Starting wife training for improved marriage – silent only

[limited1]

02/18/2013 at 9:30 pm

Hi,

I’m looking for instructions or a roadmap on how to use this material. I’ve looked over this forum and the scripts, etc, and I really don’t have a clear answer. I will be using silent material only at night while she sleeps.

On 2/16, I started as I’m anxious for changes to take place. I’m using my phone for speakers (it’s about 6 to 8 ft away from her while she is sleeping. I started with the following scripts on my playlist repeating all night so she will receive 7 to 8 hours straight each night. I will not be doing anything during the day as she works full time. The playlist is:

-Silent converter
-His Happiness
-Wife CS
-Love,Honor, Obey

I found “My Marriage” script, and I will probably put in playlist in place of Wife CS.

Questions I have so far for “best practices”:

– Do I need to use the silent converter, or can I just start using files like His Happiness?
– Do I need to use the silent converter by itself at first? If yes, for how long?
– Do I give her a night off? If yes, when (after how many nights after I started), and for how long do I stop before I start again?
– I would like advice on my plan, and if my playlist is to heavy / to much to soon or not?

Suggestions are welcomed and appreciated. TIA

[DedicatedMaster]

02/18/2013 at 10:56 pm

The silent converter helps to prepare her mind. Depending on how submissive she already is, it might take some time or it might take no time at all. Hard to say sadly.
Giving her a night off is also a possibly risky move, but it could just let her mind take a break so it isn’t completely overwhelmed by the subliminal’s

Hopefully someone who has actually Used these tracks or used the converter will be able to give a more concrete answer, as my answers are all guesses. Best of luck.

[Fizbin]

02/19/2013 at 12:21 am

Hi Limited,

First, I think going with that kind of playlist right away is a bit much. Start with just the converter for a few days to a week. Then swap for one of the more basic files like Submissive Thoughts Wife and My Marriage.

Don’t go Sledgehammer until she is accustomed to listening to “her inner voice”. If you have ever seen the movie “Logan’s Run”, the sledgehammers are sorta like the “There is no sanctuary” hologram scene…

[limited1]

02/19/2013 at 8:53 pm

Quote from Fizbin on February 19, 2013, 00:21
Hi Limited,

First, I think going with that kind of playlist right away is a bit much. Start with just the converter for a few days to a week. Then swap for one of the more basic files like Submissive Thoughts Wife and My Marriage.

Don’t go Sledgehammer until she is accustomed to listening to “her inner voice”. If you have ever seen the movie “Logan’s Run”, the sledgehammers are sorta like the “There is no sanctuary” hologram scene…

Never heard of that movie/scene….now I know what you are referring to ! I’ll start withthe silent converter for a week, and then sub the MM track. Does it ever get to the point that you run more than one on a playlist?

Sorry for the questions, I just want to quickly fix my marriage issues and everything that goes along with it. Looks like I’m going to have to have patience, and buckle my seat belt for the marriage bumps in the meantime.

[Fizbin]

02/19/2013 at 11:23 pm

Patience is always a virtue here. These are definitely NOT meant as a “quick” fix. That said, some changes can happen faster than others.

It really depends on what you are trying to accomplish. i.e. Where are you starting, and where do you want to end up? Only then can you come up with the proper route. Think of each of the files as a step along that path.

Especially at first, it helps to keep the message simple and consistent. The files are meant to appear as her own “internal dialog” or “self talk”. Most of them are short, focusing on a single attitude or behavior. The longer files contain a lot of repetition, but also tend to follow a single “train of thought” to its logical (to the subconscious) conclusion.

As long as you keep those general principles in mind, after a while you can start combining files for cumulative effect.

[limited1]

02/25/2013 at 11:12 pm

I appreciate the input. This is of course new, and I want to do whatever is going to be the most effective. A quick background of the situation, as I realized in my haste to get this off the ground quickly, I neglected to paint the scenario.

I’ve been married 15 years, and have two kids that are still in the house. My wife told me right after the holidays that she didn’t feel conneceted to me anymore, didn’t see ourselves being married after our kids graduated college, and would probably want a divorce when they are graduated. The good news is my kids are in middle school, so I have 11 years to change things. I told her that I don’t believe in divorce, and this wasn’t acceptable. I asked her to put time, effort & energy into to saving our marriage like I am willing to do, but she said she is not interested into investing anymore time or energy into our marriage. Basically, she is putting our marriage on auto pilot until our kids are gone.

If she is not going to participate in fixing our marriage, then I needed to find something to push her towards making our marriage better and participate in fixing. So that’s my situation, and that is what led me to here to find something that is going to get here totally focused on our marriage and making improvements along the way.

We are cordial to each other, and will small talk, talk about things that involve our kids, but no talk of future plans that don’t involve our kids (short term or long term). There is no holding hands, no kissing, no intimacy, no sex. I’m looking for improvment in all these areas along with my marriage being repaired.

My goals / game plan is this:
1.) Improve our marriage back to where it was before my kids were born
2.) Improve our sex life back to pre-kids to a minimum of once per week
3.) Improve other areas of our sex life like oral (in the past, she would recieve from me but never recipricate and give back)

So these are the files I’m thinking about executing :
1.) MM
2.) HH
3.) FDC
4.) Wife CS
5.) LHO
6.) LMH

I appreciate any input / ideas about how to proceed.

Here is my latest update……I was gone on business the last 5 days. Right before I left, and while I was gone, I had the silent converter playing the entire time. Her actual exposure to this file would be for 8 hours each night while sleeping, for a total of 5 nights .

When I returned home yesterday, I started the MM silent file.

I will make updates to this journal, once I have observations to share.

[Fizbin]

02/26/2013 at 5:03 am

Thanks for the update, and the background!

In your case, I think you need to put some emphasis on files that strengthen her feelings, rather than specific behaviors at this time. Use scripts that explicitly include that she loves you. I know I suggested delaying introducing the sledgehammers, but in your case a solid hit of LHO, along with My Marriage and either Husband’s Authority or Wife Identity might actually be in order.

Another option is to use Submissive Thoughts Wife, along with the Ownership series. (I suggest that because Ownership emphasizes the term Master, for which STW has a lead in.)

Finally, you may want to consider going the custom route, either DIY through Gold, or having Trainer build you a custom Ownership set (same script, but with your name instead of Master).

[Fizbin]

02/26/2013 at 7:17 am

P.S. Specifically, Ownership 1 – which is subtitled “Devoted Love”.

[limited1]

02/27/2013 at 3:05 pm

Thanks for the suggestions on scripts that talking about feelings that she loves me. I think your right that I need to get her in the mindset that she loves me, before I use any tracks that are specific behavior / direction oriented. I started her on the following silent tracks last night: MM, LHO, I Love My Husband.

I will update once I have some observations to share.

[Fizbin]

02/28/2013 at 6:12 am

From a script standpoint, that should be a good combination. One thing to consider is that those files are not recorded at the same level. LHO is significantly “louder” than the others, and ILMH is so quiet there is almost more noise than message. Therefore, they may not be quite as effective as a “set”. Still, she will almost certainly get full exposure to LHO, which is probably what she needs most at this point.

If, as you implied in another message, you do get the gold kit. I suggest starting with making a customized version of ownership 1, replacing the various instances of Master with your name and my Husband. (different instances for each)

[limited1]

02/28/2013 at 3:05 pm

I’m considering gold, but I want to see what effects the current tracks have on my wife. If I see they work, then I definitely will upgrade to Gold to customize tracks to my situation.

You have an interesting point on the different sound levels for the different tracks. If I got the Gold package, I could potentially rework the existing tracks and customize any other tracks at the same sound level, couldn’t I?

Is there another forum for Gold? Is there more interaction in it? I ask as I really haven’t seen very many posts in this forum.

[Fizbin]

02/28/2013 at 9:00 pm

Yes there is a separate area for gold members, and extra downloads as well. I understand it is fairly quiet lately as well, but I wouldn’t know for sure. I plan to go Gold eventually. I just haven’t been in a super hurry to upgrade simply because I already had been making files of my own before the Dreamgirls DIY program was offered. Most of the tools and some knowhow are available elsewhere, but Trainer81 does a really good job of consolidating everything you need in one place.

Fixing up existing tracks is pretty difficult without the master files. Each phase of processing you try to do degrades the quality somewhat, and it is virtually impossible to push the levels of the quieter tracks and get anything decent out of them.

