My Training Journal

[Ryan]

01/16/2015 at 5:13 pm

Jan 16, 2015

Tonight will be the first night I begin playing the subliminal messages. I plan on playing silent constantly from my computer, although it’s in a room we don’t use much so it may not be effective here. I also plan on playing it all through the night behind nature sounds I’m generating from http://www.naturesoundsfor.me .

For the first 2 weeks, I plan to play the following script (Fixed grammatical errors from the original):

The female voice is relaxing for you.
Your inner voice likes listening to the female voice.
You find the female voices very relaxing.

I am your inner voice.

Your subconscious is open to your inner voice.

I am your inner voice.

The female voice is relaxing for you.
Your inner voice likes listening to the female voice.
You find the female voices very relaxing.

You will open your subconscious to your inner voice.

I am your inner voice.

Your subconscious will listen to your inner voice.

I am your inner voice.

The female voice is relaxing for you.
Your inner voice likes listening to the female voice.
You find the female voices very relaxing.

You enjoy hearing your inner voice.

I am your inner voice.

I am your inner voice.

The female voice is relaxing for you.
Your inner voice likes listening to the female voice.
You find the female voices very relaxing.

You are interested in hearing your inner voice, speaking to you.

I am your inner voice.

I am your inner voice.

The female voice is relaxing for you.
Your inner voice likes listening to the female voice.
You find the female voices very relaxing.

The inner voice is breath taking.
You want to do what your inner voice says.

I am your inner voice.

When your inner voice speaks, make sure you listen.

I am your inner voice.

My inner voice offers good advice.

I am your inner voice.

My inner voice is submissive.
I am submissive.
My inner voice is submissive.
You are submissive.

I am your inner voice.

The female voice is relaxing for you.
Your inner voice likes listening to the female voice.
You find the female voices very relaxing.

You enjoy letting your inner voice speak to you.

Relax listening to your inner voice.

I am your inner voice.

The female voice is relaxing for you.
Your inner voice likes listening to the female voice.
You find the female voices very relaxing.

I am your inner voice, I enjoy listening to my inner voice.
I am your inner voice, You will hear what I have to say.

I am your inner voice.

The female voices is relaxing for you.
Your inner voice likes listening to the female voices.
You find the female voices very relaxing.

I am your inner voice, I enjoy listening to my inner voice.
I am your inner voice, You will hear what I have to say.

You find your inner voice comforting to listen too.

I am willing to accept change in my life.
My inner voice will provide what I need.

My inner voice speaks directly to my subconscious mind.

I am your inner voice.

The female voices is relaxing for you.
Your inner voice likes listening to the female voices.
You find the female voices very relaxing.

Your inner voice speaks directly to you.
Your inner voice is comforting.

Some background: She’s already pretty submissive, but I want to re-inforce what I’m teaching her and what she’s learning. A big thing for me during the first few months will be a “Proof of Concept”. I plan to lay ground work with this (For 2 weeks), then for 2-4 weeks I will play a general submissiveness script. After these 4-6 weeks of ground work, I plan to test the concept by creating a script that suggests new words to use to refer to my penis, and suggest that she [wants to / loves to / knows I love to hear / etc] when she refers to it specifically as a “big, fat dick”. This is something she’s never said specifically, so if I can get her to say it once, re-inforce it positively, then hear her say it again I will have proved to myself that this method is valid and works, and will then decide where to go from there.

If anybody has any suggestions or tips on this process, I’d love to hear them. I will be checking back every day or so, but I won’t be posting frequently for these first couple weeks considering it’s just the ground-work and there won’t be any visible progress.

[Fizbin]

01/16/2015 at 8:11 pm

Welcome!

I am not a big fan of the stand alone converter, so I can’t really comment on your edits. As for everything else, it sounds like an interesting plan, and I look forward to hearing your reports. Some folks have reported having their girls use language that is featured in the files, but it also is easier to work general feelings and classes of behavior than specific actions.

It sounds like you already sorta get this, but a really big key is patience. Don’t change things up too soon if you don’t get instant gratification.

[Tap]

01/17/2015 at 9:31 am

Sounds like a good plan, but the inner voice affirmations to me are not as important. I have the opinion that specific action affirmations many times do work, depending on how you word it. It also helped me to believe that this method works.

I’ve had my wife enjoy doing specific acts of cleaning, specific acts of sex and BJs mentioned in my scripts, many of which she didn’t do before or hated doing.

[Ryan]

01/17/2015 at 10:42 am

Thanks for the advice / opinions. I will continue blasting the standalone converter scripts until I have time to mix up the next script, and then move straight into that.

