in massaging hr breasts. When we went to bed she was a sleep before her head hit the pillow but during the night I was awoken by her dry humping my leg in her sleep and groaning.

Last night we had sex which she initiated. Sex was aggressive and a little rougher than usual, but she was much more vocal (groaning, moaning, etc.) Than usual.

With such a small sample size it is hard to be sure but I am not detecting and backslide, but I will know for sure by this time next week.

[Qwerty]

09/10/2013 at 7:40 pm

Update
The past two weeks I have implemented two new scripts and one edited script. The edited script is the arousal script in which I have started introducing the idea of me as her master. The first new script is one that in courages her to be comfortable in give up control to be in general and wanting to be controlled by me in bed. The second script encourages her to explore these new ideas about sex in her dreams and to allow thee new fantasies play out in real life.
Over all the results have been mixed. One day she is very submissive and sexually aroused by me controlling her the next she is trying to be in control. One day she is telling me that her ass is mine to do with as I desire the next she is telling me she is not into that. Sometimes she tells me she needs me to please fuck her other times she tells me she is having sex to satisfy my needs. Sex has been 4 times a week for the last week which is,down from everyday prior to her two weeks away, however ever sex session has come with extensive oral and over 50% have had some form of non vanilla sex play associated with it (candle wax, her asking me to hold her hands down, chocolate, etc) and talk about other sexual acts such as anal and bondage has occurred but when pushed the following day she has backed out. Overall interesting couple of weeks with slight backslides in some areas while advances in others.

[FaustsBoon]

09/10/2013 at 10:17 pm

We’ve talked about this elsewhere, man… but for the benefit of readers i’ll share my general thoughts here too.  I wouldn’t worry.  You did lose almost two weeks to her vacation, which meant her going from full-immersion to cold-turkey on subliminals.  That has to come with some happenings, and all-in-all, they didn’t seem too huge, which I think is good.

Likewise, her mixed resistance is likely her working through her own process.  You have long said that your wife has great fear of giving up control, and its obvious that her new thoughts to the contrary would alarm her, or cause conflict.  All in all, even her resistance isn’t intense, rough, or off-putting which I think is probably pretty good.

Also, her saying she needs you to fuck her one day, versus saying she is doing this to satisfy you, ARE two sides of a submission coin.  In either case she is having sex with you because she needs it vis-a-vie you, or she needs to please you.  Again, both of those can be seen as positive outcomes.

I think it was bold as hell to change up essentially your whole play-list all at once, and while it probably wouldn’t have been my move, boldness has served you well thus far.  🙂

Either way, we’re here for you, and i’m always around to talk.  Considering submission and “master” lifestyle stuff was your pie-in-the-sky long-term end-goal… and you’re even dabbling in that end-game already just 4 months into this… should be very inspiring.  🙂  Remember where you and I BOTH came from, just months before using this program.  🙂

[Qwerty]

09/10/2013 at 11:08 pm

Thank you Faust. Believe me I am not complaining in the least, in fact I am quite enjoying myself. The everyday sex left little time for my wife to delve into her kinky side but at this current pace she has days off in which she can plan out things she wants to do. It has been great having someone to email back and forth to help bounce ideas off of and to ground me when I feel things are moving to fast. I high recommend to everyone here who reads this forum to find someone who has similar goals as yourself and to team up. You will be amazed at how much clear your regiment/scripts/files will become.

[trainer81]

09/11/2013 at 10:49 pm

One thing you want to keep in mind is making sure she’s comfortable with the whole idea of giving up control.  She needs to trust you on a whole new level depending on how much control you want her to give up.

Happy your getting good results

Trainer81

[Qwerty]

09/19/2013 at 7:24 pm

Saw Faust’s comments anointed no post over the past 4 days and was baffled as I posted yesterday. It showed up yesterday but now is gone. So here is my up date.

Took trainer’s advice and backed off the master subliminal as giving up control is an issue my wife is working through and going the next step is a big step, so thank you trainer. Have gone back to SW and a new version of the arousal file. Sex has continued as well as oral at about an every other night pace. Last week I requested sex and wife quickly responded yes. This week the requests for sex have continued on my part and her responses have be come more emphatic and enthusiastic. She has even started asking if there is anything in particular o want to do that night. The enthusiasm has also continued into the sex, which is great.

The new arousal file involves some changes to the script and writing a secondary more primal, less grammatically correct script. This is based upon some reading I have been doing , so if I see any changes associated with this script I will be sure to share.

Overall we have hit a comfortable plateau but I am hoping to scale some more of the mountain.

[Fizbin]

09/20/2013 at 1:45 am

I did see your post, but it looks like there have been some more site updates over the last couple of days, so my guess is that a backup got restored after some of the experiments, and overwrote any recent posts.