Definitely stick with the existing files for a while, though. One option might be to do alternating nights of LHO and My Marriage, though tweaking your playlist every night might arouse suspicion rather than the feelings you’re trying to cultivate.

A playlist I’ve been fond of is: Submissive Thoughts wife, Good Wife 1955’s (It says part 1, but I haven’t seen any sign of part 2 yet), Husband’s Authority, Wife Identity. I’ve also got a few homemade custom tracks that I play as a set.

[limited1]

03/11/2013 at 4:22 pm

A quick update…..I have had her on the following silent tracks in a continuous loop, while we sleep, since 2/26 (roughly 13 nights ):
1.) MM
2.) ILMH
3.) LHO

No visible changes to date to her disposition or attitude, except that she doesn’t seem to be talking to me as much. Just answers my questions, but isn’t iniiating conversation like she was previously. Her priority is on our kids and that is about it.

My plan is to continue to let these three silent tracks keep playing at night while we sleep. I would have thought I would have seen something by now ?

[tonguester4_69]

03/11/2013 at 5:16 pm

That in itself, may be an indication of an effect of the scripts working.If in her mind she has decided a course of action, the first step in altering it would be reconsidering it.Kind of like any moving object-it has to stop before it can reverse directions.Give it some time,she may be just reconsidering things.Remember,things didn’t get like this overnight,it’s going to take time to change them.

[Fizbin]

03/12/2013 at 10:38 am

I agree. There probably are some internal changes going on. There is also the possibility of repetition fatigue. Change up your set a little bit for a week or so. I would pull LHO out and slide in either Wife Identity and/or Good Wife 1955.

In the mean time, be gentle, be patient. Maybe ask her for some little things (that she might otherwise do anyway), but at a time of your choosing rather than at a “habitual” time. Express appreciation for anything she does do (e.g. compliment her on her cooking or how she is taking such good care of some issue with the kids.) Maybe some simple physical contact – e.g. a hand on her shoulder or the small of her back if you come up from behind when you deliver your compliment.

Tell her you love her. Show her you still love her (use her “Love Language” if you know it). After a week or two of the new mix, including some proactive behavior and positive reinforcement from you, perhaps you’ll see even more drastic change.

[limited1]

03/14/2013 at 8:13 pm

Thank you both for the feedback. I don’t know what to think. I just returned from a business trip after being gone 2 days and I thought she might more talkative when I returned, but I was wrong…..Just saying the minimal to me.

I will adjust the playlist a little. I’m going to start the following starting tonight (all silent tracks):
1.)ILMH
2.)Silent Converter
3.)GW 1955

Do you think this is too many changes at once….changing 2 of the 3 ? I only had her on the silent converter for 5 days before I started, so maybe she needs some more to get her accept, that is the thought for the silent converter.

Do you think I should add His Happiness at any point or just keep going with what I have done above?

[Fizbin]

03/15/2013 at 1:51 am

It is hard to say. This may be a situation where you need to have a new heart-to-heart. She may very well be self-conflicted at this point as the new thoughts are taking hold. Sort of “I thought I had this figured out, but now I don’t know what to think.”

This is one of the reasons I’d love to see you try a personalized version of Ownership 1 – it covers all of the facets of falling in love, rather than just stating it.

In any case, it certainly wouldn’t be out of line to ask her if something is wrong. Maybe she’s converted to the point of being willing to try the couples counseling.

[Fizbin]

03/15/2013 at 1:59 am

P.S. Don’t assume you know how she’s feeling or why. Definitely don’t tell her! His Happiness probably wouldn’t hurt, but let’s see how the new playlist goes for a while.

[limited1]

03/20/2013 at 3:24 pm

Fizbin,

Thanks for the comments and suggestions. I started on 3/14 what I notated above- “ILMH”, “Silent converter”, “Good Wife 1955”.

A few days later, she asked for permission to do a few things. One was to go visit her brother (& his wife) out of state for the baptism of their newborn baby. I was fine with it, but I pushed back a little to see what would happen, and she immediately said “I will not go then” in a tone that was not mad or anything condescending in manner. I said she could go, and she asked me “are you sure it will be alright”? Now, I’m not sure that she said this because it was an out of town / state trip where she has to fly (she rarely travels out of state), and she was looking for an excuse not to go, but I don’t think so. In the past if it’s family related (her’s), she has felt compelled to go no matter what……I might have made some progress with her!

I haven’t had a heart-to-heart with her yet, as I haven’t looked at this board since my last posting. I think it’s a good idea to see what she is feeling now compared to 2 months ago. I will have to work it in this week, and I’m hoping for good news.

I’m also going to get upgraded to Gold soon (I’m waiting for Trainer to update my account)to execute your advice in previous posts about a personalized version of Ownership 1. If you have additional thoughts on this I would like to hear them.

In the short term though (until I’ve had a chance to customise some tracks), I am going to go another week on ILMH, silent converter, & Good Wife 1955. After that I might remove one, and put His Happiness in. Thoughts?

[tonguester4_69]

03/22/2013 at 2:26 pm

It sounds like you’ve made excellent progress. Congratulations! I would advise that when you notice positive changes you let her know that you appreciate her efforts.In a way of course that doesn’t give away what you’re doing.As for changing the playlist, that depends on what happens when you have your talk with her. To know what would help you need to know what she’s thinking. It’s really good to hear that you seem to be making progress with her as I hate divorces,indeed it’s not an option for me in my marriage.Good luck in your efforts!

[limited1]

03/22/2013 at 3:34 pm

Update:

I had a talk with her last night and it was very brief. In a nutshell, I asked her how she thought our marriage was now, compared to what she was thinking in early January about us not being together after the kids graduate college (for background see my earlier posts in this thread).

She didn’t get mad, but I think was kind of irritated that I asked, and shut down immediatley about the subject after making these comments:
1.) She said “I didn’t know that I was going to be quizzed about this later”
2.) She said “I don’t want to talk about it”

The timing could have been bad on my part as she wanted to watch 20 minutes of TV, and then the weather, and then go to bed. So maybe that influenced her brief answer.

I don’t know what to think exactly by her comments except that maybe she doesn’t know how she feels about her earlier statements in January and maybe she is reconsidering them…not sure. I will give it a few days and ask her again. It is difficult to find time though as she works full time, our kids are in a bunch of activities, so it doesn’t leave much time at night to talk alone, and have free time alone.

I think I’m going to continue to stay on “ILMH”, “Silent converter”, “Good Wife 1955” for another week and that will have given her two weeks exposure to this loop.

I appreciate everyone’s thoughts,comments, feedback, and direction.

[Fizbin]

03/22/2013 at 6:58 pm

Well, I’m not sure that was exactly the best approach from a discussion standpoint. Recall that I specifically said not to imply that you had any knowledge of what she was thinking or why. Better would have been along the order of “You haven’t been very talkative lately. Is everything OK?” or “Is something on your mind?” VERY open ended, and let her bring up whatever subject she wants.

But now, you’ve resurrected and potentially reinforced her thoughts about splitting up. Today is definitely a “buy flowers and apologize” day. You might be able to pivot it back to the open-ended subjects, with “I’m sorry about last night. I shouldn’t have brought that up, but you haven’t…” However, depending on how she responds you will probably have to drop it for now.

[tonguester4_69]

03/23/2013 at 3:44 am

I agree with Fizbin on this one. No good can come from bringing up the past, Better to assume the files are working and act as if the conversation about splitting up never happened.Bringing it up only serves to remind her that she felt that way at one point.Your goal should be to make her forget she ever felt that way.If you’ve never read “The Five Love Languages” I suggest you check it out. If she feels loved by you, she will be much more willing to become the wife you want her to be.True submission has to be willingly given and if she doesn’t trust that you love her, she’s not going to be willing.I wouldn’t bring it up again-as Fizbin said, just tell her you noticed she’s been quiet lately and ask if everything is OK.If she says she doesn’t want to talk, then let her know if she does want to later, you would be glad to help if you can.

[limited1]

03/23/2013 at 4:49 pm

I appreciate the feedback. She has actually been somewhat talkative since I talked to her the other night. I’m new at this,learning as I go along, and I think you are both right about not bringing the past up again. Having the talk didn’t reveal anything either way, so I’m not going that route again.

