silent files

[pizzaman69]

08/11/2014 at 11:14 am

why is it that if I don’t turn down the volume of the file when I make a silent, that I can still here it faintly and garbled with a lot of static in the final “silent” file?

If I leave the volume high, and in Audacity resample the tracks and do the nyquist prompt effect I can still hear the message in the final silent file although it is very low volume and sounds staticky like a lot of buzzing in the message distorts it some.

is there a louder and clearer message being received by the ear at higher frequency??? or is that garbled low volume message the “silent” file?

[Fizbin]

08/11/2014 at 12:04 pm

The psycho-acoustics of ultrasonic encoding are not well understood, but are believed to be based on micro-resonance of silica fibers in the inner ear (as opposed to conventional hearing which relies on the larger scale motion of multiple fibers).

Some people (especially younger ones who haven’t damaged their hearing with excessive loud music playback) can hear conventionally well into the range that the default encoding process targets. The sound could be compared to the “mosquito” ringtones that some use. In addition, certain playback technologies can partially decode the sounds so that they are truly audible, if not fully intelligible. (I’ve seen this effect with certain Bose noise cancelling headphones.)

[pizzaman69]

08/12/2014 at 1:04 am

ok but I hear the message garbled and staticky and like a buzzing sound…. if it is ultrasonic, why do I hear anything?

is there a clear, non-buzzing, non-static sounding message that she is “hearing” or receiving in to her ear at higher frequency or is the ultrasonic also garbled?

[Fizbin]

08/12/2014 at 12:42 pm

Here is a summary of the physics behind our process, and why some people may hear things from the nominally “silent” files.

“Ultrasonic” is relative to the listener, really. The idealized human auditory range is 20-20,000 Hertz. In reality, most folks’ sensitivity drops off significantly above about 10k.

Consider that a PERFECT non-HD AM radio signal is clipped at about 5k, and conventional telephone stops at 3500 hz. Most consumer (not Audiophile) audio equipment has a top frequency response somewhere in the mid to high teens. Above that point, the signal degradation is (at best) non linear.

Without getting too technical, the process of shifting a core signal to a higher frequency for processing and transmission is called “heterodyning” (as in super heterodyne receiver). This process creates a signal with a core frequency, and two “sidebands” around it. (Yes, these are the same “upper” and “lower” sidebands you may have encountered on CB Radio equipment). For our purposes, think of these as positive and negative versions of the signal. Technically, you only need one of these in order to decode/reproduce the original signal, but having both makes decoding easier.

This is the landscape into which we are creating files. They need to be above the range of the typical (not ideal) human, yet within a range reproducible by typical audio equipment.

Our Nyquist formula clips the highest frequencies off of our input file, and then heterodynes it to a core of around 14.5k, with sidebands extending down to about 10k, and up to just under 20k. If we use the telephone as our baseline, spoken voice is primarily in the range of 3.5k or less, so our “required” response is only 11k to 18 kHz – well within the range of most audio equipment.

However, this also means that these signals are potentially within the range of humans with really good hearing. Fortunately, a heterodyne signal is not simply the pure audio at a higher pitch. There is an analog “encoding”, and so what is there usually sounds garbled to conventional hearing. In addition, the playback equipment’s falloff could be adding its own distortion to the upper sideband. (How this signal is decoded in the body is the question, though the leading theory is that the silica fibers in the inner ear, rather than being moved en masse by a low frequency sound, actually resonate individually to the heterodyned signal, and send the decoded sound to the brain via a different channel.)

Finally, noise reduction processing, by reintroducing the same waveform at a different phase, has the potential to partially or even fully de-heterodyne the signal, resulting in the actual source being audible. DO NOT have your girl listen to these files through a noise cancelling headset!

[pizzaman69]

08/12/2014 at 3:28 pm

thank you so very much for taking the time and effort to give such a good reply.

I use the formula provided in the ebooks for how to make silent except that I do not reduce the volume so low as prescribed in the ebook….

“1. Start Audacity and drag the Audio file with the voice recording onto the grey track or you can
go to File menu and click open.
2. Now go to Edit menu and click on “Select” and “All”. This will select the whole Audio track
for convection.
3. I ignore and do not do the reduce volume one.
4. In the lower left corner of the main Audacity window check to see if the project rate box is set
at: 44100
5. You will need to resample the audio, go to Tracks menu then select Resample and type in
192000
6. Go to the effects menu then select Nyquist Prompt and then put in the following code:
(highpass8
(lowpass8
(mult
(lowpass8 (highpass8 s 300) 7000)
(hzosc 45000)
(hzosc 59500))
24000)
15000)

Okay congratulations you’ve just created your first subliminal program in New Age silent mode.

my question is…. is this just the simplest way to get started as a beginner? but perhaps there are other settings I should consider using when making a silent file? a different project rate? a different resample? a different Nyquist prompt command?