[trainer81]

09/20/2013 at 2:54 am

Yes I’m aware of the issue from a few days ago.  This forum has some kind of feature for clearing posts but long story short I spent all day, today reading up on the issue.  It’s now turned off so no worries about loosing future posts, I didn’t know you guys posted at that time so I didn’t write a blog update.

Sorry for any inconvenience this may of caused anyone.  However this new forum is a lot better than the one we had before.

For the login, I upgraded that feature but it wasn’t working so I restored the old model.  Just trying to perfect the site so as long as this long function works will be keeping it.

 

All good as this forum and Dream Girls is still in beta

Trainer81

[Qwerty]

10/10/2013 at 5:37 pm

So quick up date.
Sex continues and is on demand. I ask for sex she enthusiastically agrees. Just over a week ago started two new files using a new technique that I inquired about in the gold forum. Results are looking promising. First file encourages her to be open to new sexual experiences and to embrace them. Last night during sex I started spanking her to which she responded by moaning, grinding and eventually cumming. She also told me last night how much excitement going to the sec shop has brought into our sex life and how she wants to go back and find some new things we can play with.

Second script encourages her to have an overwhelm desire to give oral when ever she see my penis. Currently this has manifested in her looking at my groin then my face when I enter a room, her unconsciously licking her lips when she sees my penis and some part of her body constantly in contact with my groin when we watch tv at night. All positive signs but no sign of a need for oral outside of sex in the bedroom, still it is early in the length of exposure.

Overall a positive couple of weeks with no noticeable backsliding since stopping the arousal script.

[Fizbin]

10/10/2013 at 8:10 pm

As always, a heartfelt congratulations for some enviable results! Even your interim changes sound very worth while…

[Qwerty]

10/17/2013 at 6:46 pm

Thanks Fizbin. This week has been good. Sex has occurred upon request, and is happy and enthusiastic. Two days ago we had sex with hot wax and she was getting into it by moaning when it was put on and continually messaging in the oil from the candle on her breasts. She was very much into it.

Also that same day my wife recieved her teaching credentials and during sex that night told me how she wanted to dress up like a naughty teacher who needs sex with one of her students and needs that student to discipline her for being so naughty. This is so far out of her norm. Firstly she has never shown any interest in dressing up. In fact her comments to putting on sexy lingerie is why it only has to come off. But here she was telling me during sex about the outfit she wanted to were and with each iteration the outfit was getting sluttier and sluttier and she was getting more and more tuned on by this (my current file has a couple of lines about her loving to dress sexy/exoticly/ slutty for me and that it makes her feel good).

My wife has also now taken to coming down in the evening in cute trashy lingerie or stripping down to being naked while we watch tv. In her lingerie her breasts are continually “falling out” and whether naked or in lingerie I have caught her playing with her nipples absently while she is watching tv. Again these behaviors are not anywhere in the realm of normalcy for her but have happened 4 out of the past 5 nights. The one night she did not was last night. During last night I told her she should take of her cloths and get comfortable. To which she replied could she just expose her breasts. I agreed. Then later that night I told her she would be more comfortable without any cloths to which she agreed and took off all her cloths. So even though she started off fully clothed, she eventually ended up naked. A win I would say.

One unintended result from my current script is that my wife is happy to share our sex life both current and past with any of our friends at the drop of a hat. This I think is due to her being proud of our sex life (a line in the current file). It is interesting seeing how the mind interprets things.

[cms]

10/18/2013 at 12:00 pm

This whole bloody thread all I’ve really been able to say is “wow”. This latest post is certainly no exception! It really seems that you have been able to get directly to specific wording that went right to the heart of what would work for her.  Additionally, it sounds like you have an exceptionally receptive wife.  Combine that with reinforcement of good behavior by your words and action and you, my friend, are sitting smack dab in a trifecta of WIN! 

[Qwerty]

10/18/2013 at 3:16 pm

Cms,
Thanks for the complements but as I have told Faust my progression has not been smooth. Even now with every couple of steps forward there is a step back, it is just now the time that we dwell on the back slides is minimal and usually she can now be incouraged out of the back slide with minimal effort. The main thing I can say is look for the little things, both good and bad, and incourage or discourage those little things. That is what leads to her “listening” to her new inner voice and the more she accepts this new inner voice as her own the easier it is to add the behaviors you want and suppress the behaviors you dont.

As you pointed out in another post cms, the use of language is also very important. As the title of this post suggests I wanted my wife to become more slutty like she was when she had too much to drink, but in my inital scripts the use of the word slutty seemed to make my wife want to get drunk to the point of passing out rather than just want more sex. The word kinky is something she seems to be more open to accepting as part of her norm. That is why custom scripts are more powerful.

