My journal Continued

[Desty_1]

06/28/2012 at 5:53 pm

Now where was I?

I’m constantly looking at my goals. My end goals have never changed, a nice submissive wife. Short term goals always want to change. I’ll think of something I wish she eould do or not do, and I get tempted to change my play rotation. I have to look back at my end goal to stay focused.

I had immediate results from the new sledgehammer file. I had thought of adding, after a month of the sledgehammer, the My Husband is My Master file, then after a period of weeks, change the sledgehammer file from Love Honor Obey Husband to LHO Master. I was thinking. Obviously she would resist such thinking. Why make things harder than they have to be?

I’m playing the LHO Husband while I’m at home. As I leave for work, I switch it over to a customized version of Female Ownership #2. It is customized in that the term Master has been replaced with my name. The plan is to do things this way for the foreseeable future. IF I notice a marked improvement, I will create a customized version of Female Ownership #3.

[Desty_1]

07/01/2012 at 10:56 pm

I’m annoyed. While my wife is acting more and more submissive, they’re not in the areas I want her to act submissive in.

I’ve wondered before if it is possible to get quicker results by making files that are small changes in her current behavior instead of trying for huge behavior changes.

I’ve written out a custom file where I have the following goals in mind:

1. Have her watch tv in the bedroom after the boys go to bed. This is where my laptop is, playing the files. She already does this off and on, but I want her to constantly be in the bedroom, where she can listen to the files.

2. I want her to be watching tv in bed with her top off. She always says that she’s cold. I want her to feel warm while lying in bed, so warm that she’ll want to take her top off. While I do enjoy seeing her with her top off, this is mainly a way to see that the file is working.

3. She loves me. I know she loves me, but this establishes a base line for future files.

4. Pink is her favorite color. I know pink is her favorite color, but as above, this is to establish a base line for future files.

5. She will tell me about her day dreams. I future files, I want to try and direct her day dreams, so I will need to know what she is day dreaming about.

6. She finds me physically attractive. The reason for this is obvious. She says that she’s still attracted to me, but I used to be in way better shape when we first started dating.

Here’s the text of the file.

I enjoy watching tv in bed after the boys go to bed.

It helps relax me to watch tv in bed when I can.

Watching tv in bed is relaxing.

I feel safer lying in bed waiting for to come home from work.

Lying in bed makes me feel warm

I get hot lying in bed waiting for to come home from work.

Taking my top off in private will help me cool off.

I feel more comfortable lying in bed with my top off.

is my husband

I love my husband very much

Pink is my favorite color

I like to share my day dreams with my husband

I am physically attracted to my husband

Any suggestions are appreciated.

[Fizbin]

07/05/2012 at 2:49 pm

OK, first, could you elaborate on her being more and more submissive, but not in the way you want? In other words, what has changed, and what has not, that you have asked for? Also, if you could indicate what has been in the files, that would be helpful.

Second, the idea of the subliminals is that they will be absorbed into her as though they were her own thoughts. This means that the affirmations should be in a form that reflects how a woman talks to herself. “Self-talk” tends to be brief and to the point.

Take these two phrases from your script above:
It helps relax me to watch tv in bed when I can.
Watching tv in bed is relaxing.

The second is likely to be far more effective than the first. If she has it embedded that “Watching TV in bed is relaxing”, she will automatically tend toward that when she feels she needs to relax. Then, you can follow that up with thoughts like: “I need to relax more often” or “I need to take more time to relax”, maybe even “I love to relax after putting the boys to bed”.

On her top. If the room is cold, then she’s going to be cold too, and her subconscious will reject anything to the contrary in the long term. (Stage hypnosis effects are much more “in the moment” than long-term behaviors or triggers, and require on the spot adjustment by the ’tist in order to work at all.) Consider other ways to make her more comfortable without her top that are appropriate to your environment and compatible with her morals.

Also, does she actually refer to you as “my husband ” on a day to day basis? Unless we’re introducing someone, we usually think of them in terms of their name, or their title – perhaps interchangeably, but not both together. For example you probably think of “the boys”, or think of “Jimmy and Mike”, depending on the context. You probably don’t think about “the boys, Jimmy and Mike”.

Anyway, those are my first thoughts…

[Desty_1]

07/05/2012 at 5:55 pm

Quote from Fizbin on July 5, 2012, 14:49
OK, first, could you elaborate on her being more and more submissive, but not in the way you want? In other words, what has changed, and what has not, that you have asked for? Also, if you could indicate what has been in the files, that would be helpful.

She has become more submissive wife towards things that, in my opinion don’t matter, but she used to have to have her way on. For example, we were going to watch a movie the other night; i was tired and really didnt want to watch anything specific but did not want a chick flick. I asked her opinion, she gave it but was very much willing to eatch anything i wanted. On things that i do find important and do express my desires about, she is still rather resistant.

Second, the idea of the subliminals is that they will be absorbed into her as though they were her own thoughts. This means that the affirmations should be in a form that reflects how a woman talks to herself. “Self-talk” tends to be brief and to the point.

Take these two phrases from your script above:
It helps relax me to watch tv in bed when I can.
Watching tv in bed is relaxing.

The second is likely to be far more effective than the first. If she has it embedded that “Watching TV in bed is relaxing”, she will automatically tend toward that when she feels she needs to relax. Then, you can follow that up with thoughts like: “I need to relax more often” or “I need to take more time to relax”, maybe even “I love to relax after putting the boys to bed”.

Thanks for the suggestions. I will make adjustmemts.

On her top. If the room is cold, then she’s going to be cold too, and her subconscious will reject anything to the contrary in the long term. (Stage hypnosis effects are much more “in the moment” than long-term behaviors or triggers, and require on the spot adjustment by the ’tist in order to work at all.) Consider other ways to make her more comfortable without her top that are appropriate to your environment and compatible with her morals.