[trainer81]

08/12/2014 at 10:06 pm

Whatever you like if want to test new methods But this is what Dream Girls uses to record all those subliminal programs for the Members Area.

My advice is to start out with what’s in the eBooks and maybe later you can advance testing your own methods.

The Nyquist prompt command this is what encodes the subliminal messages at the subconscious level. This command can be changed but it would need testing.

Hope this helps,

Trainer81

[J66R]

08/12/2014 at 11:03 pm

I’ll just add my $0.02.

In the very beginning I played the customs at the e-book recommended settings. There was no observable effect. I don’t know, maybe I was expecting too much too soon but I didn’t notice anything. But, when I ignored the volume lowering setting, the effects (nicer to me and to children and getting breakfast cooked for me) became discernible within weeks, with the BIG change, (read cum-in-mouth) happening at near 2 months. Since then ALL my customs have been sans the volume lowering step. I will say I am careful about setting volume on playback, to insure there is no “chirping” heard.

[Tap]

08/13/2014 at 2:30 am

Pizzaman, the difference I do from trainer’s instructions is change the amp into 2 versions for each custom. I make one at -17 amp and one at -23 amp. I use the -17 version for some of my mp3 players that don’t have good volume output and I use the -23 version for my good sound output ones.

Squeaking can be heard if putting your ear close to the sound at the highest volume level. I like hearing that squeaking sound because I know it’s playing correctly. I’ve had much success with my methods so I just stick with what works.

[Qwerty]

08/13/2014 at 5:34 pm

Pizzaman,
I would recommend that you start off with trainer’s technique and observe how it affects your wife before you try playing around with different frequency. I have played around with different frequency probably be more than most here (everything from 10 hz to 17000 hz) with differing effectiveness and effects but without a baseline to work from that has reason able success you will not have a baseline to determine if your changes are for the good or worse.

[pizzaman69]

08/13/2014 at 8:52 pm

Thanks everyone for your comments and advice.

I make my silent files exactly like the ebook tutorial except I don’t adjust the volume down.

I also have a player with weak speakers and also a player with good speakers.

I can adjust the volume down on the players with good speakers and still use the sucky players too.

[pizzaman69]

08/20/2014 at 3:35 pm

if I am using textaloud Anna voice, then I should make new converter using Anna voice with Textaloud using the Amy converter script with Textaloud software?

whatever converter file I use needs to have the voice I use in the messages (= Textaloud Anna) right?

[gtbear]

08/20/2014 at 9:57 pm

@pizzaman69 said:

if I am using textaloud Anna voice, then I should make new converter using Anna voice with Textaloud using the Amy converter script with Textaloud software?

whatever converter file I use needs to have the voice I use in the messages (= Textaloud Anna) right?

You can buy and, I am told, even get free additional voices to use with text aloud. Anna is just one voice out of many that are available.

You can use one voice or many voices at one time… like the sledgehammers. I picked one that seemed good to me and have started carefully recording trainer scripts to put them in that voice… also, I have continued from time to time playing his silent scripts streight up… no changes. All different ways have had nice successes. At the moment, everything that I am playing is ‘Amy’ bought from the text aloud bunch. The premis is that making the voice the same will breed familiarity and so ease acceptance of the messages. I am not sure that it really matters though.

[Tap]

08/21/2014 at 1:59 am

Anna’s voice is kind of deep. She also doesn’t pronounce some words smoothly and her speech is choppy. That’s the free voice so you get what you pay for.

I’d recommend making her voice lighter by increasing the pitch. I don’t think a converter is needed really. I never used one. If you have the money, I’d recommend buying Cepstral Amy’s voice. It’s about $30. You might think it’s expensive, but it’s an investment because you will most likely use subliminals for a long time, after seeing how they work. Plus, you will always have new ideas for affirmations and will probably be making new ones every so often.

[Fizbin]

08/23/2014 at 10:38 am

I generally use Zira, and kick the pitch up. Zira comes with newer versions of windows, and is much smoother than Anna.

[trainer81]

08/24/2014 at 11:56 am

Cool, Zira comes with Windows 8 right? I never had a windows 8 yet I’m still on Windows 7

[Fizbin]

08/25/2014 at 11:34 am

@Trainer81 said:

Cool, Zira comes with Windows 8 right? I never had a windows 8 yet I’m still on Windows 7

I thought she was on 7 as well, but I don’t have a copy handy to verify.

[tonguester4_69]

08/25/2014 at 6:14 pm

I use windows 7 professional and it does not have it.