I’m going to continue to stay on “ILMH”, “Silent converter”, “Good Wife 1955” for another week and that will have given her two weeks exposure to this loop. Then I will have to figure out what to adjust…. like maybe bringing LHO back or HH until I get the Gold membership, and customize some tracks.

[Fizbin]

03/25/2013 at 11:10 am

Thanks for the update. If anything, you should be able to drop the converter sooner than the others. Otherwise, just keep things simple, observe, and show appreciation when she exhibits desirable behaviors.

[limited1]

04/03/2013 at 3:42 am

I’m still continuing on ILMH, Amy Silent Converter, and GW1955 until this weekend. No real updates as I have seen about the same disposition (better than where we started).

I bought the Gold package, so I will be customizing a few tracks…..specifically Submissive Thoughts Wife, along with the Ownership series Devoted Lovb as Fizbin suggested. What are everyone’s thoughts on adding phrases that tie “husband” / “my name” together to make the non-customized tracks more effective. An example would be :

I am comfortable with my husband, “my name”
my husband, “my name” makes me comfortable.
I enjoy being with my husband, “my name”.
my husband, “my name” is a caring man.
I enjoy being with my husband, “my name”
my husband, “my name” is a caring man.
I feel good when I hear my husband, “my name” voice.
my husband, “my name” is a loving man.
my husband, “my name” voice makes me feel safe and secure.
my husband, “my name” is a loving man.
Everytime I am with my husband, “my name” I become closer and closer to him.

Thoughts?

PS- It’s nice to see more activity in these forums !

[Fizbin]

04/03/2013 at 4:11 am

I wouldn’t put them together like that, though you might choose to substitute “my Husband” and your name at various points. But having paid for gold, you might push customization questions into that forum going forward.

[limited1]

04/03/2013 at 11:02 pm

Fizbin,
I started a thread in Gold for comments and suggestions. Hope to see you there.

I will keep updating this journal if others are interested….not sure how many that is based on the responses I have seen

[Fizbin]

04/04/2013 at 12:23 am

The key is not so much the number of responses, but the number of reads. This is a pretty popular thread. Keep on updating, and I’ll see you on the other side, too.

[FaustsBoon]

04/04/2013 at 12:59 pm

As Fiz said, please don’t mistake lack of responses for disinterest. When I signed up I read every single post on these forums, and greatly appreciate your experiences and your sharing them. I hope you will continue. Hell… at the least… it makes me feel a little less alone in embarking on something I would’ve felt was silly, had you asked me a year ago.

[trainer81]

04/06/2013 at 2:28 am

I’ve also read the entire thing up to this point. I wish you good luck in your endeavors buddy. Gold has a separate forum? If I upgrade to gold can I post on both forums? (I’ll probably keep a journal on both if possible)

[Fizbin]

04/06/2013 at 1:37 pm

Yes, Gold has a separate forum, and yes, you can post to both. however, the forums are completely different formats. Gold is more free-form threaded, with no set topics. This one is much more organized, and it is easier to see when posts are updated.

[limited1]

04/08/2013 at 3:50 pm

Quote from FaustsBoon on April 4, 2013, 12:59
As Fiz said, please don’t mistake lack of responses for disinterest. When I signed up I read every single post on these forums, and greatly appreciate your experiences and your sharing them. I hope you will continue. Hell… at the least… it makes me feel a little less alone in embarking on something I would’ve felt was silly, had you asked me a year ago.

I appreciate the comments and I’m right there with you if you would have asked me a year ago also……

I like reading & participating in these threads as it gives me new ideas,and encouragement to keep going on these programs. It amazes me how everyone has such different experiences and degrees of success in varying time frames. The threads also help me in looking for signs of progress in my specific situation. Best of luck to you in your situation.

[FaustsBoon]

04/08/2013 at 3:59 pm

Thanks man! The same warm wishes to you as well. Thus far I am feeling like I have had shockingly dramatic, and quick results… but I don’t know how much of that is placebo-effect, and my own being much more assertive, versus the program. Either way… I keep on going and hoping for the best for all of us, and our wives/girlfriends/etc…

[limited1]

04/10/2013 at 8:38 pm

From 3/14 to 4/6 I looped the following silent tracks together and had them playing at night while we slept:
1.)ILMH
2.)Amy Silent Converter
3.)GW1955

My results to date:
1.) My wife seems to be a little bit more engaged now and has a better disposition overall.
2.) There have been no negative remarks about our marriage
3.) She has only challenged me once (on a project I was working on for the house that she really wants done)and she quickly backed down, and said “its your decision on what you want to do”. She just asked if it was possible that could I complete it quicker and quickly dropped the subject.
4.) She has totally supported all decisions concerning family matters and our kids

While the happy feelings, good times, and intimacy/sex I want back for our marriage is not there yet, I believe I have made some progress in our marriage.

The good news……I purchased a gold membership and made my first custom track that I’m going to start tonight. I’m very excited about this as it will be a custom version of Ownership/Devoted Love that has my name in it along with a few mentions of intimacy and sex. I really hope that having my name in it, will hit home with her and be more effective. I’m excited to see what results I will have with it as I’m looping in with two other tracks, so I will have the following playlist for the next two weeks (at a minimium):
1.) ILMH
2.) GW1955
3.) Custom Ownership/Devoted Love

I hope to be able to report on news like FaustsBoon and ACW74 have had. I know I’m starting from a lot farther back in the pack (so to speak) with the marriage issues that I have had, but I’m being positive about this, and I’m trying to be confident that this is going to work out and repair my marriage. I’m just trying to stay focused on being slow & steady, and not jump around Later.

[FaustsBoon]

04/10/2013 at 10:30 pm

Good luck man! It sounds like you have a terrific, focused, plan, and know to expect slow progress. You’ve done everything you can, at this point… now just see how it goes. I’ll be rooting for you!

Meanwhile, as others have told me, expect good and bad days, even if everything is working. I have been pulling my hair out for three days seeing my results go from jaw-dropping, to barely-there, but i’ve got to believe things are still happening.

[FaustsBoon]

04/10/2013 at 10:36 pm

Oh, and I appreciate the detail-rich, scientific-method-esque report/post. I hope i’ve started a trend. :p

If the program holds up to this level of scrutiny, and works for the majority of us… i’ll be the first one to pull every media contact i’ve got to help promote this system for Trainer!

[limited1]

04/15/2013 at 7:55 pm

Nothing to report on any type of progress. The status is about the same to a little worse, since my report on 4/10. Not what I want, but have to stay positive and see this playlist run it’s course for a few more weeks before I make any changes.

[limited1]

04/29/2013 at 2:50 pm

Small update. I created a custom script with my name in it for Devoted Love. Things seem to be improving each week from a communication standpoint, and she seems “warmer” towards me. I haven’t made leaps and bounds like some of you have posted, but we are defintely moving in the right direction.

[trainer81]

04/29/2013 at 4:22 pm

As long as progress is being made and you’re headed in the right direction all is well, no matter what the pace. Trust me I’ve plateau’d on making progress for years. Just keep it up and don’t give up! we’re all with you.

[limited1]

05/13/2013 at 4:23 pm

Update on my status and plans…..Again, things are progressing smoothly. Communication seems to be better, her attiitude towards me seems to be more positive, she is deferring to me more on decisions (not questioning me as much), so I think things are continuing to head in a positive, healthy direction. I am looking for crystal clear signs this is working, so I decided to update my scripts after about 30 days.

With the above in mind……..on Thursday 5/9, I started the following scripts:

1.) Sub Thoughts Wife / Good Wife 1955 Custom script- I combined the best elements of both into one. This is keeping continuity with the scripts that just ended (ILMH, Good Wife 1955, Custom Ownership / Devoted love custom script)
2.) HH sledge – new, as I want her to focus on myself and my happiness more, and I want to see the effectiveness of a sledge
3.) FDC (dress code) custom script- like FB and others I am skeptical if these are working or not, so I want to see some results that are more clear.

I really want to put some scripts in like Wife CS, libido , etc, to see clear results and have some personal satisfaction at the same time . With that being said, I feel like I needed to re-build our foundation from the beginning since she was hinting at divorce, not being together when our kids are out of the house, etc., when I started on this course earlier in the Spring.

It’s tough also to gauge progress since I travel so much for work and good heart to heart communication can be difficult being in different time zones. I wonder if that is why some of you are have quicker results than I am ?? Time will tell I guess, and I have my fingers crossed for continued progress, and clear results that I can see.