[cms]

10/18/2013 at 5:30 pm

Qwerty,

I certainly understand how different viewpoints give different feelings on progress.  Although you are getting these backslides, you ARE making positive headway. And I should add that this headway is in a pretty damned short amount of time! I know everyone else only seems to see the movement forward while you see the backslides with excruciating clarity. Don’t be to harsh on yourself about them.  Simply adjust and move forward.  Though, from my readings and painfully little experience, perhaps sometimes the adjustment needed is within rather than without.  Perhaps it’s only to stay the course. I wish you only the best of luck and look forward to reading more of your progress. 

[Qwerty]

10/18/2013 at 6:59 pm

Cms,
You are absolutely right about forward progress and don’t get me wrong I love the progress my wife has made I just wanted to warn you when you are in the weeds it will not be a smooth ride. Do not get disheartened if things go sideways it happens. Have a plan, keep to it, and remember to read your journal often as it shows you where you where, where you wanted to go and the progress you have made towards that goal.

[Tap]

10/19/2013 at 12:18 am

Qwerty,

How many files are in your playlist nowadays? Also, how many affirmations do you have per file? Do you concentrate mostly on sex files? I see that you’re having great success with sex. I feel with more info, we can all try to replicate that.

[themistocles]

10/20/2013 at 2:55 pm

Hey Qwerty,

Can you upload the overwhelming desire for Oral in the script section?  Would like to see how you pulled that off.

Thanks man!

[Tap]

10/21/2013 at 12:30 am

I second what themistocles said. It’s great you’re having so much success. It would help all of us if you share some scripts and ideas. After all, I think that’s a big part of us sharing our info in the journals to help everyone out.

[Qwerty]

10/21/2013 at 3:49 pm

Thermistocles and Tap,
I have put my scripts up in gold forum later today as well as the recording methods for each file. I am currently only running two scripts and neither breaks the 3 minute make when recorded so there is a lot of repetition.

[Qwerty]

10/24/2013 at 2:05 am

Just a quick up date. Today I asked my wife what is the kinkiest thing I could buy her and she told me we don’t do anything kinky so why would I ask that question. This is interesting in that we have done hot wax, favored body paint, a small amount of spanking and me holder her hands down while we are having sex. In her mind none of this seems to be kinky or she is having a similar reaction to an earlier episode in the process in which she just does not believe she is doing anything kinky ( the earlier episode was her denying she was coming to bed naked when she had been doing so for two weeks).

[Qwerty]

11/04/2013 at 7:28 pm

Update.
I have been testing out the past couple of weeks my wife’s “need” for sex. So far the results have indicated that my wife will inquire about sex after 2 days without sex and becomes more aggressive and insistent by the end of day 3. I can also ask for sex on day 1 through 3 and still recieve the same enthusiasm. This indicates to me that the there is a base need but like all needs that it needs time to build before it starts to physically
manifest.

Also my wife is hyping up our next 30 days of constant sex. Two weeks ago she was indicating she wanted to make the 30 days of sex a yearly thing now she has said maybe we can make it a twice a year thing.

A new twist has been that my wife is now physically aroused by the act of givng oral sex to the point that she has visible damp spots on her underwear and cums quickly after giving oral. She also is proud of her ability to give oral and can at times get lost in her efforts while she is giving oral. This from a woman who did not like giving oral and had given oral only twice the previous year. Now it appears to be her preferred foreplay.

Finally my wife still is denying that she does anything kinky. I last asked her this question on the weekend as she was pouring hot wax on both of us during sex. I told her she was acting very kinky, which she denied, then said isn’t pouring hot wax on one another kinky, she agreed. Then I pointed out that that was what she was doing at that very moment, she came back that this is different. Also the hot wax has been totally her own idea, I did not even known she was in too hot wax as it has never come up. Overall I could not be happier with how things are progressing.

[Fizbin]

11/04/2013 at 10:26 pm

I definitely need to update my files!

[FaustsBoon]

11/05/2013 at 12:32 am

I’m there with you Fiz.  I’ve downright hit a wall, where sex has never gone beyond once, or maybe twice per week, with my wife usually being disinterested, or only moderately into it.  Aside from our anniversary, we’re pretty “stuck”.

Mind you, stuck is a world ahead of where we were in March… through June/July…. but i’m always envious of my friend Qwerty.  🙂

[Tap]

11/05/2013 at 1:46 am

I don’t think it’s possible for anyone to replicate Qwerty’s success. I still believe a large part of it is that Qwerty’s wife is extra susceptible to subliminal messaging, and she most likely has always been strongly sexual inside, but did not show it as much. The subliminals pushed her to her natural self.

FB,
I still think a submissive only file would help you out. My success with sex, while not as good as Qwerty’s, but still a stable 5 to 6 times every 2 weeks and more if she’s drunk, is in large part due to her wanting to satisfy me and her obeying me. It looks like padraid is having success also and I believe a part of it is his including such a file as well.