Funny, last night she commented that she was really hot when in bed. I keep the thermometer on 72 year round. If she says the same thing tonight, i will suggest that she can take off her gown to cool off.

Also, does she actually refer to you as “my husband ” on a day to day basis? Unless we’re introducing someone, we usually think of them in terms of their name, or their title – perhaps interchangeably, but not both together. For example you probably think of “the boys”, or think of “Jimmy and Mike”, depending on the context. You probably don’t think about “the boys, Jimmy and Mike”.

Anyway, those are my first thoughts…

I sincerely appreciate the comments. I’ll make several changes based upon them. I’m thinking of adding that her gown kerps getting twisted, its uncomfortable, etc.

[Fizbin]

07/06/2012 at 12:52 am

Some more thoughts…

I am not sure that I would “force” her to hang out for constant exposure. Eventually that could cause a kind of fatigue, where the message gets less and less effective.

While you might not think the things she’s submitting to are that critical, really they are. They are getting her in the habit of compliance and acceptance of your desires. These are somewhat low risk submissions, but if they prove successful, eventually the resistance to other areas will also fade. You’re fighting probably decades of feminist propaganda.

You are probably also fighting either a heavily puritanical upbringing or poor self-image (most likely both). Rather than trying to push her into exposure directly, try addressing the underlying conceptions that block her willingness to expose herself.

– build up her confidence in her appearance
“The human body is beautiful”
“My husband thinks I am beautiful”
“My body is beautiful”

– plant suggestions that private exposure is acceptable
“My body belongs to my husband”
“I can show my body to my husband”
“My husband loves to look at my body”
“I feel admired when my husband looks at my body”

– then go for the naked/topless in bed
“I love the feel of sheets against my skin”
“I feel itchy when I sleep in my nightgown”
“My nightgown feels too tight in bed”
“Wearing nothing in bed is relaxing”
“When I take off my clothes I feel refreshed”

These don’t necessarily belong in the same script! Work on one area at a time. As trainer81 says “Go Slow!”

[sdalie]

07/07/2012 at 2:51 am

Fizbin some great scripting examples!
Plenty of ideas.
Thanks.

[Desty_1]

07/10/2012 at 10:28 pm

After reading other posts and more info on the site, i have rewritten my file. I am using a 3 prong format for each line. For example, the line is “I am submissive.”

Line 1 I am submissive

Line 2 It is ok to be submissive

Line 3 , you are submissive

Every line goes through this format. We’ll see how this works for a month.

[Islander711]

07/11/2012 at 6:57 am

Here is something that will help with the being cold, it helped with my wife and I haven’t started a program with her yet. I got her to walk 15 min a day. 72 isn’t that cold so she might just need a bit of exercise to raise her cold resistance. You might need to get a tread mill. With kids, you will have to figure out a schedule to see if she can find the time. Sometimes the answer might be physical, you just might need a subliminal push to get her there.

[Desty_1]

07/31/2012 at 1:41 am

I’ve stopped playing all the files for the time being. I got my hands on a copy of Mark Cunningham’s Erotic Hypnosis. I’ve hypnotized my wife several times, but nothing like this.

He has a very good slave training video. He conditions obedience to pleasure. The more they obey, the more pleasure they receive. He continues to ramp everything up to where they need to be hypnotized and feel pleasure, and will do anything to get it. If i can figure out how to tie that conditioning in with files, oh boy.

[trainer81]

08/02/2012 at 5:04 pm

Hmm, funny you should speak of erotic hypnosis because I’m thinking of doing something like this. Down the road I would like to Dream Girls to have hypnosis files

I might give this Mark guy a email!

For what I have in mind though will be completely different

I hope my research goes well

Trainer81

[darkerlife]

08/04/2012 at 4:48 am

Id like to see one.

[ELFWITCH]

08/14/2012 at 7:27 pm

I only use (and only trust) Daniel, at http://www.hypnoticdreams.com/

His work is unbelievable. I have spoken with him personally on many occasions, as well as using many of his products. He is a good person, very reliable, with no intention of misusing his powers. He will not be stealing your wife, for example.

I agree with those who say that if you’re going to persuade someone to do something they weren’t already thinking of doing, it’s best to use really simple self-talk from a woman’s perspective. Getting a woman to want to remove her top… this is tricky, and I know you guys often think a woman is specifically reacting to years of feminism, but it actually goes much deeper than that.

When we’re little kids, we don’t feel self-conscious naked. Remember pictures of yourself as a small child? Even little girls go around naked, absolutely unselfconscious. This is the place you want to get back to, and it’s not easy for women (or many men, in my experience; in fact, only the man I’m with now is capable of walking around without any clothes on, which he’s told me he does quite deliberately to get me to pay attention to him LOL).

Anyway, for a woman to naturally remove her clothing, I agree the room has to feel warm, but she also has to think of being naked (even if it’s just her top) as completely normal and desirable, like when she was a child. Therefore, this message is about being and feeling free, as well as feeling okay with her body. Remember: it’s not “normal” behavior to go around without clothes on. It just isn’t. You don’t see a lot of naked people running through the world in general. Therefore, it has to become a natural response to undo what she has learned, and that might take quite some time to get used to.

In addition to that, I think your subliminal might have too many messages in it to take in all at once, and I agree that focusing on relaxing is probably the key message.

Something like this:

I like to relax
I see myself relaxing
Watching television is relaxing

I like to lie down and watch TV
Lying down to watch TV relaxes me

(Rather than mentioning a specific time of day or the children, which for many women is a total sexual turnoff! Jesus, do NOT mention your children!! We do not associate children with sex. We associate children with responsibility. Bleh.—Sorry had to vent).