[Fizbin]

05/15/2013 at 11:49 am

I totally get the multiple timezones thing. I don’t recall – do you have the ability to leave the files active for her when you aren’t present, or is her exposure weekends-only?

One of the reasons I came up with my “homecoming” script is to help shift her thoughts from the imposed independence of my absence to a more interdependent mode for when I’m actually home, and hopefully correct any backsliding that may take place during the week. I’ve only had that up for a net 3 nights of exposure (ditto the new playlist) so I can’t really judge the effectiveness yet.

[limited1]

05/15/2013 at 7:46 pm

Fiz,

Sounds like you and I have a similar situations with travelling. I try and leave it looping to play continuously while I’m gone. I sometimes hesistate to do that though because of the kids (one will sometimes sleep in our bed with my wife while I’m gone). Sometimes it just stops playing the files (old iphone3)while I’m gone.

I will have to take a closer look at your homecoming theme. It’s posted in the gold forum correct? I thought my devoted love custom would kind of cover that while I’m gone, but I don’t know as the results are mixed….I had phrases in there like I’m lonely when husband is gone, etc. maybe I have backsliding happening? I appreciate your input.

[Fizbin]

05/16/2013 at 1:55 am

Yeah, I would be hesitant to play the files where the kids can hear them on a regular basis. Remember, they can truly hear into the range the subliminals reside.

[limited1]

05/29/2013 at 2:53 pm

I haven’t posted in awhile, so I thought I would provide two updates.

1.) I moved away from my silent custom STW / GW1955 and custom FDC and replaced with Trainer’s stock FDC and GW1955. I did this becuase these were the first customs that I had made and I wasn’t sure if I had completed them properly or not. I saw a few other posts about analyzing files, so I played both files in Windows media player using the “bars” option underneath visualization and nothing was appearing…..With that in mind, I made the switch to the stock files ASAP, as I didn’t want to waste 30 days and have nothing to show for it.

Fiz / others, I would appreciate some suggestions on how to analyze these files after I create in silent mode to see if they are “good” or not. It seems the WAV files are working but after I convert to silent and into MP3 files, I’m not sure.

2.) Using the stock files since 5/9 :
a.) HH
b.) GW1955 pt1
c.) FDC for husband

She has been on her period for the last 7 days so her attitude hasn’t been the greatest- not good, not bad.

However, she might be reacting to the FDC file. She has always dressed fine for work and wear a dress or skirt once or twice a week. However for the last roughly 10 work days, she has worn a dress or skirt everyday except for one. The one time that she didn’t, she wore some new (very flattering) dress pants that I had purchased for her. I noticed she has been looking at some websites browising foe new blouses, and this weekend she came home with a new dress that she had purchased…..Nice colors, trendy,very feminine, and could be worn for work or for a nice evening out on the town. She put it on this morning and WOW, form fitting, hugging her body, flattering her body like I had never seen before. Very CUTE and very SEXY! I asked her if she had a big meeting at work today, and she said “no, it’s a very boring day with a few conference calls, but I wanted to look nice”. If this is a sign of things to come, I can’t wait.

I hope I’m not overeacting, but I am a half glass full type of guy, and I’m trying to remain positive about all the other files and hope that good things are manifiesting beneath the surface.

[Fizbin]

05/30/2013 at 12:06 am

Congratulations on the preliminary success. Don’t forget to reinforce by complimenting her.

As for the analysis, it is fairly simple. Look at the waveform in Audacity when you export the MP3. Maybe take a screen shot. Close audacity and re-open your new MP3 file. Compare that to the one you saved. If you get a flatline (which is possible), try doing an amplify to a positive number (the default should automatically do so) and see if you get a waveform. If not, the MP3 is no good (probably a bad down-sampling). try to regenerate it with a different sample rate.

[Tap]

05/30/2013 at 12:14 am

Fiz,

That’s an interesting way to check. Since I deleted my wav file already, would you say that if you hear chirping it’s safe to say that the script is intact? I upped the amp to -30 so the chirping is a bit louder. I’m thinking it’s good because she’s cooking for me and cleaning more, which is part of my custom script.

[Fizbin]

05/30/2013 at 3:57 am

Yes, the “chirping” is the encoded wave. Technically, they aren’t truly “ultra” sonic because the output is within the range of ideal human hearing. However, most people over 20 start losing the highest part of their conscious range for various reasons. Fortunately, these files don’t rely on the traditional hearing sense. Rather they rely on the non-linear response of other elements within the ear cavity to essentially re-shift the upped frequency back into something the brain can subconsciously understand as communication.

As for the response to your not quite as attenuated file, I’m on record as saying I think lately Trainer has been recording at too low a level, so go for it! I actually don’t attenuate my custom files at all, I just turn down the playback volume!

[limited1]

06/07/2013 at 3:11 pm

Small Update….My wife is still progressing with the FDC file.

She made the comment last night that she needs to continue dressing nice at work to set the example / show her “underlings” ( she’s the department manager ) how they should be dressing. They should look professional , dress well, take pride in their appearance, wear skirts and heels, etc. instead of dressing like slobs, and generally having a lazy appearance. This is the first time that she has ever said something like this, so I ‘m guessing the FDC file must have her thinking about her appearance and how she should dress.

My focus in my next series of files will have to be a custom version of FDC f husband that uses the “FDC stock file” as the base, but I will add statements on what I would like her to wear underneath her clothes, in bed, and maybe grooming certain areas to my satisfaction.

[Tap]

06/08/2013 at 3:56 am

It looks like that FDC file is working well with her. It will be interesting for your wife in that since she is a department manager, she sort of has to be dominant for work. Actually, any manager in general has gotten to that point by being more of a leader and dominant in their personality. Hopefully, you can get her to be submissive to you yet dominant to others. That would take some skill indeed.

[limited1]

06/13/2013 at 2:40 pm

@Tap1 said:
It looks like that FDC file is working well with her. It will be interesting for your wife in that since she is a department manager, she sort of has to be dominant for work. Actually, any manager in general has gotten to that point by being more of a leader and dominant in their personality. Hopefully, you can get her to be submissive to you yet dominant to others. That would take some skill indeed.

 

 

@Tap1:

Thanks for the comments. Regarding the manager situation……It’s a very tough situation for me as I’ve wanted to use the STW track, but the verbiage could derail her career. She is VERY talented and VERY good at what she does, and I don’t want to hurt her career at all, as she will probably be a director in the next 12 to 18 months. The “A” personality at work /power thing has kind of hurt our marriage at the same time as it has bled into our personal life over time. With that said, I put together a custom file that talks about being submissive to husband only. If I can can get it to record into silent correctly, then I will roll out in the next few days. 

[limited1]

06/14/2013 at 9:32 pm

Update for everyone……I went on a vacation with the family for 5 days, so I couldn’t play any of my silent files with the kids in the same hotel room. The good news is nothing really changed in her behavior at all from what I could tell (this is good news, no back sliding)….She seemed to do things that were trying to keep me happy or less annoyed. An example was she asked if she could do more of the driving (usually she is content to drive about 1/3 of the time and that is it). My hope is these files haven taken hold, and I’m going to move to the next stage with files that are similar to the files that just ended, but have been customized.

I started last night the following files:

1.) LHO sledge (stock file) – want to reinforce wedding vows in her head, who is in charge, and basically wanted to try this file based on the success that many have had 

2.) STW / Good Wife custom file ( it actually works this time!) with mentions of sexual frequency and not saying no to my requests for sex. 

3.) FDC custom file – base file PLUS has mentions of what to wear to bed at night, sexier clothing, and I even threw in some personal grooming phrases.

My plan is to play these looped each night for at least the next 30 days. I have my fingers crossed for positive results.

[Fizbin]

06/16/2013 at 2:32 am

Congratulations on the “flying solo” test. Good luck with the new series!

[limited1]

06/26/2013 at 4:03 pm

A quick update for everyone that is interested.

I don’t have anything concrete to report on LHO sledge or the custom STW/GW 1955 combo, but it seems to me GENERALLYshe is listening better, and taking me into consideration when she is thinking about things,how it might effect me, and starting to use language like “would it be OK if I did this” ? Good stuff, I think !!  I’m hoping in the next 2 to 3 weeks that I can continue to report positive progress on that front, especially in some of the custom staements that I inserted into the STW/1955 Wife custom combo. So far, so good….slow and steady !!

