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    hotaceazn
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    11/17/2013 at 2:13 am

    Hello! By way of introduction – I have been married about 15 years. My wife’s sex drive has been all over the place, and we have had a lot of issues throughout. Beginning of this year, she read the 50 Shades series and what a nice development that was! Suddenly my wife was who I wanted her to be and our relationship soared…..until she decided she didn’t like it and stopped. I was very bothered to say the least.

    This led to my attempts to try to get back to that place and I discovered this site. I had my doubts, I was a cynic. When I had checked out the site, Trainer had a free download about Dress Code and so I figured I would try it out – what did I have to lose? I downloaded the silent version, put it on my phone and played it every night from about 9 till 6. I was very surprised when a few weeks later she asked me to go shopping at Victoria Secrets and I got to choose the clothes. I signed up!

    I have kept a log, and will post bits of it later on, however the upshot is that thanks to these forums, I was able to choose and go with Subwife, HH and SS. These have all had a very quick and rapid effect on her. I believe that 50 Shades opened the door, she wants it to be like that, but some fear had stopped her. Using these, we are returning to those days.

    I became a gold member, and I want to thank Trainer for the site and Faust, Tap and Qwerty for all of their work and the info they share on the forums.


    hotaceazn
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    11/17/2013 at 2:18 am

    I numbered what I downloaded. All are silents. I play all of them on the phone at night while we sleep. Many times I am playing a game on the phone aiming the speaker toward her or it is resting on my chest with the speaker near her. Usually the phone is no more than 6 feet away from her. During the weekends, I am playing the phone non stop keeping it as close to her as I can as we are out and about.

    1) Subwife (sledgehammer)
    2) FO (part 2)
    3) AS
    4) LHO (sledghammer)
    5) HH (Sledgehammer)
    6) Slut
    7) HSG
    8) NLSG
    9) SS


    hotaceazn
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    11/17/2013 at 2:27 am

    I do not believe these results are normal. I think I am getting these results because A) i read the forums and tweaked accordingly and B) I am strengthening a dormant desire that is ready to bubble through anyway.

    Oct 7    Playing 1, 2, and 3 one time each. Then at night while she sleeps I am playing only 1 and 2 repeatedly.

    Oct 9    She usually wears an upper covering, but is now removing it before we sleep and I play with her breasts while we sleep. She is also clinging to me through the night.

    Oct 11    I played with her waking her up and having sex with her without a complaint.

    Oct 13    Thinking of changing I am a sub wife to Love Honor and Obey my husband starting tonight. After reading more of the forums, I am going to remove 3 and change with 4.

    10-17-13 4 has a high pitched tone that was noticed. Switching to 5. Currently running 1,5,2

    10-21-13 Started to reinforce the happiness and submissiveness of my wife last night. She suggested a night out for just the two of us. I then said that would make me happy which prompted a response of”You’re not happy?” I explained I am happy, but certain things like her coming to bed topless would make me happier.

    10-26-13 Downloaded and implementing 6. Interesting side affect of 6: while she was sleeping, she would start to become active, opening and closing her legs. Each time this occured was when 6 was playing. Around 2a she woke me up for an hour of hot sex. I will be gone for a week, but looking forward to the kids being gone during the weekend to really reinforce the subliminals that have not been playing for a week.

    11-1-13 Got back home after a week of being gone. My wife is excited about a night of kinkiness. Earlier in the week she told me she wants this because she doesn’t want me to be disappointed. Tonight I am changing the subliminals up. Will be using 1, 5, 9 (after seeing the quick success of 6. If this doesn’t work as well as I hope, I will go back to 6).

    11-3-13 Well, due to illness, things did not go as planned for 11-1-13. However, I stayed with my wife most of the day on the 2nd playing 5 and 9 repeatedly. During the night, while these were playing, her legs would twitch intermittantly and it was always when 9 was playing. I can only assume that when the affirmation of “I am a slut” is playing this occurs as it also occurs during the playing of 6. Later last night we went at it for quite a while, with me reinforcing the wording of 9 calling her a good girl, an obedient slave, and asking if she was my sex toy and her responding each time with “yes sir”. I plan on playing this for a month, perhaps less depending, before I switch up to adding 8. Currently I am playing 1,5 and 9.

    11-7-13 I was sick earlier this week, then my wife got sick again. For the few days she was sick, I had 1,9,5,9 playing in the room from my phone so she was exposed to it for at least 10 hours each night. Today she stayed home, so I kept my phone next to her downstairs for about 5 hours playing the same pattern. When we were in the kitchen she playfully grabbed at my crotch and when she went to our bed in the afternoon, she let be play with her breasts without a complaint which is not a normal thing. Also last night, we went clothes shopping for her. The next couple of weeks we will be attending different social events on the weekends. When she went to choose a dress, she kept asking me what I thought which was def not the norm, and when she liked something that I didn’t, I would say I dont like that, and she would agree with me and put the clothing back.

    11-9-13 Going to a friends birthday party tonight. Temporary switch of only 6 and 9 today to get her in the mood.

    11-12-13 Signed up for Gold yesterday and began playing 9-5-9-6. I want to make a script that will A) let her enjoy her body, B) let her enjoy and desire being looked at and desired by other guys C) tie her loyalty to my obedience.


    hotaceazn
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    11/17/2013 at 2:52 am

    Almost caught up – I made my own custom (1A) which is a combo of Taps that he shared and 6. I believe that playing this will get good results as the wording is such as she used. She said she wanted to be more adventurous to me, the script says

    I am sexually adventurous.

