New Life for Wife

[Islander711]

07/15/2012 at 7:08 am

I am going to start training my wife on the 20th, she’s out of town now. I plan on posting the progress as it happens so you can see what I’m doing and what is happening, and would like feed back in case I’m screwing up.

I have downloaded the Amy Converter Silent to start her off and will introduce her to Rain after about 2 weeks.

I plan on using slave training on her. I think Respectful Compliance Silent will be after she has accepted Rain Converter.

Any comments or suggestions will be appriceated.

[sdalie]

07/15/2012 at 1:07 pm

My thoughts/experience is that some have more resistance then others. So be patient. It can take longer then you think – However, I hope you have fast success. Mine took a long time to react to the various files. I usually use the files for 2-3 weeks at a time then give her a week off. Hope this helps.

[Islander711]

07/15/2012 at 10:46 pm

Ok, 2-3 weeks then a week off. What is the week off for?

[Fizbin]

07/16/2012 at 12:38 am

Another thing to consider, don’t go for a complete 180 in a single go, or introduce concepts that are very different from her current perceptions.

For example, consider doing something like “Love, Honor, and Obey” and/or “Submissive Thoughts, Wife” as the first series after Amy. LHO really just reinforces and internalizes the vows she already agreed to (whether in earnest, or just for show). STW, on the other hand, provides a kind of “transition” element from whatever her current attitude is, into the direction you would like it to take.

As for the gap weeks, there have been a lot of discussions lately finding that after a few weeks of listening, having a week or so off for things to assimilate tends to make it more effective. This gives her time to have the new thoughts “naturally” spring to mind in response to day to day situations, without other, potentially conflicting training thoughts rolling over them.

[Islander711]

07/17/2012 at 3:23 pm

I have set up the devices to play Amy Converter Silent and I am assuming that if I can hear a faint chirping sound coming out that it is working. What is the recommended volume level for effective play? Is it however loud that a regular song would be played? Do I need to put on a continuous loop?

I am liking STW so I will probably do that one next. She is a bit of a control freak so I’m thinking that will tone her down a bit.

The week for assimilating makes since so I will do that.

Do I need to do a week between Converter and STW and are there any signs that she is paying attention to Converter?

[darkerlife]

07/17/2012 at 11:46 pm

The only sighn you might get is her liking the amy converter rain file. If she takes to it no prob then you know its working. My wife doesn’t like the rain sounds, says they are just white noise to her but she will ignore pops squeekes and blips from the silent files.

[sdalie]

07/18/2012 at 12:28 pm

My experience on volume is this.
If you can hear it and it is a silent version back it down a tiny bit as my wife was getting headaches which went away when I turned it down.
I have been getting good success with digital picture frames and some old ipods that appear to be charging but are actually playing
The volume question is and has been an open question in my mind from the begining.
Now since I create my own it gets tougher as the eBooks do not address it either.
My best atempt for setting volume is to check the levels while voices are audible before pitching them up this is done as part of a test I do. Anyway, maybe trainer81 can help here?

[Islander711]

07/20/2012 at 5:13 am

OK, the wife is home and is going to bed early. I have Amy Converter Silent ready to go. No time like the present to begin

[Islander711]

07/20/2012 at 8:47 am

I wouldn’t mind letting my wife listen to Amy Converter all night, but I have a question, what happens to me, while I’m in there because I will be listening too?

[darkerlife]

07/20/2012 at 10:26 am

You can ingnore it. You know those messages arnt for you. When you get up in the morning, just remind you yourself that those messages arnt for you and you’ll start putting up a mental block towards them. The scripts are genered one way as in “My husband” “My master” so its pretty strait forward who the messages are for.

[Islander711]

07/21/2012 at 1:42 am

OK, thanks for the input.

[Islander711]

07/22/2012 at 8:45 am

OK, had it on all last night for her, I don’t sleep as much so I only was in 3-4 hrs. She just went to bed so I have my smart phone ‘charging in there beside her. Tomorrow she will be home so I will have the computer playing while she watches TV, it has a strong speaker system so she will have it on so I’m hoping it comes in with all the TV she likes to watch.

[Islander711]

07/24/2012 at 10:43 am

Well, I goofed on the computer, I forgot to set the power settings so it shut down after a 15 minutes. I have that adjusted now so I’ll be able to get it going next time the oppertunaty presents it’s self. I still have 9 more days of converter before I start the next script so I still have my fingers crossed for when I expect to see evidence.