On the FDC file, it (now two weeks in on my custom FDC file also ) is continuing to manifest….since I last posted two weeks ago:

1.) Purcahsed two new pairs of nice heels for work

2.) Purcahsed 3 new blouses

3.) Purchased new underwear (threw out 3/4 of what she had prior to this) that is more feminine

4.) Starting to ask my opinion a little on what she has purchased, and how they look. I’ve been sure to give her complimentary feedback.

5.) She isn’t wearing dresses as much as she was to work, but I think it’s because of the rotation of her clothes, and not because she doesn’t want to.

***As an aside….She said when she isn’t at work, she is more of a tshirt and shorts person instead of sun dresses. I told her I think she would look great in skirts and dresses and to give it a shot. I think her just telling me that though, that she is starting to consider wearing dresses when not at work. Am I  wrong thinking this? Her self confidence has never been that great in wearing skirts/dresses though (I think it is partly to having very small breasts with little cleavage) and would only wear when needed like to a wedding or occasionally for work….. I need to figure out how to boost her confidence ( from a messaging standpoint) as I’m thinking it my be female body issues perhaps? Something to work on….

[Tap]

06/26/2013 at 11:22 pm

I always thought that increasing a woman’s self confidence will make her become less submissive and more outspoken. It’s the shy and submissive ones that generally don’t think highly of themselves and have less confidence. It’s why I don’t play confidence files for my wife. However, off the top of my head, to increase her self body image you can try:

I love to wear skirts and dresses.
I have a good self image of my body.
I am comfortable wearing skirts and dresses.
I am a beautiful woman.
I have always been an attractive woman.
I am more attractive than a lot of women.

Something like that might boost her confidence in her body.

[FaustsBoon]

06/27/2013 at 11:47 am

I think most experienced “dominants” would tell you there is nothing wrong with inspiring confidence in your submissive, girlfriend, wife, etc…  In fact it is ethical, and right, to want to inspire a human being to be the best they can be, and love themselves.

Submission isn’t, or shouldn’t be about degradation…  Its trust, love, giving oneself over, etc…

A woman, like any other human, deserves to be self-confident, and I believe a confident woman is more likely to be able to trust fully, and thus give herself over to her husband, dom, whatever.

Food for thought… we’re here to better our lives, our partner’s happiness, openness, etc… not break anyone down.

[tonguester4_69]

06/27/2013 at 12:06 pm

      Submission isn’t, or shouldn’t be about degradation…  Its trust, love, giving oneself over, etc…                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Exactly! I believe submission is a gift our women give to us out of love and trust for and in us. Being a dominant is about helping her to reach her full potential.I think most of us just want to find the ON button to their sexual desires and behavior.:D                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              

[limited1]

06/27/2013 at 3:16 pm

My wife is does NOT lack confidence in many aspects of her life…..She is very intelligent, and a high performer /top of the class in most things she does, but especially at work. Trust me, my wife has PLENTY of self confidence in many aspects of her life, EXCEPT I’m starting to realize and believe more and more when it comes to her body. I’m starting to think that this has a somewhat of a correlation in how she has dressed (very conservative, doesn’t adapt to trends until they are very,very mainstream and widely accepted, etc) and possibly other areas like nudity and sex.

I truly beleive that I’m going to accomplish repairing my marriage and as T4_69 stated “want to find the ON button to their sexual desires and behavior” by being loving, positive, encouraging, and firm when needed, instead of being the opposite. I want to enjoy life every day with my wife and be able to wake up in the morning and know that I treated her in that way. Who wants to go thru life any other way….I don’t.

Tap1- I will have to agree to disagree with you on the woman’s self confidence aspect, but I appreciate your comments and feedback none the less as well as script thoughts as they are a very good starting point. T4_69 & FaustBoon, I feel the same way you do, so thank you for your words/thoughts.  

That’s why I like this community….everyone throws out their thoughts, viewpoints,guidance, and we have to weigh all of it and decide what can be applicable to our situation and overall goals. I do wish that we had more people participate though.

[Tap]

06/27/2013 at 11:31 pm

Well, if you think about the files on slavery, you’re basically telling her to be a slave. Anytime you’re putting slave ideas into someone, it is a form of degradation in a way. It’s putting them down. Perhaps I’m talking about slavery given the negative connotation of what society says slaves are, but no on really wants to be a slave.

It’s also hard to build confidence in a slave if you think about what a slave does. Perhaps, a woman can be a sex slave as a type of role play and still have high levels of confidence, but to be a slave all the time for someone generally probably means they don’t have a lot of confidence. If a person had extreme levels of confidence, that person wouldn’t be a slave.

Any girl who is submissive or shy generally doesn’t have too high of self confidence. That is an observation you can see in any girl.

I never said to lower and put down a girl’s confidence in the scripts. However, I don’t think it’s a positive for you if you try to raise her confidence. That is my opinion, but you don’t have to agree.

[limited1]

06/28/2013 at 3:46 pm

Tap1 –

I got your point about not building confidence, we just agree to disagree, that’s all….no worries. As far as slave files and confidence, I’m not using files on slavery, and really don’t have plans to based on my situation and goals.

[FaustsBoon]

06/28/2013 at 3:55 pm

For what it is worth “sex slave” has the unfortunate connection to everything people associate with the word “slave”.  

As i’ve said in my journal, there are schools of sexual slavery/servitude, that honor the woman’s CHOICE to live that life, enforce strict codes of respect, etc….  

Blanket understandings of a thing rarely lead to informed debate/discussions.

[MasterSouthernStar]

06/29/2013 at 6:10 pm

Limited;

             I think her reluctance to wear feminine clothing in a casual setting may be tied to the thing that so many females have of gauging their satisfaction of their dress against the opinion of other females.  These days you wear a dress when you don’t have to and other females ARE going to think you’re nuts.  The standard is to dress like men – unless for some special event.  Since she’s early on in the process she may still be thinking that people will think she’s weird if she dresses that way for casual.  She’s right of course but eventually she’ll learn to care more for her opinion – and apparently YOURS as well – than anyone else’s.  That’s when you can make progress.  It sounds to me like you’re on that track.  She’s already asking what you think of this and that.  She appears to want YOUR approval.  Now all you have to do is get her to value your approval more than she fears “society’s” disapproval.  Keep at it – you’ll get there.

Tap;

           I encourage you to reevaluate your concept of slavery.  Like so many words in our language that are emotional “hot buttons” that one gets nailed down early and put in a little box – protected so no one can broach it.  That’s what we do with those types of subjects in our society – lock them up ideologically in our minds.  Slavery need not be degrading to the slave and it’s certainly not putting anyone down in any way.  People are not equal and it’s not mean or bad to bring that idea out either.  Slavery is only degrading if you make it so.  AS with anything it’s not the stimulus, it’s your reaction to it.  I don’t mean to challenge your opinion- which you have every right to and I would not ever limit in any way.  I just think you may have overlooked some factors that may give you a more relaxed understanding of these ideas if you think about it a bit.  Whatever you’re good with – I am good with for you.  I’m just sayin is all…..

[limited1]

07/08/2013 at 8:28 pm

An update for everyone.

I think we have regressed since my last post and it pisses me off to no end…..Briefly, we went to her parents house over the July 4th holiday as her brothers and sisters came in from out of town like we did. I think the whole situation was not good for our relationship, and I think its because of the influence of her mother and how she treats her dad. She is a very nice lady and I like her alot….I knew she didn’t always treat him the best, but I didn’t really open my eyes to it until to this holiday weekend. Bossing him to to this around the house, do this around the house, why haven’t you done this as of yet, condescending tone and nagging,etc.

Then I look around and both of her brothers are kind of under the thumb of their wives as well. Her sister was kind of being the same way as the mother to her husband, but more in a joking type manner. After a couple of hours of being there it all started to sink in to me where she gets this BS from ( as well as societal influence) and how she reacted to it / me while we were there. Sure enough, her attitude starts changing more and more to my disliking at each day went by. When I expressed my displeasure in a calm manner to some of her actions/things she said, she didn’t say anything and tried to avoid / ignore me as much as she could the rest of our time there ( This was easy as there was 17 people in her parents house at all times ) and only talk to me briefly……Her family influence must be greater than I gave it credit for even with the files I played everynight on my phone while we were there. I’m glad we are 9 hours away driving time, and we only see them four to six times per year for a few days each time…..