    I am applauded for being sexually adventurous.

    I am proud to be sexually adventurous.

    I am playing 1A almost continuously, but starting Monday night I am going to put 1A, 5 and 8 and start playing those.

    Now for the latest – Last night I made a joke with sexual innuendo and she got a bit bent out of shape saying all I think about is sex. However today, she made two sexual innuendo references. When she made the first, I simply told her I made a similar comment yesterday and she yelled at me. She smiled an apology. When she made the second, I went with it and she joined in with no problem. Then later during the day, I said something and she responded with “Yes Sir”. I asked her to repeat herself and she said “Yes sir” again. Also, she has been asking me for kisses. The next time she asks, I am thinking of making her beg a little for it.  ;-)

    Again thanks Tap!!


    Tap
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    11/17/2013 at 4:40 am

    Hell hotaceazn,

    I’m glad to be of help with the scripts. I have found customs to be the best at targeting specific issues that you want fixed. Reading through your journal, it seems like you have things pretty much set. I’d suggest sticking to one or two subliminals and going with that for awhile. If you’re choosing to go with customs, stick with a few. In my opinion, it’s ok to adjust or tweak here and there to fine tune your message, just as long as you don’t make major changes. I do this every few weeks for maximum benefit.


    Fizbin
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    11/17/2013 at 11:58 am

    Congratulations on a great success, and thanks for the complete, yet concise, update!

    One favor, please expand the titles of your files, Some of the abbreviations are in common use,  but others are not. (Generally speaking, when writing, it is good form to use a fully specified phrase, and indicate the acronym, on first use…)


    FaustsBoon
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    11/18/2013 at 5:31 pm

    Congrats on the successes man, and thank you for the kind words.  It always makes me feel good to think I have helped, even in a small way.

    Remember we’re always here for you as support, so if you have questions, or concerns, keep ’em coming, and we’ll all chime in before long!


    Qwerty
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    11/18/2013 at 11:26 pm

    Hotaceazn,
    Let me add my voice to those above in congratulating you on your success and welcoming you to the group. This group is knowledgeable and wise so do not be afraid to ask questions or to look for support.


    hotaceazn
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    11/20/2013 at 1:58 pm

    Interesting event last night and this morning. Last night as I was laying down, she took my hands and placed them under her top for me to feel her while she slept. This morning she woke me up by humping my leg. I could feel her pussy tighten as she rubbed against me. After she left for work, I looked at her panties from last night and there was a wet stain in the crotch. I am not going to do anything about it, however. I am going to wait for her to first ask, then beg me to have sex with her, reinforcing what is written in the script.(I beg my husband for sex)

    Also, I will clear up my subliminal list

    1) Subwife (sledgehammer)
    2) Fem Ownership (part 2)
    3) Accept Slave
    4) Love H Obey (sledghammer)
    5) His Happy (Sledgehammer)
    6) Slut
    7) Happy Slave
    8) No limits slave
    9) Sex Slave


    hotaceazn
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    11/23/2013 at 6:53 pm

    Well this morning was very interesting! I have done nothing to push the sex issue all week mainly because I wanted her to ask me. This morning she told me she was very horny and needed sex – two of the lines in the new script. I told her she would need to beg me – which she did, calling me master. All which is in the script. Also in the script it says I want you to flick (not flick) me master, so while we were active, she says please flick me sir. I responded with what is my proper title – call me by my proper title and she responded please flick me master – again word for word from the script.

    Last week I slapped her butt in public, and she told me that was not appropriate. So I changed the script by adding I like it when my master feels my butt in public, I get turned on when he does it, etc. I only added 4 lines, but last night we were out, she was playing with my butt so i slapped hers. She responded in a joking matter that that was harassment – please do it again!

    I think I am getting this progress because these things are dormant, she does want it to come out, and the scripts are focused on bringing that up to the top.


    Tap
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    11/23/2013 at 7:30 pm

    It sounds like you’re having great success. Are you just playing your one custom or more from that list of 9.


    hotaceazn
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    11/23/2013 at 11:34 pm

    Playing one custom and number 8.


    Fizbin
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    11/24/2013 at 2:04 pm

    Congratulations!


    hotaceazn
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    11/29/2013 at 2:04 am

    Update: Two days ago she was taking a shower, and asked me to hand her the soap. I did, but she was disappointed that I didn’t grope her. Normally she doesn’t like me touching her when she showers, so this is def out of character. So I did and when she was done, I got her dirty again, but on my terms.   ;-) . Today she mentioned that i must really like her breasts since I am always holding them as i go to sleep. Normally, she would push me away, but she is accepting of this. I am writing a new script that will help increase her trust of me, as well as have her demonstrate she trusts me with a specific area.


    hotaceazn
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    12/05/2013 at 2:49 pm

    I created a new script that I have started playing as of last night. This script contains some things my wife has been unwilling to do in the past. After it ran for about 2 hours or so she was complaining of a headache. I sorta expected that, however, it could only have been coincidence as well. It is so easy to want to jump from script to script when positive results occur (I think it is easier to want to do it when you get positive results then when you don’t), and I am constantly reminding myself to be patient. Currently I am now running the two custom scripts. Each script contains bits and pieces of previous scripts from Trainer, so there are only a few new additions to what has been playing. The first custom has been running for almost 3 weeks with minor variations added on two occasions (those had to do with syntax more than content).