I’m planning on LHO as the next step because she is seeming a bit argumenitive lately. I’m wondering if that is because of Converter? Not really sure because she was on the mainland for almost 2 months and I could have forgotten just how argumenitive she was before her trip.

Going to review the e-books some more to keep my plan at the optimal result. Thanks for all the feedback throughout the forums.

[darkerlife]

07/24/2012 at 1:39 pm

Starting out sublims can cause aggitation. This can last about a week or so until said person gets used to them.

[Islander711]

07/25/2012 at 8:06 am

Thanks for the heads up. I reread the Converter script and I could only think of encouraging her, so I’m hoping that helps.

[Islander711]

07/26/2012 at 10:12 am

The encouragement seemed to work and she is doing fine. I had my computer feeding her converter and managed to keep her in watching TV and listening to my computer. She was ready to go to bed but i was able to keep her listening to Converter and she was happier than she has been since she has returned home. Now she’s merrily sleeping next to my smart phone while she listens to Converter.

I have read some of the other posts and I’m going to combine Converter and LHO tomorrow as she will be home tomorrow and see how she reacts to that.

Thanks for all the great ideals. I’ll try to post tomorrows to let ya’ll know what happened.

[sdalie]

07/29/2012 at 11:10 am

Just wondering how is it going?
From reading your posts it sounds like she has been asked to do this training?

[Islander711]

07/29/2012 at 12:53 pm

No, she has not asked to do this training. She seems to have accepted converter so I am composing a compilaition for her to listen to. She hasn’t been as argumenitive so I’m going to do some attitude adjustment to get her back to what she presented herself to be when we were dating. When I have decided what to make I’m going to post the list for some feedback.

Thanks for the help and interest.

[Islander711]

07/29/2012 at 9:58 pm

OK, I am making up the new playlist for her to start on tonight. I am going to use Sledgehammer’s Love Honor and Obey, Slave’s God Approves of Slavery and Cock Sucker and Wife’s Cock Sucker. I am planning on taking her into being a slave. She gave me indications of wanting to do that.

I am using LHO and GAS to start getting her mindset correct and both Cock Suckers for her to start equating Husband and Master as the same person and have a bit of fun also. I don’t think that I am overloading her but I would like your feedback. The forms have been invaluable.

Thanks

[sdalie]

07/30/2012 at 1:27 am

LHO is a great file if you are married in my opinion as this I believe hits the wife’s CORE right down to the wedding vows. Trainer really hit a home run on this file for all of us.
With this I think the wives follow the next feed / file / sub input we provide (My opinion) as a kinda short circuit to the central sub system

Anyway, that said I have had great success feeding in a file in addition to the LHO and it takes really well.

I am a firm believer to keep layering in the amy converter about once a week to keep them tracking to that file as well. If you have the custom creation program it is easy to add Amy then the LHO as an intro to your every file

This is working very well for me anyway.

Hope this helps!

[Islander711]

07/30/2012 at 10:18 am

That sounds like a good ideal. I’ll do that on Sunday nights because she seems to like to get to bed early to rest up for her next week of work.

Right now she is merrily sleeping and listening to my 4 file compalation. I have to work on being more in charge myself. I need to form some habits in order to reinforce the habits I want her to have.

Thanks for the help.

[Islander711]

07/31/2012 at 7:09 pm

Well, something interesting happened today. She didn’t turn on the TV to listen to news this morning, instead she stayed close to where the files were playing. She has not watched the morning news ocassionally before so I have to see if she keeps this up but I’ll take this as a good sign. She really seems like she is a bit more agreeable so I will continue with this routine.

We are continuing our walks and I always have my phone with me because she feels more secure if I carry it so she now gets to listen to the files for an extra 25 minutes now of uninterupted listening time

I do hope these trends continue.

[Islander711]

08/02/2012 at 7:46 am

Hmmmm. She didn’t watch TV again this morning and likes to sit by my phone while it’s playing my complation. I’m still having trouble playing the files on my computer so I must be doing something wrong.

I really want to get the power of my main speakers working. She has been more acceptable to watch movies with me but she does have her favorite shows that I don’t really care for so I would like to keep her training up while she is in a happier mode. With my computer beside the TV, my speakers will have no problem being heard with the TV.