I may have to rethink my strategy and what I have in my scripts….I am currently running the following (since 6/14):

1.) LHO sledge (stock file) – want to reinforce wedding vows in her head, who is in charge, and basically wanted to try this file based on the success that many have had 

2.) STW / Good Wife custom file -with mentions of sexual frequency and not saying no to my requests for sex. 

3.) FDC custom file – base file PLUS has mentions of what to wear to bed at night, sexier clothing, and I even threw in some personal grooming phrases.

We haven’t made any progress on files #2 and #3 so I’m wondering if my customs are bad ( didn’t record correctly ) or if they need more time to work.

I thought #1 was working, until we went to her parents house ( see above), etc and that derailed our progress in four days. We have been home a day and she still hasn’t changed her attitude much. I might need to rethink my strategy and re-tool as obviously her mom’s has a big influence on her as well as what she sees in the rest of her family’s actions as well. She did start her period on the last day we were there, so  I’m not sure what type of effect that had also.

Anyone else have this issue like I outlined above, and how did you address, certain scripts, type of phrases in script? TIA.

[Tap]

07/09/2013 at 12:44 am

Master,
Point taken that it’s all how you view the word slavery. It does have such a negative connotation that most women would object to being a slave of their husband.

Limited,
I see what you mean about the wives doing that to their husbands. Since the subliminals, I’ve realized a lot about relationship power dynamics. I see how my mom is exactly the same way to my dad as you described, with all the nagging. I also realized how probably because of that, I always sought women that were like that in a way, but it was the reason why I wasn’t that happy in those relationships. My first girlfriend was very submissive and all about pleasing me, but I let her go because it wasn’t what I wanted at the time. Social peer pressure is strong, and even with the subliminals, it’s difficult to fight that.

Your customs are probably made ok, but they possibly need more repetitions. Consider using just 2 tracks instead of 3 on a playlist. I think I remember you saying you just play it at night. If that’s the case, for maximum effect, 2 or maybe just 1 one looped all night might show more results.

[Fizbin]

07/14/2013 at 4:02 am

Wow! this has been quite the week for setbacks!

Give your wife few days of the normal programming to see if she comes back into phase. Remember, these thoughts have been almost constantly in her head for a while now. They will reassert themselves.

One thing you might do, though, given the extreme situation with her family, is to take a few lines from the “break up” script, but not targeted at taking her away so much as helping her realize how much happier her new way of life makes her. I might try to come up with a few sample affirmations and post in the appropriate forum.

[limited1]

07/16/2013 at 1:01 am

Update:

Two days after we returned home things started to progress back to the “new normal” or her attitude before we went to visit family. What a relief that is, and I’m amazed the influence that her family had on her behavior and actions while we were there visting. I’m glad I didn’t start some new tracks right away and kept playing the current tracks until the 30 days is up, which was yesterday. 

I feel the 3 files that I used in the last 30 days were moderately successful with LHO sledge, and FDC custom file that I created. The third file I don’t have a good read on as of yet.

I’m feeling that things are now back to normal now (the 30 days is up), and I’m going to move to the two new tracks, both sex related so I can see some concrete examples that these files are working. The two files I’m starting tonight (7/15) are :

1.) I love sex- husband : sledge that Trainer created

2.) Custom sex file : I based on Tap1’s custom file / language (sex part only), with some modifications.

The other thing is I’m moving from 3 tracks to 2 tracks, and they are both focused on single topic for the most part. Hope to be able to report some positive outcomes. 

[Tap]

07/16/2013 at 1:22 am

Limited, I hope your sex custom works. I think if you just played that in a 2 file format, you’ll get enough repetitions for it to be successful. If I played only my sex custom, I’m pretty sure I’d see great results. Part of my issue is I included cleaning and obedient stuff, so maybe the sex part doesn’t sink in as well because her subconscious gets hit up with a lot of ideas.

[FaustsBoon]

07/16/2013 at 5:28 pm

I agree with Tap.  Two files will obviously see dramatically more rotations in your playlist, and with them both being on the same topic, expect some results.  I will say, “I love sex” struck me as pretty potent, as it may well have been the thing which broke through my wife’s weird barrier that she’d put up.  Two weeks into it, and we’d had sex after not doing so for almost two months, but more dramatically, she completely forgot her goal of trying to take charge, and control our sex life.

I mean, don’t expect miracles… it might be a couple of weeks before you see anything… but i’d be cautiously optimistic.

I will say this though… consider longer hauls than 30-days.  I was a big believer in the 30-days, then new tracks, thing…. but I feel like it let nothing take hold in a really deep way.  I would suggest figuring out your absolute “must have” first goal…. one area to change completely…. Find the right one, or two tracks related only to that, and play them for months until their work isn’t just happening, but is complete.  That is my current plan, at least.

By my thinking… even if I can make one or two DRAMATIC changes, this year…. then that will be so much more meaningful than seeing vague signs of a dozen, fleeting, changes.

[limited1]

07/17/2013 at 2:42 pm

Tap1: I hope the custom works also….I really wanted to only use the custom file, but I don’t have the confidence yet that I produced it correctly. With that being said, I didn’t want to lose any ground from a timing standpoint, so I decided to use the ILS husband sledge that trainer had created, in conjuction with my custom based on yours . Each file is only 10 minutes long, so I figured I couldn’t lose using both files looped together to run contiuously each night with te topic being around sex. If the custom is working, I think i will be able to tell by some of the specific phrases that were used.

FB: I’m not expecting miracles right away with these files. As you can tell from reading my journal from the beginning, my marrriage was / is in bad shape in many areas (including sex), and I’m trying to repair quite a few things to avoid divorce down the road. I do feel I have made progress in fixing our marriage in some areas, and have a good feeling overall that things are headed in the right direct wit hthe help of these files. I’m willing to wait and use only one or two files at a time now, and play them for as long as it takes.

I’d really love to share some of the success that others have had like yourselves, but I’m not there YET (but I will be)! 

[tonguester4_69]

07/17/2013 at 6:11 pm

I would encourage you to have faith. The Bible says that God hates divorce, so that being your motivation, HE is on your side.

[limited1]

07/18/2013 at 3:27 pm

@tonguester4_69 said:
I would encourage you to have faith. The Bible says that God hates divorce, so that being your motivation, HE is on your side.

I do have faith and I know he is on my side….divorce is not an option for me. My wife used to feel that way, but one of her siblings was having marriage troubles (straightned them out though) and another sibling got divorced about 3 years ago (then remarried)….I think that kinda softened my wife’s view of marriage / divorce since it hit so close to home (so to speak), and she became more understanding / accepting of why people get divorces.

I feel my marriage is getting better and heading in the right direction, so I feel good about my marriage surviving….Is my marriage where it was before we started having issues…..NO but it’s getting more positive each week except for the minor setback July 4th holiday weekend. I attribute some of the success to the scripts ILMH, MM, GW55 part1, recently LHO, and with myself being more assertive, taking charge, and in being more in-control of our marriage.

I’m hoping for good things/examples to share like TAP1, Qwerty, FB (earlier successes), etc….My results to date haven’t been Ah Ha, holy cow moments, but more gradual – good , positive feeelings, and smoothing out, less rough edges/moments/feelings. 

[MasterSouthernStar]

07/27/2013 at 5:45 pm

Limited;

               I’ll be interested to know whether you feel that there is – or is not an advantage to the 2 files rotation over the three – after you’ve had it going for a while.  I’ve been using a three file rotation for a while now and been tinkering with the idea of going to two.  But I’d like to see if it really does help before I give up on the extra input of that third.  My girl listens to these almost all day every day – so in my case it may not be as important.  But I am interested.

Best of luck

MSS

[Tap]

07/27/2013 at 7:54 pm

Two is better than three all around because it’s less for her subconscious to deal with. However, 3 will work especially in your case if she listens to it every day all day. The 3 will get enough repetitions to be effective. My suggestion is to only switch to 2 if you are seeing her not improving for the better, or lacking in some aspects. If that’s the case, it might be too much for her subconscious to handle.

[limited1]

07/29/2013 at 4:17 pm

@MasterSouthernStar said:
Limited;

 

               I’ll be interested to know whether you feel that there is – or is not an advantage to the 2 files rotation over the three – after you’ve had it going for a while.  I’ve been using a three file rotation for a while now and been tinkering with the idea of going to two.  But I’d like to see if it really does help before I give up on the extra input of that third.  My girl listens to these almost all day every day – so in my case it may not be as important.  But I am interested.