    So to recap – playing custom 1 script for about 3 weeks now, seeing positive changes every week.

    Started new script (custom 2) last night, she got a headache, probably related, wont know till tonight or tomorrow night.


    hotaceazn
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    01/04/2014 at 10:30 pm

    If you don’t want to read through all of this, there is a recap at the end.

    Been a while since I updated so here goes:

    12-14-13 I may be pushing for too much here, so I am dropping down to the original custom script.

    12-23-13 Seeing some changes – specifically those involving me groping her or choosing her clothes. I am going to make a minor change and have the sledgehammer run as well as a single voice. Hoping to see more changes quicker in the next few days.

    12-29-13 Made some more minor changes. Specifically I added for her to be more slavish, reinforced she has nice breasts, and she wants me to grope her breasts and butt in public more. Made the single file. Created a sledgehammer with 4 voices.

    12-30-13 Realized I made a small blunder in my script. Fixed it then remade the sledge and single subs.

    1-3-14 I know it seems like I am jumping with scripts, but the main parts of the scripts are remaining the same.

    That being said, I have gone ahead and once again changed the script! The new script has two new components that the previous did not, however, the main focus is still there. The main focus being submissive towards me, and having an increased libido. It is slightly longer at 12 minutes instead of 10 minutes, which means it will be heard 5 times an hour instead of 6. I will be making a sledgehammer with 4 voices as well and will be playing that also. Finally, the concept of triggers came up so I have added that into the current script.

    I found an old digital picture frame. I set it up in our bedroom, tested the sound and it looks good. It appears there is a downside, however, in that the video component doesn’t work the way I would hope – but that’s OK since I am more interested in the sound component, and that appears to be working.

    1-4-14 Last night while in bed, I had my hands on top of her nightshirt on top of her breasts. She lifted her shirt and placed my hands directly on her breasts. I believe this is from the new script additions. The additions, as I said previous were minor.

    Anything my master tells me to do, I do it.

    has been changed to:

    Anything my master tells me to do, I do it right now!

    as an example.

    TO RECAP:

    Added more components to the script, removed components that were either not working at all, or are now deep seated.

    Added the phrase right now throughout the script.

    Alternating between a single voice script and a sledge hammer 4 voice.

    Put this into a picture frame that will be playing 24/7 in the bedroom.

    Script is now 12 minutes instead of 10, however I was able to keep the SH under 10 minutes. (Has to do with the suggestion that the single voice run at a slower speed for clarity)


    hotaceazn
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    01/30/2014 at 2:43 pm

    Well, it has been a while. Things seemed to have gone well. I had cut down the script to 6 minutes, one voice. Things seemed to be going my way slowly, but I am patient. However, today, my wife tells me she is unhappy in our marriage since I started working from the house. She says she is not happy anymore, and thinks we need counseling. The rub is last night, she wanted me to hold her boobs, and she told me how much she loved me and she seemed as if she was happy. She mentioned to me two weeks ago I made it hard for her to be happy in this marriage, she cited some things which I have been working on changing. I also made some more minor changes to the script emphasizing happiness. Again, it seemed to have worked, but then she pulls this. She is a director of a hospital,,so I took some of trainers lines in another thread and put them in the script. I am unsure how to proceed. I have started writing a new script. Please advise!

    I work very hard all day.
    I think it is relaxing to let go around my husband.
    I only need to be aggressive at work.
    I feel safe submitting to my husband.
    Giving in and obeying my husband frees me of burden.
    Work is a place of business.
    I enjoy being home with my husband.
    My husband is my reward for working hard.

    I am happy with my husband.
    I am happy with my marriage.
    I know my husband works hard.
    My husband always works hard at what he does.
    My husband always makes me happy.

    I am happy when my husband holds me.
    I feel secure when my husband is with me.
    I feel secure when my husband holds me.
    I know my husband is always there for me.

    Being a good wife makes me happy.
    I want to be a good wife.
    Being a good wife makes my husband happy.
    Being a good wife makes me happy.
    A good wife is submissive to her husband.
    A good wife is happy with her marriage.
    A good wife has sex with her husband often.


    trainer81
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    01/30/2014 at 3:14 pm

    Try taking out very and use: I work hard all day.
    I work hard because I love my husband.
    I my husband loves me.

    Remove this line: I only need to be aggressive at work.

    Keep it all about love :)

    Hope some of this helps,

    Trainer81


    hotaceazn
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    01/30/2014 at 3:44 pm

    Thanks Trainer! I just got off of the phone with my wife. She is a workaholic, and takes a negative view of life. When we met, I helped her see life wasn’t as bad as she thought and great strides had been made in that direction. She is Asian and has a strong work ethic, as do I (not Asian!). I put a lot of time in on what I do at the job and I work hard at what I do with proven results. However, her perception is I don’t do the work I claim I am doing and am putting on my time sheets. She doesn’t trust that I am being honest with my time sheet, despite the fact my boss and I have had discussions on how to handle my time sheet. So it bottom lines that her trust in my doing the work I do and recording that properly is not there. She would prefer it if I went to an office where she wouldn’t be able to perceive this.Below is the new script with some changes that Trainer suggested as well as a new section.