[Fizbin]

08/02/2012 at 1:48 pm

Just a reminder – don’t overdo it! A few reps from your phone each day is probably plenty. You don’t need to do the whole immersion thing. You are actually seeing results. Your encouragement and guidance on her actual behaviors is all that is required from there.

[Islander711]

08/02/2012 at 5:55 pm

So the overnight playing should be enough? That would make it so much simpler Maybe I could do a different one when we are TV watching. I’ll have to check into this.

[Islander711]

08/05/2012 at 12:55 am

She is acting a bit better to me but it could be that she is getting into her work routine after comming back from vacation. I am having her listen to Love Honor and Obey when we watch TV. and she has my 4 compalaition to listen to while she sleeps.

I have gotten a CD player and will be making a Rain CD to see how she likes listening to it. I’ll call it a relaxation CD so she will think that it will keep the stress down. I want to see how she responds to that so I can judge what to do next.

[Islander711]

08/07/2012 at 7:52 am

I am waiting for her to go down on me but it hasn’t happened yet, a bit of a bummer there. She has been easier to get along with lately but still rebels a bit. I think next week I’m going to give her a week off then set up another compilation for her to listen to.

Not as many post on this forum sence the Gold membership started. that’s a bit of a bummer as I do like to read the various postings for insite and ideals.

[Fizbin]

08/08/2012 at 4:09 am

I have to ask – has she actually done that before? If not, the actual messages contained in the CS files might not resonate for her. You might need to actually ask for it some time rather than waiting for it to be spontaneous.

[Islander711]

08/08/2012 at 9:18 am

She has done it before without me asking, not very much so if it were to happen, it would be iceing. I have notice that she has been open to a bit more flirting than she has been so I’m thinking my next complation will have her do something a bit less ambichous.

Sunday night I’m going to put her onto converter for a night then give her a week off and start a different set for her the next week.
I am happy with the results so far and it’s only been a month.

[Fizbin]

08/08/2012 at 10:19 am

I highly recommend Submissive Thoughts – Wife.

While it isn’t as “intense” as LHO (which sounds to me like the “There is no Sanctuary” scene from Logan’s Run), it covers some of the same territory more concretely, with more behavioral suggestions.

It also includes a direct assertion of what you were trying to imply by using the two CS files simultaneously.

(Note: I’m trying not to quote any of the actual scripts in the open forum…)

[Islander711]

08/13/2012 at 8:35 pm

Thanks for the suggestion Fizbin. I will have to put that in.

I played Converter for her last night and am going to give her a week off till this sunday night. She has gotten a lot more complyant to me and less argumentive. I am pleased with the results so far. Tonight I will be going through the scripts and will set up a complation for her listening enjoyment.

I have found my CD player and it’s elusive powercord so I’m going to burn some CD to play on that. The speakers are better than my phone so I’m thinking I can get even better results than just leaving the phone’s rather limited volume playing.

I am hopeing to upgrade to gold next month because I can see how customising would accellorate the process. Damn budget.

Thanks for all the feedback

[Fizbin]

08/14/2012 at 3:59 pm

I’m not so sure about using the CD player, unless you’re either doing customs over music, or pushing her to listen to the Rain as a “relaxing” white noise. It is almost impossible to have the CD playing without her noticing it.

[Islander711]

08/14/2012 at 7:46 pm

I do plan on trying Rain to see if she likes it as a yardstick to see how receptive she is. I also plan on making some customs over music when I have some cash to upgrade to gold. She would listen to any Karen Carpenter song I would play over and over while she is driving around so it would be more time on the clock for her.

As for her noticing the CD player, I would have to check it out. If I can get it so that I wouldn’t notice it then I’m sure she wouldn’t, she just isn’t very observent of her suroundings.

[Islander711]

08/19/2012 at 10:39 am

OK, her week off is over tomorrow night. The start of her week off was good but the last 2 days she got a bit argumentative so I have a direction to take her for the next month. I am going to continue her on Love Honor and Obey but drop the other 3 from the compilation. I believe she needs Wife’s Identity, Her Submissive Nature, and My Marriage.

I believe that these will tackle the core problem of her wanting to ALWAYS be right and be the center of attention no matter what is happening.