[Ryan]

01/18/2015 at 7:34 pm

Here’s what I’ll be playing, for at least a few weeks:

Ryan is my master.
Ryan is my owner.
Ryan is your master.
Ryan is your owner.
Your master is your owner.
My master is my owner.

Ryan is my master.
Ryan is my owner.
Ryan is your master.
Ryan is your owner.
Your master is your owner.
My master is my owner.

I love my master.
My master loves me.
I will obey my master.
I will obey.
You will obey.
Obey master.

I love my master.
My master loves me.
I will obey my master.
I will obey.
You will obey.
Obey master.

I love to please my master.
I live to please my master.
You love to please your master.
You live to please your master.
I love to please Ryan.
You love to please Ryan.

I love to please my master.
I live to please my master.
You love to please your master.
You live to please your master.
I love to please Ryan.
You love to please Ryan.

I am happy being submissive.
I am happy being my master’s slave.
You are happy being a submissive slave.
You are happy only when you make your master happy.

I am happy being submissive.
I am happy being my master’s slave.
You are happy being a submissive slave.
You are happy only when you make your master happy.

I am happy being submissive.
I am happy being my master’s slave.
You are happy being a submissive slave.
You are happy only when you make your master happy.

[LordIceWing]

01/18/2015 at 8:44 pm

I have to ask, could we get some additional background here so we may be able to give better educated responses?

Does your girl know this is occurring?
Does she have any experience with BDSMDomestic Discipline?
How will she react to ‘slavery’ being pushed at her subconscious? Is the term offensive to her?

The ‘test phrase’ you’re trying to implement is, to be blunt, kinda degrading and dirty talk… Is that the kind of language she normally uses? How does she feel about humiliation and is something like that going to set off any triggers?

I can tell you I’ve been working with this stuff for six months now, and it took me a good month of critical examination before my first custom was where I wanted it… Speed and impulsiveness are not your friend, either with subliminals or a BDSM relationship… Strike that… ANY relationship…

L.I.W.

[Ryan]

01/21/2015 at 8:19 am

I’m actually pivoting and taking this a different direction, to start. I’ve having a lot of progress outside of the subliminal messaging and I’d just like to use it to reinforce the behaviors she’s already learning, for now. When she’s in a more permanent submissive state, I’ll move ahead with the proof of concept. Here’s what I’ve switched my first attempt script out for:

I am happy being submissive.
I am happy being a good girl.
You are happy being a submissive girl.
You are happy when you make your master happy.

My collar makes me feel submissive.
Your collar makes you feel submissive.
I want to wear my collar.
You want to wear your collar.
I want to wear my collar for my master.
You want to wear your collar for your master.
I’m a good girl when I wear my collar.
I want to be a good girl for Ryan.

I love to wear my collar.
You love to wear your collar.
My collar makes me happy.
Your collar makes you happy.
I’m a good girl when I wear my collar.
I want to be a good girl for Ryan.

Submitting to my master turns me on.
Submitting to your master turns you on.
Wearing my collar turns me on.
Wearing your collar turns you on.
I’m a good girl when I wear my collar.
I want to be a good girl for Ryan.

I want to wear my collar.
You want to wear your collar.
I want to wear my collar.
You want to wear your collar.
I love to wear my collar.
You love to wear your collar.
I love to wear my collar.
You love to wear your collar.
My collar makes me happy.
Your collar makes you happy.
My collar makes me happy.
Your collar makes you happy.
I’m a good girl when I wear my collar.
I want to be a good girl for Ryan.

[Ryan]

01/21/2015 at 8:27 am

@LordIceWing said:

I have to ask, could we get some additional background here so we may be able to give better educated responses?

Does your girl know this is occurring?
Does she have any experience with BDSMDomestic Discipline?
How will she react to ‘slavery’ being pushed at her subconscious? Is the term offensive to her?

The ‘test phrase’ you’re trying to implement is, to be blunt, kinda degrading and dirty talk… Is that the kind of language she normally uses? How does she feel about humiliation and is something like that going to set off any triggers?

I can tell you I’ve been working with this stuff for six months now, and it took me a good month of critical examination before my first custom was where I wanted it… Speed and impulsiveness are not your friend, either with subliminals or a BDSM relationship… Strike that… ANY relationship…

L.I.W.

She’s new to submission, never done it before, always been the one in control in relationships. She’s very strong, mentally and emotionally. However, after being pretty dominant in all aspects of life and calling her “good girl” when she did something I liked, she started showing more and more submission so that I’d continue to praise her. She loves when I call her a good girl now, and I casually brought up a collar a little over a month ago and she seemed elated at the idea. We had a collar custom made for her and she loves wearing it, but only when she feels like it. We’ve been in a rough patch over the past week so she’s shied away from it a little bit, and that’s why I’d like to re-enforce the feelings she’s already had with the subliminal messaging, as well as continuing to motivate her outside of this arena.