    I work hard all day.
    I think it is relaxing to let go around my husband.
    I feel safe submitting to my husband.
    Giving in and obeying my husband frees me of burden.
    Work is a place of business.
    I enjoy being home with my husband.
    My husband is my reward for working hard.

    I am happy when my husband holds me.
    I feel secure when my husband is with me.
    I feel secure when my husband holds me.
    I know my husband is always there for me.

    I am happy with my husband.
    I am happy with my marriage.
    My husband always makes me happy.
    I know my husband works hard.
    My husband always works hard at what he does.

    My husband is honest.
    My husband is honest with his timesheet.
    I trust my husband to do the right thing.
    My husband always does the right thing.
    I always trust my husband does the right thing.

    Being a good wife makes me happy.
    I want to be a good wife.
    Being a good wife makes my husband happy.
    Being a good wife makes me happy.
    A good wife trusts her husband.
    A good wife trusts her husband all the time.
    A good wife is submissive to her husband.
    A good wife is happy with her marriage.


    trainer81
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    01/30/2014 at 5:41 pm

    Looks good just go slow with your wife and help her to see the positive views of life. Just use some common sense and you’ll be fine :)

    Trainer81


    eldrin81
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    01/30/2014 at 11:53 pm

    Sounds like something my wife does as well. She always seems to be in some secret competition with everyone about how she works harder. And a man working from home is always seen by many people as somehow lazy or not real work by a lot of women who harbor double standards and warped senses of equality. My honest opinion is that it may not necessarily be just about trust. It may be more about envy. You said she works hard, in a hospital setting, as a director, which is higher stress than most jobs. Does she dislike her job? Does it reward her as much as it did once? Is your job more rewarding and less stressful than it was before? If these things are true it may indeed be envy and the trust and accusations may just be her way of coping. Just some thoughts, you got the details so you must be the judge of course.


    eldrin81
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    01/30/2014 at 11:55 pm

    Also, I would remove the first line about I work hard all day. It’s unnecessary. She already thinks this, and since she thinks she works hard and you don’t it may be helping to indirectly reinforce that idea. Maybe replace it with a more positive line about relaxing and unwinding to complement th second line.


    Tap
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    01/31/2014 at 3:23 am

    This is how I would do your script. I’d take out all references to work and make it only positive about you, being happy, and your happy marriage. I’d shorten the number of affirmations, and make some of them simpler for the subconscious to understand. I’d then put 2 seconds pause between each affirmation so it sinks in. I’d go with something like below:

    I feel relaxed around my husband.
    I feel safe submitting to my husband.
    Obeying my husband frees me of my burden.
    I enjoy being home with my husband.
    My husband is my reward for working hard.

    My husband holding me make me happy.
    My husband holding me gives me security.
    Being with my husband gives me security.
    My husband is always there for me.

    I am happy with my husband.
    I am happy with my marriage.
    My husband always makes me happy.
    My husband always works hard at what he does.

    My husband is honest.
    My husband is honest with his timesheet.
    I always trust my husband to do the right thing.
    My husband always does the right thing.

    Being a good wife makes me happy.
    Being a good wife makes my husband happy.
    A good wife trusts her husband all the time.
    A good wife is submissive to her husband.
    A good wife is happy with her marriage.
    I am a good wife.


    Fizbin
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    01/31/2014 at 10:49 am

    I agree with Tap. (Nice refinement to the script, by the way.) Focus on the relationship and overall attitude, not the symptom du jour.


    hotaceazn
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    01/31/2014 at 3:51 pm

    First I just want to start by saying the support I get from this group of folks is really awesome! It does mean a lot to me.

    We have been married for 16 years and during the beginning parts of our marriage, I wasn’t the best husband. I was selfish and self centered, making plausible, and even real excuses as to why I was the way I was. I had since then learned how to be a better husband, responding to her needs, and learning what she needed from me to make her more fulfilled as a woman and my wife. A few weeks ago she exploded with how hard it was for her to be happy in our marriage which came as a complete surprise to me. And then she reiterated that the other day. You have seen the previous logs, I know the subliminals had been working with the positive changes I had seen in her behavior. A part of me is thinking that this blow up is a part of her fighting the changes occurring.
    I have been working from home for about the last 9 months or so. I teach computer certification classes remotely for the employees at my work. We use remote software and conference calls, and I have a good success rate of those who take the cert tests and earn their certifications. Recently, due to work load, I have had no classes which allows me to write the new material up for new classes I am starting.
    Regarding Eldrins comments, I have often thought there was a jealousy, or envy factor there. She travels about an hour to get to work, I travel 10 feet. When I explained how I was able to earn OT from work, she went ballistic claiming I didn’t really work during the time I was claiming, despite the fact I talked to my boss who told me to submit my time the way I did. I think she loves her job, but hates dealing with the stupidity that comes with that position. I don’t make as much money as she does, and she is always afraid I am going to get fired and then we will really be up a creek, despite my assurances that wont happen. Not bragging, but many managers at my workplace have said they would want me working for them in a heartbeat if anything happened to my current position, so I am not afraid about not having a job.
    We recently came into some money (waiting for the check) which will allow us to pay off all of the bills but the mortgage and allow her the option to quit her job. But she has fears that I wont make money and she will have to go full time. We have two kids, 15 and 13 and she is worried about college (even though some of the money we are receiving is going to their bank accounts to offset the cost of college).
    I was very hurt and upset last night and she could sense that. I was going to talk with her tonight and more or less put my foot down and tell her she is never to ask me about my business again (Godfather!) ;-)
    Actually I was going to tell her she needs to trust that I am not doing anything wrong, and everything I am doing has been approved by my boss. She needs to trust I am doing work, and not doing things that would not be proper in the work environment. She told me it would be better if I went to an office and I would have gotten more work done on my training. I explained I would get less work done because everyone would be asking me questions and I wouldn’t be able to get anything accomplished.
    I did run with the last script I posted last night, but am changing it now. Thanks to Tap, Trainer and Fiz for your input. I greatly appreciate it, and always, any other input is always welcomed!