[padraid]

11/05/2013 at 12:43 pm

The success that I am starting to have in a area, I agree most likely is from her wanting to give up control. With my submissive file I am trying to give it a focus for what she has said she wanted, even though I am trying to expand on what she wanted some. 

Qwerty’s always gives us something to shot for. We may never hit the same level but even being 50% to 75% to his is good for me. 

Also want to thank y’all for reminding me to not change my files all the time and give them time to work. I have just 3 files that cover 90% right now and I will change the order of the 3 files to be what I need. 

[trainer81]

11/05/2013 at 7:29 pm

A new program idea giving up control

Thanks,

Trainer81

[Qwerty]

11/23/2013 at 3:13 pm

So it has been a couple of weeks since my last post. Since my last post I had what I thought would be a catystrophic event. See I had made a new file and was playing it when suddenly the subliminal became not subliminal. Apparently when I applied nyquist to the file I did not do so to the whole file. As those have been following my journal know I am playing the subliminals without my wife knowing. Anyway there was a big blow up as you can imagine. However the next day an interesting thing happened my wife was over the incident and in fact was sorry for the way she acted. This took me by total surprise as something like this would have lead to me being verbally assulted for the next couple of weeks usually. In fact I am so programmed to duck and cover that it took me a couple of days to come down off heightened alert as I was waiting for the tyrates to begin. But they never did. Intact the next day she was asking me to have sex with her as she really needed it. Last night was the first time she had brought up the incident since it happened two weeks ago and all she said was that yesterday she was trying to remember something that had made her mad a couple of weeks ago when she remember the voices playing, but she loves me so much that there is no way she could stay made at me for something like that.

This episode has not slowed the sex or oral nor the need from her end which is amazing.

[hotaceazn]

11/23/2013 at 3:52 pm

That is amazing and really awesome. Considering the amount of time you spent playing the previous and the reinforcements, it is obvious that it all took.

[Tap]

11/23/2013 at 5:14 pm

Wow. I’m surprised she doesn’t care. So she knows they are playing now and let’s it play? That’s why after I make a file, I play it in winamp jumping through the whole file to make sure it’s all silent just in case.

[Fizbin]

11/24/2013 at 1:32 pm

Agreed! It sounds like not only did you dodge a big bullet, but inadvertently provided evidence of deep effectiveness!

That said, I agree with Tap – QA is critical! Even some of Trainer’s early files had “leakage” issues like that. Ironically, on the file that had the problem, my wife never noticed at all as I frantically worked to silence my phone. Though someone else did clearly notice the voice, I was able to pass it off as some natural phone function where I had “hit the wrong button”.

[FaustsBoon]

11/24/2013 at 4:48 pm

Hey man…  I know I have shared my congratulations off-site, but wanted to show my support here as well.  I still say you helped bring about a mini-rennessaince to this site, and all our methods.  We’ve all further along in our journey because of you, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

[Qwerty]

12/10/2013 at 7:54 pm

So it has been 7 months since I began this journal and boy how things have changed. I started this journey with a wife that was disinterested in sex in general, felt obligated to have sex once a week but often found excuses to reneg on that obligation, wanted nothing to do with any kind of sex outside of missionary and made me feel like a creep if I so much as tried to ask for sex outside of her schedule.

Now my wife wants sex almost every night no matter what is going on in our lives, she happily gives oral with out any prompting during sex, her kinky side is reving up to the point that got wax, spanking or me holding her hands down during sex is almost as common as us having aex. My wife is now constantly horny, tells me as much, and acts often on this horniness by asking if we can have sex. We have ventured outside of the bedroom when it comes to sex, her sex talk has gone from nothing to at times making a porn star blush and she is proud of the person she has become, bragging often to her friends about our sex life. She let’s me play with her breasts anytime I want and comes to bed naked nightly often encouraging me to play with her nipples, a vast change from giving me dirty looks if I so much as looked at her body.

The techniques found on this website and within this community really work. And so with all my success I think I am going to close this journal as I have achieved almost everything I set out to achieve. That does not mean I will not be around or that I will not start up a new journal when I come up with a new wish list, but for now atleast this journal has run its course. Thank you again to everyone for all their support and advice, without it I know I would not be where I am today.

[eldrin81]

12/10/2013 at 7:56 pm

Your journal is an inspiration to us all man.

[Tap]

12/11/2013 at 2:12 am

Qwerty congrats on your success.

[seekenq]

12/11/2013 at 5:10 am

Qwerty

Congrats and thanks for the inspiration.

[FaustsBoon]

12/11/2013 at 12:36 pm

Great job man.  Thank you for your input, your support, and your help.  🙂

[Fizbin]

12/11/2013 at 7:41 pm

Congratulations! I’m glad you have achieved your primary goals. Your success is the envy of everyone!

[trainer81]

12/11/2013 at 8:00 pm

Cheers and at Christmas time what a way to go