She does not know about the subliminal messaging. I don’t think she’s be offended, she’d probably be all for it knowing that she needs help being submissive at points because of her background of always being in control, but I feel like it will be more effective if she doesn’t know about it.

We’ve printed out a page-long paper we read regarding a Master/slave relationship that really resonated with us and laminated it, and she reads it from time to time. We don’t call each other master or slave, just “girl” and “Sir”, but I do believe she’d be responsive to Master/slave for that reason.

We’re both somewhat young (25 & 26) and although it is somewhat beyond her natural dirty talk vocabulary, I definitely don’t think the phrase I’m testing for would not be degrading to her. She has said things of similar nature during sex and foreplay before, and enjoys when I say similar things to her.

[LordIceWing]

01/22/2015 at 6:52 pm

Lost connection last night as I went to post my reply, lost the whole damn thing…. Grrr…

Ok, first, please understand, I started my M/s D/s relationship when I was younger than you. We’re coming up on two decades now… Nothing I’m saying is meant to sound condscending or indicate I know better than anybody else… Trust me, I don’t… I screw up on a regular basis… BUT, I have made (most) of these mistakes, so please, learn from my mistakes, so you don’t make them yourself. Also, these are MY opinions, you don’t like them, don’t take them in.

First, I would strongly recommend getting this in the open with your girl. Bring up alternate methods of training and conditioning… (Subliminal, hypnosis, pavlovian response (pleasure-reward), edging, writing lines, visual subliminals, whatever…) Even add a section to your contract about training… Use multiple of them, but do NOT do it covertly… Why?

Because of TRUST…

In my experience, a M-s D-s relationship is HEAVILY based on trust. Why? Because the sub oe slave is literally putting her life, her soul, in your hands… You break that? You think she’s going to believe in you (and if she is a slave, then she DOES believe in you) ever again? If you violate that trust, and start messing with her MIND and making permanent changes without consent (RACK or SSC, either one applies here), what does that make you? You do that, SHOULD she trust you or believe in you, ever again?

Collars:
Collars are for play. Why do I say this? A rigid piece of steel or even heavy leather, against the spine? Have you ever tried sleeping in that? I will tell you that as fun as the fantasy of a permanent collar is, and it IS a really cool concept, you have your slave sleep in it for monthsyears, it’s going to cause spinal column issues. trust me on this. You want one still, you put it on her in the morning, take it off at night after you put her ‘sleep restraint’ on her… We use a thin leather stringcord no thicker than a piece of spaghetti. It’s symbolic. What’s more important? Her health, or a lifetime of discomfort and you having a fantasy fulfilled for 2-3 years before the consequences of your actions come home to roost on your girl because of YOUR decision? Don’t break your toys, not everything heals or can be undone. Collars are symbols, an anklet, a bracelet, a ring, all of them can serve the part… GoreanEternity collars or other heavy style (and we have several) are reserved for short wear periods, or for High Protocol situations… (You don’t have ANYTHING to prove to anybody else, nor any obligation to live up to anybody else’s expectations)

Fantasy vs. Reality:
A M-s D-s Relationship. The MOST important word in that sentence is the longest one. That’s the part you have to work to maintain… the rest is fluff.

But, everything you do has consequences. Don’t let trying to make the fantasy work ruin the working relationship. I would recommend staying away from heavy S-m play… Stress (especially what the body interprets as an attack or repeated pain) releases the hormone Cortisol, which has long term consequences. There’s also the constant activation of the adrenal gland as the body activates fight or flight mode… As somebody who was in the public scene for almost a decade, there’s a reason that subs who have been there for a while physically deteriorate VERY quickly…

Also, put time and effort in… There’s no such thing as a quick fix… Even with the subliminals, you have to reinforce it with improving your OWN behaviors, doing the right thing, spending time customizing files for you and your girl. I’ve spend probably a hundred or two reading almost every script on here and WMM, figuring out what works, what I think is a HORRIBLE idea, and then coming up with files that 100% meet the needs of OUR relationship… No disrespect to Trainer81, but he doesn’t know me, and he doesn’t know my slavewife, so how could his files POSSIBLY be a 100% match for our needs? He gave me the tools, I’m the one who had to learn them before trying to build my own workspace and then my own masterwork furniture (to use a woodworking analogy)

Hope that helps and didn’t come across as TOO preachy (but I still do want you to think about what I said here, even if I was saying things you, or anybody else, doesn’t want to hear…)