    J66R
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    01/31/2014 at 4:23 pm

    I won’t comment on you being the less than ideal husband. It’s good you recognize that and are trying to rectify to flaws in yourself. That is the way to man-up in that situation.

    But, to go along with this turn in topic, I thought I’d chime in on my experience. You may or may not see a parallel.

    About 5 yrs ago or so I left a decent paying job to start my own business. My wife, since, has express similar misgivings about my “work habits”. Now she doesn’t have a job outside the home but she still doesn’t seem to feel I have a “real job”. And makes that statement regularly in exactly those words. She also expresses that she doesn’t see how I make my money because she doesn’t think I work that many hours to bill that much, and keeps worrying that my customers will think I am cheating them and I’ll lose them and lose income. I also tell her that it is unfair for her to question my integrity on the matter but she thinks all I do is “play on the computer all day”. In my line of business I do a LOT of researching of topics and issues and so I am often watching videos, taking online training, WebEx sessions with clients and vendors.

    The bottom line is that she actually stated that she thought I was being a crook about a year and half ago. I decided I need to find a small office. So I did that, I got a small office in town, very cheap, just big enough for a desk and an internet connection and a couple of days a week I’ll go there to work making the loud announcement “I’m going to the office”.

    She has lightened up on the “no job” thing a bit and seems more confident I am actually “working”. But still I don’t think she really believes it. I think she is just waiting for me to “get caught”.

    Which I find to be a total crock. If you think about it, it’s only been a little over 100 years that such jobs, where one leaves the home away from family all day and returns at the end of the day, has become the prevalent method of earning a living. Before then most people did work out of their homes, accountants, doctors, lawyers, merchants, craftsmen, etc. For the VAST majority of human civilization, children grew up seeing their parents WORK and so understood that was what they would have to do when they grew up, was to WORK. Wives respected us because they saw us sweat and bleed for them, and saw us struggle over things we tried to figure out and eventually triumph over. Now, we are accused of not working if we stay home to work as if hiding the work from the family is better. Now children do not see us work. I guess my problem with that attitude is that it promotes a sense of self value based on outside opinion rather than true self worth. We and our wives and children seem to rely on someone else (whoever signs the paycheck) to determine our worth and if we do not go THERE for THEM to evaluate us then we are not really worth something.

    But, if the finances can stand it and if you take her there to prove it exists, and if the reason you are working from home is because of distance from the main job site offices or something, maybe renting a cheapo office somewhere might lessen the strain and give her the illusion she is looking for, for now.


    seekenq
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    01/31/2014 at 4:29 pm

    I second the support for Taps approach.
    Keep the focus positive and about her attitude towards your relationship.
    With a solid foundation there you should then be able to tackle the other issues one by one as they come up.
    Lastly, (perhaps obvious but not already stated by others), I would only run this one script with as much exposure as possible.


    hotaceazn
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    01/31/2014 at 4:56 pm

    J66R, that is almost an exact situation here. Prior to this I was a field tech for my company, so she saw me leave every day and come back home. Now I am home when the kids get home, I pick them up from school when they need it, take them to school, do the doctors visits, dentists, etc and still get my work done! The nearest office my company has is 30 miles away and they do not have any vacant offices. The next nearest is 50 miles and they just moved into a temporary place till a more permanent office is done being constructed. The third nearest is about 80 miles away and takes me anywhere from 2 to 3 hours to get to depending on traffic. I go there rarely – I will be going there next week for two days.
    Seek, I have a digital picture frame that plays sound. The frame is broken in that the pictures don’t show, but the sound works great. I play that 24/7 in our bedroom which is the room she spends the most time in at home. If she is not there, I have it playing on my phone which I conveniently place on the chair or safe near where she is sitting. I am only using the one voice, and this is the only script running.

    Again – this input means so much to me – Thank you!!


    eldrin81
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    I will second what has been said by J66R. It is probably partly society, and partly evolutionary. In days gone by men went out to hunt, and returned with meat from a fresh kill. Now if a man works from home it is primarily on a computer, so it is not obvious to anyone casually observing that work is being done. Also the word ‘work’ is nebulous at best, and many people, these wives included only associate it with labor in which one is sweating and physically exerting, or having some ever present boss or other extraneous factor to affirm that some kind of work is being done. Remind your women the old adage, work smart not hard. Working smart is not less work, its just a different form of work, more taxing on the brain, less on the body. Your customers will not think you are a crook either. If they are happy with what you charge and what your service is, then all is well. Value is merely a perception. My wife has a similiar attitude about her crafting, that she doesn’t want to overcharge for fear of some public scrutiny that will never occur, so she pays herself less than minimum wage, far less, by charging only slightly over the materials cost without accounting for time it took and what her time is worth. If a customer does not believe your service is worth its value, they will try negotiate anyway. All successful entrepneurs go against the grain.