[Fizbin]

08/19/2012 at 11:30 am

That should be a good mix.

[Islander711]

08/22/2012 at 7:54 am

It turned out to be a good mix, she actually volenteered for sex tonight and it was relitivly easy for her to get wet. Good progress.

[Fizbin]

08/22/2012 at 4:30 pm

I know where that came from (no pun intended). Have you noticed any other effects yet?

[Islander711]

08/22/2012 at 11:16 pm

Not really, it seems like she is rebelling a bit, but I was in a bit of pain this past 2 days so I wasn’t as observant as usual.

[trainer81]

08/22/2012 at 11:40 pm

All of Dream Girls subliminal messages, I write them so they respond to the female mind

Just say this isn’t for me, it’s for her….

[Islander711]

08/23/2012 at 3:58 am

I think you did a damn fine job.

My kidney problem has subsided a bit so I don’t hurt as much and the roommate we had just moved out so I will be setting the comp to play all the time. This is good because I’m spending more time on floor at work trying to get some contracts so I won’t be at home as much.

[Fizbin]

08/23/2012 at 4:51 am

I hate kidney stones.

Anyway, good luck with everything now that the internal distraction is gone!

[Islander711]

08/24/2012 at 10:45 am

She has been more open to sex but has been more irritable so I’m seeing definite progress, even if it’s a bit mixed.

Fizbin, I do like your avatar and sig, very approprite.

[Fizbin]

08/24/2012 at 2:09 pm

Thanks!

Has your wife been more irritable overall? Or just in certain areas? Just a thought – try swapping the LHO and HSN in your playlist with STW for a few days. Covers some of the same areas, but more gently and concretely.

[Islander711]

08/26/2012 at 8:31 pm

Right now I’m giving her some space, she just started back at work and the parents are a pain again so I think after the starting school year dust settels, she should too.

I’ve got my comp pumping out my complation by the TV and am spending a bit of time at work. She still has a tendancy to not do anything that I ask, although, she did accept my critizm of her dishwashing without saying a word.

I still need to get to her core belief that she always has to be right no matter how wrong her stance is. As this is long held, it will take a bit of work.

[Islander711]

09/01/2012 at 12:11 am

Not much to report on right now. I am looking into getting a digital picture frame or two for her as a gift. I got to love the gift that keeps on giving.

[Islander711]

09/03/2012 at 8:06 am

The wife is getting a bit more interested in sex, but she is still a bit defiant. I forgot to take mu headsets off my computer so the files playing today were not doing much good today. oops.

[Islander711]

09/06/2012 at 5:06 pm

Well, I must say that I had a bit of a success last night. Something came up last night (money) that would have caused a big fight between my wife and myself and, although she was a bit displeased, she didn’t start the big fight and try to shift the blame to me. She even suggested a helpful solution to the problem. This is a pattern change as it’s always fight now, shift the blame, then fight some more, then maybe find a solution after we establish that it never could have been her fault.

I was thinking about changing the compilation this weekend, but I’m giving it another week to let this lesson sink in.

[tonguester4_69]

09/07/2012 at 5:03 am

That’s just the sort of change I appreciate in my wife. Sounds like it might be a good idea to give it another week.

[Islander711]

09/15/2012 at 7:56 am

Seems like she is getting more argumenative, I even have to justify my opinion about bad movies. I’m wondering if I should just give it up and get ready to leave.

[Fizbin]

09/15/2012 at 9:18 am

There are a several things it could be, none of which really require you to leave:
1. Her time of the month.
2. She’s pregnant.
3. Fatigue over the actual files in use.

The most likely being 1 (based on the timings of her behavior in your posts) and probably 3. You’ve been beating her with the sledgehammer (LHO) for a long, long time. Stop it!

I suggest dropping the current playlist and doing something fresh – and maybe waiting a day or two before starting.

My personal suggestion is Submissive Thoughts Wife. (I know, I’m sounding like a broken record here…) And maybe rotate I with one other file. A good choice might be the classic Ownership file 1 – especially if you have one customized with your name in it. Otherwise maybe leave Husband’s Authority in the mix.

[Islander711]

09/15/2012 at 7:44 pm

She doesn’t have her time and because of that she isn’t pregnant. I’ll give her a rest then try something else.