 

Best of luck

MSS

MSS- I only play files at night while we are sleeping and don’t get the reputations like some of the others do, so I decided to drop the number of files to only two……I’m two weeks in on just playing two (brand new) files, and I haven’t seen any results as of yet. I’m not distressed about it though as these are totally different than anything I’ve played in the past and on top of it, this has been a barren wasteland in our marriage for the last year. These files in fact may take longer than 30 days to see any results, but in my situation, to me this could be the ultimate test to see how powerful these files really are. I’m looking forward to see what type of results these files bring.

[FaustsBoon]

07/29/2013 at 4:32 pm

@limited1 said:

@MasterSouthernStar said:
Limited;
 
               I’ll be interested to know whether you feel that there is – or is not an advantage to the 2 files rotation over the three – after you’ve had it going for a while.  I’ve been using a three file rotation for a while now and been tinkering with the idea of going to two.  But I’d like to see if it really does help before I give up on the extra input of that third.  My girl listens to these almost all day every day – so in my case it may not be as important.  But I am interested.
 
Best of luck
MSS

MSS- I only play files at night while we are sleeping and don’t get the reputations like some of the others do, so I decided to drop the number of files to only two……I’m two weeks in on just playing two (brand new) files, and I haven’t seen any results as of yet. I’m not distressed about it though as these are totally different than anything I’ve played in the past and on top of it, this has been a barren wasteland in our marriage for the last year. These files in fact may take longer than 30 days to see any results, but in my situation, to me this could be the ultimate test to see how powerful these files really are. I’m looking forward to see what type of results these files bring.

Have you talked about those two files anywhere on these boards?  What are your objectives with those particular scripts?

I know that something I tried to do in my “ultimate” custom was to include things that fit short/medium/long term goals, or were things I thought might be easy/moderate/hard for my wife…  Essentially building in difficulty levels of things I might expect to see showing up in order.  I figured that was smarter than having the full script themed around dramatic changes, as I could at least then SEE progress happening.  

If you read my journal, for example, the “feeling more safe/comfortable during sex with my husband” types of affirmations seem to maybe, MAYBE, be starting to work, but those are also the ones I would expect to see first…  If my wife suddenly starts initiating oral sex, I can assume the more complex messages are taking hold.  This way I only really need ONE track, and can be confident repetitions are happening as often as possible.

[limited1]

07/29/2013 at 9:24 pm

@FaustsBoon said:

@limited1 said:

@MasterSouthernStar said:
Limited;
 
               I’ll be interested to know whether you feel that there is – or is not an advantage to the 2 files rotation over the three – after you’ve had it going for a while.  I’ve been using a three file rotation for a while now and been tinkering with the idea of going to two.  But I’d like to see if it really does help before I give up on the extra input of that third.  My girl listens to these almost all day every day – so in my case it may not be as important.  But I am interested.
 
Best of luck
MSS

MSS- I only play files at night while we are sleeping and don’t get the reputations like some of the others do, so I decided to drop the number of files to only two……I’m two weeks in on just playing two (brand new) files, and I haven’t seen any results as of yet. I’m not distressed about it though as these are totally different than anything I’ve played in the past and on top of it, this has been a barren wasteland in our marriage for the last year. These files in fact may take longer than 30 days to see any results, but in my situation, to me this could be the ultimate test to see how powerful these files really are. I’m looking forward to see what type of results these files bring.

 

Have you talked about those two files anywhere on these boards?  What are your objectives with those particular scripts?

 

I know that something I tried to do in my “ultimate” custom was to include things that fit short/medium/long term goals, or were things I thought might be easy/moderate/hard for my wife…  Essentially building in difficulty levels of things I might expect to see showing up in order.  I figured that was smarter than having the full script themed around dramatic changes, as I could at least then SEE progress happening.  

 

If you read my journal, for example, the “feeling more safe/comfortable during sex with my husband” types of affirmations seem to maybe, MAYBE, be starting to work, but those are also the ones I would expect to see first…  If my wife suddenly starts initiating oral sex, I can assume the more complex messages are taking hold.  This way I only really need ONE track, and can be confident repetitions are happening as often as possible.

FB- The scripts that I’m playing now are the following ( I mentioned them in my post above on 7/15):

1.) I love sex- husband : sledge that Trainer created

2.) Custom sex file : I based on Tap1’s custom file / language (sex part only), with some modifications.

My goal is to get our sex life going again…..since we started to have some issues in our marriage, that was one of the first things to change (with her behavior) or should I say that she basically eliminated and was not interested in any longer. The other files that I have used up to this point have been about rebuilding / improving our relationship with the exception of sex. I feel that this is the next step, and a good way to test the effectiveness of these scripts. Time will tell……

[MasterSouthernStar]

07/29/2013 at 10:12 pm

Limited;

              Given our differing situations I may not be able to be of much assistance, but just in case.

              Today I changed my girl’s recording to a two file rotation.  For the record they are Slave Identity and Master’s Opinion.  As you can see I have drastically different goals than do you, but I will try to let you know over the next little bit the essential difference between two and three file rotations.  Hopefully it will perceptible by me!  My girl was on her last rotation for almost four months – and I thought it was beginning to yield diminishing returns.  SO a change was in order.  Hopefully I will see some change.  I will let you know if I think it can be attributed to the fewer file rotation.

               Keep plugging away man!  You’ll get there.  We’re all right here with you.

MSS

[Tap]

07/30/2013 at 1:47 am

Limited, I think with time your sex files will work. I posted my thoughts on sex in marriage in a thread in the gold forum and what could possibly improve it.

https://dreamgirlsgt.com/forum/gold-general-discussions-1/my-theory-on-improving-sex-in-marriage/#p1651

[limited1]

07/30/2013 at 2:48 pm

@MasterSouthernStar said:
Limited;

 

              Given our differing situations I may not be able to be of much assistance, but just in case.

 

              Today I changed my girl’s recording to a two file rotation.  For the record they are Slave Identity and Master’s Opinion.  As you can see I have drastically different goals than do you, but I will try to let you know over the next little bit the essential difference between two and three file rotations.  Hopefully it will perceptible by me!  My girl was on her last rotation for almost four months – and I thought it was beginning to yield diminishing returns.  SO a change was in order.  Hopefully I will see some change.  I will let you know if I think it can be attributed to the fewer file rotation.

 

               Keep plugging away man!  You’ll get there.  We’re all right here with you.

 

MSS

MSS:

I appreciate the feedback even if our goals our different. This is a learning process for most of us and I appreciate the time that some devote (Tap,Qwerty, FB, etc) to sharing what they are doing (especially sharing of their custom scripts), what works, what doesn’t work, the signs to look for ,etc. I’ll definitely let you and everyone else know how these files are working. Thanks for the support!

[limited1]

07/30/2013 at 3:13 pm

@Tap1 said:
Limited, I think with time your sex files will work. I posted my thoughts on sex in marriage in a thread in the gold forum and what could possibly improve it.

https://dreamgirlsgt.com/forum/gold-general-discussions-1/my-theory-on-improving-sex-in-marriage/#p1651

Tap1:

You posted some great thoughts in that blog that really ring true with what I’m going thru and the attiitudes and behavior that I’m seeing (It’s not my duty as a wife, I don’t need sex). I really think that much of this boils down to control in the marriage / relationship and they use sex as the mechanism for control ( carrot/stick perhaps ) instead of just enjoying sex as I do, as a means to be even closer to my wife, and as an affirmation of our marriage.

I’m trying to modify that thought process by using these scripts….I tried to incorporate some of those things in the custom script that I’m playing right now (your verbiage was the base…..Thank you again) to include positive affirmations about  sex, marriage duty, some God statements, and statements about control, etc. I tried not to include too much as I need to crawl, before I walk with this and eventually get to the fast walking /running like Qwerty and yourself.

I appreciate your thoughts that you put forth into these forums as usually you get me to think critically, and look at my situation a little more closely.

[Tap]

07/31/2013 at 2:26 am

Sure, anything that I can do to help. I think if you attack the issue from all angles like that, she will eventually give in when it comes to sex.