    Given all this, I still believe these attitudes from both your wives, and mine as well stem more from envy, not from actual lack of trust. They have to pick apart what you are doing, because A) they envy that you are doing something they are not, and because B) “Action always offends the inactive.”

    When I first started getting into fitness and lifting 8 years ago my wife would constantly be negative and go on rants, because she wasn’t working out. Its all because YOU have chosen to make a positive change in your life, and they see you as pulling ahead of the pack, and in their distorted, broken sense, they wish to reel you back, misery loves company and all that.

    The Trap of their line of thought however, is that you are their husband, and your improvement leads to improvements in their life as well, but society teaches women to be ‘independent’ or basically that ‘they dont need no man, and that men are small children who need constant supervision. So anything you do is to be suspect and questioned.’

    Just a big rant here I guess, but all of these attitudes I have seen in multitudes of women across the board, and it is ruining them and their relationships. The old adage that women don’t really know what they want I believe is often true.

    The best thing you can do is dig to the heart of what really drives her attitudes and attack it in the subliminals, and hold civil but firm discussions with her about it.


    hotaceazn
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    Well interesting event. We got our tax paperwork in so I ran the program to get them done and ran into a bump in the road in entering the data correctly. So I let me wife know I wasn’t sure and she asked me what i think we ought to do. This is kind of a first. So I told her I want to go to the accountant and have them check it over. Do to work, she couldn’t make it, so she texted me saying “I can not make it, so do what you need to. I trust you” with a kiss smiley.

    There is no doubt that the script is working on her.


    eldrin81
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    02/05/2014 at 4:26 am

    Awesome how such a simple emotional statement can make your day.


    hotaceazn
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    Just an update – I was away last week for work. I have the script running on the photo frame, 24/7 so even when I am not there, it is not a big deal. When I got back Friday, my boss called me and told me he wanted me to go back this week. When I mentioned it to my wife, she was very upset, though understanding, because this would be two weeks I am not around. She mentioned how hard it was last week and how much stress she was under getting everything done. She also said she is not happy I would not be around, which is all positive. AS a side note, when I got back on Friday, I saw the new script that trainer made and put that on the frame as well.
    Last night she was telling me she is not a good wife to me. She said she is mean to me. I asked her how are you mean to me, and she said the last fight we had (the one prompting the current script). I asked her if she was happier now than she was at the time of the fight and she said a little bit. I then asked her how else are you not a good wife and she said I dont give you sex enough. That blew me away. I asked her if she needed sex, she said she didn’t need it, but she likes it, which is again a different answer than previously.
    As a final note, Friday night we were talking about sex and she said she has a stressful job and isn’t up for sex. I told her thats exactly when she needs sex – when there is a lot of stress. So I want to add:

    Sex relieves stress
    I need sex to relieve stress
    Sex with Hotaceazn relieves my stress
    I need sex with Hotaceazn every day to relieve stress.

    This is my current script and it currently runs under two minutes with one voice, so I added spaces in it to bring it to two minutes so I can better track the playing of the script. I want her to see me not just as her husband, but as her master as well, but as a gradual transfer. Let me know what you think.

    I feel relaxed around my husband.
    I feel safe submitting to my husband.
    Obeying my husband frees me of my burden.
    I enjoy being home with my husband.
    My husband is my reward for working hard.

    My husband holding me, makes me happy.
    My husband holding me, gives me security.
    Being with my husband gives me security.
    My husband is always there for me.

    I am happy with my husband.
    I am happy with my marriage.
    My husband always makes me happy.
    My husband always works hard at what he does.

    My husband is honest.
    My husband is honest with his timesheet.
    I always trust my husband to do the right thing.
    My husband always does the right thing.

    Being a good wife makes me happy.
    Being a good wife makes my husband happy.
    A good wife trusts her husband all the time.
    A good wife is submissive to her husband.
    A good wife is happy with her marriage.
    I am a good wife.

    A good wife obeys her husband.
    A good wife trusts her husband.
    A good wife is a good slave.
    I am a slave.
    A good slave trusts her master.
    I trust my master.
    Being a good slave makes me happy.

    A good wife has sex with her husband often.
    A good slave has sex with her master often.
    Having sex with Hotaceazn makes me happy.
    I need to have sex with Hotaceazn often.

    Hotaceazn is my husband.
    My husband is my master.
    My master and my husband are the same.
    Hotaceazn is my master.

    My master holding me, makes me happy.
    My master holding me, gives me security.
    Being with my master gives me security.
    My master is always there for me.
    I always trust my master.
    I always trust my master in all things.

    My master is my inner strength.
    My inner strength comes from my master.
    I will rely on my master.
    I will find my inner strength from my master.
    I will rely on my master.
    I will learn to rely on my master.
    I will rely on my master.
    I want to rely on my master.
    My master is my inner strength.
    I will rely on my master.
    I will find my strength from my master.
    I will rely on my master.