[Fizbin]

09/15/2012 at 8:33 pm

Sorry if I’ve offended with that.

[Islander711]

09/16/2012 at 6:58 am

No, you didn’t offend. It’s just that we are probally older than most people on here. I appriciate the feedback.

Tomorrow I am going through the scripts and comments again and try just doing a single file rather than a complation. Thanks for the help.

[Fizbin]

09/16/2012 at 10:10 am

You’re welcome.

Actually, if your concern about the cycles is the change of life, just because the “obvious” outward manifestation isn’t there anymore doesn’t mean that all of the hormonal and emotional cycles are totally gone. That’s especially true if she’s on replacement therapy, which is meant to mimic the youthful cycle to some degree.

[sdalie]

09/16/2012 at 10:31 am

Hang in there, patience is a tough trait but is needed in this type of activity.
Good luck.
Remember, we know the files are playing. In most cases they do not know these are being played. Perhaps resistance is playing with her and all the personal stuff going on does make a difference.

[Islander711]

09/16/2012 at 7:55 pm

I think that is true, she has always been a control freak and buts heads with me because she can’t control me and knows it. That’s why she married me in the first place, but I’m tired of the constant power struggle.

[Fizbin]

09/16/2012 at 9:05 pm

Have you considered going to a Taken in Hand/Domestic Discipline arrangement? Unfortunately, she would have to be the one to suggest it in order for it to be effective. (Though a custom file with the right affirmations might be able to give her a gentle nudge in that direction…)

[Islander711]

09/16/2012 at 10:50 pm

I will check into that. I’m studying hypnosis also. I’ve always been interested in it, and if she ever would decide to try, I could help, but she’s such a control freak that she never stays relaxed enough to go under. I keep hopeing though. I have some CD’c, but she always complanes that they are demanding so she never goes past the induction.

[Islander711]

10/06/2012 at 10:50 pm

Not much to report here. I haven’t put anything together nor has she listened to any files. I’m just deciding if I want to commit to any more time with her as I am so tired of the constant attacks on me. I have even moved to the other bedroom and I try to stay at work as much as possable. It’s kinda hard to do that as I don’t have many clients, but one can hope.

[tonguester4_69]

10/07/2012 at 4:18 am

I can understand how you feel as I have been there myself.I am fortunate in that my wife actually believes in the “traditional” marriage in which the husband is in control.I don’t know how old you guys are,but from your comments regarding change of life , I would guess you’re close to my age. I’m 56 and my wife is 57.The problem is most women women of our era have been strongly influenced by the feminist movement.I have spent the better part of 30 years fighting this same sort of battle although mine was a little more low-key I think. With my wife it was more snide remarks and put-downs in a joking manner. I finally got to the point where I was ready to forego a relationship even though I wasn’t willing to divorce or move out. The subliminals here have really helped, but I found I also needed to have very frank discussions with my wife over her control issues. I have read an article recently from a site called The Genuine Husband that I showed my wife, that helped her to understand me so much better. The article is called “Why Men Leave”. I must tell you it is a Christian blog site and written from a Christian point of view,but have found it applies to all relationships between men and women.Having a frank discussion about this article with regards to our relationship proved to be a major turning point in our relationship.It sounds as if you are at a crossroads as to whether you want to continue in the relationship.If that’s the case why not simply be honest about how you feel over the whole issue of fighting for control? Is it important enough to her that she’s willing to risk her relationship with you over it? I have found it to be a sign of strength, not weakness to admit pain and frustration. It sounds as if you genuinely love your wife. Do you believe she loves you? I don’t have all the answers for you,only you know what you want from your wife and she from you. In my case failure was not an option. I loved my wife too much to leave and couldn’t take the way things any longer. So we had the discussion.I told her I was unhappy and why. I don’t know if you have the same results I have had.From your tone, it seems you have little to lose.Believe me when I tell you that I wish you all he best.

[Islander711]

10/07/2012 at 8:51 am

I will check the site, thanks.

[MasterSouthernStar]

11/18/2012 at 8:54 pm

Islander – what’s the latest? How’d it go? Inquiring minds want to know – and I do too!

[Islander711]

11/18/2012 at 10:05 pm

I’m not doing anything presently. I need a contract so I can spend a bit of cash on proper playing devices. Or maybe she will go away. Presently I don’t really care.