[limited1]

08/27/2013 at 4:19 pm

An update for all. Sorry I haven’t been more current with the updates, but I have been traveling quite a bit for work the last three weeks.

On my 7/15 post as you know, I started the following new scripts:

1.) I Love Sex-Husband version – Trainer’s sledge

2.) Custom script 2/3rd’s based on Tap 1’s file with 1/3 my own custom statements  

The result:

We had a severe arguement about two weeks into the new scripts that I was too controlling, everything is my way or the highway, and she was done with our marriage. I have to admit, I was shocked by her outburst. Overall, I’m a pretty relaxed type of person at home. I was a little more assertive, providing more direction,etc., than I have been in the past, but nothing to warrant her behavior. We had a discussion / arguement and two or three days later everything went back to normal and has been OK ever since. Besides the outburst/arguement, the behaviors are about the same as before I began this new set on 7/15….. However, NO sex, NO affection, NOTHING sexual at all, has resulted from the set heavily focused on sex 75% and the other 25% focused on her being submissive, I’m the leader, the boss, etc .

I wonder if her outburst though was a reaction to the scripts somewhat as there are strong statements in there that I haven’t had in the past ? Statements like :

I’m always submissive to H, H is the boss

H is the master, I’m the servant

H is the leader, I follow H

H has all the control in our marriage , etc

I’m going to continue to stay the course for the most part, but modify it somewhat…….Starting tonight I’m am executing the following files:

1.) I Love Sex-Husband version – Trainer’s sledge

2.) Custom script 2/3rd’s based on Tap 1’s file with 1/3 my own custom statements  — I modified the language to make it more graphic

3.) Custom script based on Qwerty’s sex file 

That’s it for now….

[FaustsBoon]

08/27/2013 at 5:43 pm

@limited1 said:
An update for all. Sorry I haven’t been more current with the updates, but I have been traveling quite a bit for work the last three weeks.

On my 7/15 post as you know, I started the following new scripts:

1.) I Love Sex-Husband version – Trainer’s sledge

2.) Custom script 2/3rd’s based on Tap 1’s file with 1/3 my own custom statements  

 

The result:

We had a severe arguement about two weeks into the new scripts that I was too controlling, everything is my way or the highway, and she was done with our marriage. I have to admit, I was shocked by her outburst. Overall, I’m a pretty relaxed type of person at home. I was a little more assertive, providing more direction,etc., than I have been in the past, but nothing to warrant her behavior. We had a discussion / arguement and two or three days later everything went back to normal and has been OK ever since. Besides the outburst/arguement, the behaviors are about the same as before I began this new set on 7/15….. However, NO sex, NO affection, NOTHING sexual at all, has resulted from the set heavily focused on sex 75% and the other 25% focused on her being submissive, I’m the leader, the boss, etc .

I wonder if her outburst though was a reaction to the scripts somewhat as there are strong statements in there that I haven’t had in the past ? Statements like :

I’m always submissive to H, H is the boss

H is the master, I’m the servant

H is the leader, I follow H

H has all the control in our marriage , etc

 

I’m going to continue to stay the course for the most part, but modify it somewhat…….Starting tonight I’m am executing the following files:

1.) I Love Sex-Husband version – Trainer’s sledge

2.) Custom script 2/3rd’s based on Tap 1’s file with 1/3 my own custom statements  — I modified the language to make it more graphic

3.) Custom script based on Qwerty’s sex file 

 

That’s it for now….

 

Careful with diminishing returns, man.  I know Tap tends to prefer long scripts with many affirmations.  Qwerty’s sex file is fairly long as well.  Between those AND “I love sex”, you might be playing too much.

For what it is worth, since your marriage has sorts of tensions at the foundation that most of us do not, maybe consider blitzing hard with ONE theme versus two.  Either make it all about sex, or all about submission/happiness, and then build the other on a foundation you really nail down first of the other.

Good luck.  As always, you’re in all our thoughts!

[Qwerty]

08/27/2013 at 5:45 pm

Interesting limited,
We never can tell exactly how the brain will interpret the messages. I know I have had two responses I was not expecting (the heavy use of the word slut made my wife drink more and the denial that her coming to bed naked was anything more than a rare treat). Here it sounds like your wife is trying to reconcile her new thoughts with reality and has come to a conclusion that you must be doing something that is causing her to have these thoughts.
If I was a betting man it sounds like she just put up her last big resistance to these new thoughts and she may start showing little signs that she has started to accept them. Keep up the good work.

[limited1]

08/27/2013 at 8:51 pm

@FaustsBoon said:

@limited1 said:
An update for all. Sorry I haven’t been more current with the updates, but I have been traveling quite a bit for work the last three weeks.

On my 7/15 post as you know, I started the following new scripts:

1.) I Love Sex-Husband version – Trainer’s sledge

2.) Custom script 2/3rd’s based on Tap 1’s file with 1/3 my own custom statements  

 

The result:

We had a severe arguement about two weeks into the new scripts that I was too controlling, everything is my way or the highway, and she was done with our marriage. I have to admit, I was shocked by her outburst. Overall, I’m a pretty relaxed type of person at home. I was a little more assertive, providing more direction,etc., than I have been in the past, but nothing to warrant her behavior. We had a discussion / arguement and two or three days later everything went back to normal and has been OK ever since. Besides the outburst/arguement, the behaviors are about the same as before I began this new set on 7/15….. However, NO sex, NO affection, NOTHING sexual at all, has resulted from the set heavily focused on sex 75% and the other 25% focused on her being submissive, I’m the leader, the boss, etc .

I wonder if her outburst though was a reaction to the scripts somewhat as there are strong statements in there that I haven’t had in the past ? Statements like :

I’m always submissive to H, H is the boss

H is the master, I’m the servant

H is the leader, I follow H

H has all the control in our marriage , etc

 

I’m going to continue to stay the course for the most part, but modify it somewhat…….Starting tonight I’m am executing the following files:

1.) I Love Sex-Husband version – Trainer’s sledge

2.) Custom script 2/3rd’s based on Tap 1’s file with 1/3 my own custom statements  — I modified the language to make it more graphic

3.) Custom script based on Qwerty’s sex file 

 

That’s it for now….

 

Careful with diminishing returns, man.  I know Tap tends to prefer long scripts with many affirmations.  Qwerty’s sex file is fairly long as well.  Between those AND “I love sex”, you might be playing too much.

 

For what it is worth, since your marriage has sorts of tensions at the foundation that most of us do not, maybe consider blitzing hard with ONE theme versus two.  Either make it all about sex, or all about submission/happiness, and then build the other on a foundation you really nail down first of the other.

 

Good luck.  As always, you’re in all our thoughts!

I appreciate the words. My journal is getting fairly long now, but if you review earlier entries, my focus was submissivness, and happiness to build a new base to work off of. Ifelt after doing that for a few months and that I built that foundation, to shift and to mainly focus on Sex (started 7/15). All three files combined I started are 25 minutes, so I’m getting about 6 reps of each file/night. I’m going to start there and see how it goes. If I don’t see any progress, I will toss one of them out of the rotation. 

[limited1]

08/27/2013 at 8:58 pm

@Qwerty said:
If I was a betting man it sounds like she just put up her last big resistance to these new thoughts and she may start showing little signs that she has started to accept them. Keep up the good work.

Qwerty,

That is what i’m hoping for and that’s why I wasn’t to upset about our arguement/fight. I gave a little, she gave a little, and all was good in a few days afterwards. I’m really curious to see how she reacts to your orignal sex/arousal file that you posted in Gold section. I think the phrasing and wording is golden.

[Tap]

08/27/2013 at 9:06 pm

With the heavy emphasis on sex, I think it’s only a matter of time before she gives in.

[MasterSouthernStar]

08/31/2013 at 6:41 pm

Limited;

          I side with Qwerty and I think that the big blow was the “flame out” of any true difference of opinion.  Any behavioral non conformance at this point is leftover societal programming.  Unfortunately we all know how strong the influence of “society” can be.  My bet is she’s been like that because it’s what she thought society would respect her for, but has probably never been happy inside about it.  The “flame out” is her inner self’s last gasp of support for the “status quo”.  I suspect at this point she has conflict between her conscious and unconscious self.  This could be the most worrisome time in the process.  I’d be working hard to support the correct ideas.  Sounds like it may be a long trail for you, but don’t give up man.  We’re all here with you.  Best of luck.

MSS