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    My first thought is while the content is good, it’s a little long. Maybe go through and see if you can cut it down to around 20-25 lines. Some seem very close to one another in content. Just my opinion, of course.


    xythont
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    Thanks for the log and the scripts, hotaceazn. I’m going to be working my way into custom scripts in a few weeks and I think that this work will be a huge inspriation/basis.


    hotaceazn
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    I wanted to update – my wife had seemed to be doing well, things seemed to be better, then I had to leave for to weeks and when I got back it hasn’t been the best week at all! I have been trying to figure out why, so I looked at the script and saw my blunder – My husband is always there for me.
    The problem was for two weeks, I wasn’t there for her. With me doing more traveling soon and not being here for her, I realized her mind was/is aggressively fighting the script. So I removed it from the script and am playing it without the lines (there is a second line that says My master is always there for me) and going to see how that works. I am also playing trainers new script as well.


    hotaceazn
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    It is amazing how a little change just works. I removed those lines and added a small section from an original script I had created with a minor change. I then put that file on my phone and on the photo frame and began playing on the frame. It seemed like someone through a switch. She reverted back to her new normal self. We were doing a lot of traveling over the weekend in my car, so I made the point of playing it through the car speakers under the guise that I didn’t really want to listen to the radio.
    Today during lunch she made the comment “I know you work hard” as part of a conversation we were having which thrilled me to no end since that was one of the things that sparked the current script.
    I don’t ever recommend changing things on the script every few days. But if you see negative behavior like I did, look and see if its the script, and if so then change it ASAP! The current script has been running for a month, with very small tweaks here and there (a line here, a word there) and things seem to be doing better.


    hotaceazn
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    Just a minor update – I had been running my custom for almost two months and have seen a lot of positive results regarding her trust of me. With that now occurring, I changed over to FMO 2 and 3. I had run 2 when I first started with almost no result. After running 2 and 3 for a little over a week, I am noticing almost immediate change. She said thank you sir without thinking the other day, and she has been very submissive around me. My plans are to keep them running through all of April, then replace 2 with a custom that will expand a bit on 2 and 3.


    Fizbin
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    04/15/2014 at 11:38 am

    Congratulations! The value of patience in this process is way underrated. :)


    Qwerty
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    04/15/2014 at 1:29 pm

    Congratulations. As Fizbin said patience and consistency are the keys to subliminals having a chance to work.


    J66R
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    04/15/2014 at 3:32 pm

    Congrats from here as well. And from someone who has had excellent success being patient (running the same custom sledge for about a year) I throw my support in with Fizbin & Qwerty for the concept. Good on ya’!


    gtbear
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    04/16/2014 at 1:09 am

    What is “FMO” 2 and 3?

    and congrats on some very successful scripting!


    Qwerty
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    04/16/2014 at 1:24 am

    I believe he is referring to the Female Ownership series of trainers files. I had recently download them and they gave me some great ideas and had some interesting effects when I tried them out.


    gtbear
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    04/16/2014 at 1:45 am

    I don’t see them… where are the FMO series and is that the title for them? Maybe I am looking for the wrong thing…?


    gtbear
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    04/16/2014 at 3:56 am

    I found the PRO ILS script… still hunting for the others.


    tonguester4_69
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    04/16/2014 at 6:01 am

    They are in the mind control section,gtbear.


    gtbear
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    04/16/2014 at 6:44 am

    @tonguester4_69 said:

    They are in the mind control section,gtbear.

    Thanks tonguester, I probably would have taken a very long time to find them there (if at all).


    keekeeros
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    04/16/2014 at 5:35 pm

    gtbear

    Trainer did an excellent job with Dream Girls Self Mind Control, worked really good for me, I do not know if you tried that yet!

    Hope all works for you, seams like all the guys are very helpful, as for myself it seems the shorter the message the better it works – but I hide the message under soft jazz music with the message just low enough so as not to hear it. with silent= I just turn down the volume.
    I also use Wi-Fi speakers in the house and play through the computer. hope this helps and gives you ideas to pounder


    gtbear
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    04/16/2014 at 6:22 pm

    keekeeros,

    “I also use Wi-Fi speakers in the house and play through the computer.”

    I am going to have to look into the speakers thing… also looking into picture frames that play mp3s etc. I don’t want to spend a bunch of money though.


    trainer81
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    04/16/2014 at 6:50 pm

    I use picture frames myself for playing subliminal mp3. I bought mine on ebay from some seller, just look for something that offers mp3 playing.

    Trainer81


    trainer81
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    04/16/2014 at 6:51 pm

    @keekeeros said:

    gtbear

    Trainer did an excellent job with Dream Girls Self Mind Control, worked really good for me, I do not know if you tried that yet!

    Hope all works for you, seams like all the guys are very helpful, as for myself it seems the shorter the message the better it works – but I hide the message under soft jazz music with the message just low enough so as not to hear it. with silent= I just turn down the volume.
    I also use Wi-Fi speakers in the house and play through the computer. hope this helps and gives you ideas to pounder

    That’s great it’s one of my favorite files…


    gtbear
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    04/17/2014 at 12:18 am

    @Trainer81 said:

    I use picture frames myself for playing subliminal mp3. I bought mine on ebay from some seller, just look for something that offers mp3 playing.

    Trainer81

    I have found one used on Amazon.com and am ordering it now. Thanks, it’s always good to know what the miestro uses.


    keekeeros
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    04/17/2014 at 8:33 am

    gtbear

    I tried a picture frame and was not happy with the results. one thing I did do that seem to get results was changing the mp3 format to the wma format. might have something to do with the way mp3 packs a file and wma does not. in addition to that my wife has a hearing problem so she might pick up the wma easier. I use the wma format in all recording of files now. Just another idea to ponder. The picture frame I have plays a windows format but the sound was not that good and if I remember I played mp3 format files, think I will change that to wma and see if that is a difference. will let you know if results are better. It does take time. good luck.


    keekeeros
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    04/17/2014 at 12:35 pm

    gtbear

    I also use bose Wi-Fi speakers, they give good sound – thinking about a surround sound system that might work better

    always pondering on what would work best


    hotaceazn
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    04/20/2014 at 4:55 am

    I am currently using a picture frame that is broken. The sound works, but the pictures do not. It is laying on my desk face down, plugged in collecting dust and pounding out the silents

    Also as an update, I am seeing rapid success in that the past week on no less then 3 occasions she called my sir and no less then 5 ties I told her to do something, she started to say no, I reinforced my dominance (voice and what I said) and she submitted.Very pleased so far. Will continue FMO 2 through April, then switch it out for a custom while still playing FMO 3.


    gtbear
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    04/20/2014 at 5:29 am

    @hotaceazn said:

    I am currently using a picture frame that is broken. The sound works, but the pictures do not. It is laying on my desk face down, plugged in collecting dust and pounding out the silents

    Also as an update, I am seeing rapid success in that the past week on no less then 3 occasions she called my sir and no less then 5 ties I told her to do something, she started to say no, I reinforced my dominance (voice and what I said) and she submitted.Very pleased so far. Will continue FMO 2 through April, then switch it out for a custom while still playing FMO 3.

    Congrats on your successes! Just be patient and don’t get in a hurry. It takes time to let each script set itself up in the mind. I get excited and want to switch out scripts all the time but like most here, I’ve found that atleast 1 month per script is usually minimal for lasting results.


    gtbear
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    04/20/2014 at 5:36 am

    @keekeeros said:

    gtbear

    I also use bose Wi-Fi speakers, they give good sound – thinking about a surround sound system that might work better

    always pondering on what would work best

    As far as the file type goes, I am happy with the way the girl is doing with the mp3 format there is no doubt she is getting the silent scripts just fine. Concerning the expensive speakers, you will get better sound by far out of them … I need cheap and am going to try that first. The other thing about serious speakers is that you need a serious player to make them work… more dollars I don’t want to spend. I am pretty sure that all of trainers silver scripts are mp3s.


    gtbear
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    @gtbear said:

    @hotaceazn said:

    I am currently using a picture frame that is broken. The sound works, but the pictures do not. It is laying on my desk face down, plugged in collecting dust and pounding out the silents

    Also as an update, I am seeing rapid success in that the past week on no less then 3 occasions she called my sir and no less then 5 ties I told her to do something, she started to say no, I reinforced my dominance (voice and what I said) and she submitted.Very pleased so far. Will continue FMO 2 through April, then switch it out for a custom while still playing FMO 3.

    Congrats on your successes! Just be patient and don’t get in a hurry. It takes time to let each script set itself up in the mind. I get excited and want to switch out scripts all the time but like most here, I’ve found that atleast 1 month per script is usually minimal for lasting results.

    Of course, as long as you have been a member, I guess you would know all that… I was looking for the FMO scripts (text) in the library but haven’t found them yet… do you know where exactly the text version is?


    keekeeros
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    gtbear

    I play all files through my computer, if at some time you might want to change to the wma format you have to start fresh. the mp3 file is already compressed to the point of some loss. this means you have to copy or write your message to a voice file and save in the wma format.
    it seems that you are doing fine with the mp3 format and that is great, but in the long term with Wi-Fi speakers you might think about changing.
    just another idea to ponder. I also keep my files short and seams to work best, keep in mind that my girl is hard of hearing.


    hotaceazn
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    04/22/2014 at 2:22 am

    @gtbear said:

    @gtbear said:

    @hotaceazn said:

    I am currently using a picture frame that is broken. The sound works, but the pictures do not. It is laying on my desk face down, plugged in collecting dust and pounding out the silents

    Also as an update, I am seeing rapid success in that the past week on no less then 3 occasions she called my sir and no less then 5 ties I told her to do something, she started to say no, I reinforced my dominance (voice and what I said) and she submitted.Very pleased so far. Will continue FMO 2 through April, then switch it out for a custom while still playing FMO 3.

    Congrats on your successes! Just be patient and don’t get in a hurry. It takes time to let each script set itself up in the mind. I get excited and want to switch out scripts all the time but like most here, I’ve found that atleast 1 month per script is usually minimal for lasting results.

    Of course, as long as you have been a member, I guess you would know all that… I was looking for the FMO scripts (text) in the library but haven’t found them yet… do you know where exactly the text version is?

    I am not sure. I had downloaded it when I first joined. I would suggest asking Trainer.


    hotaceazn
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    04/25/2014 at 3:27 am

    Just an update – very pleased with what I am seeing. Playing the FOM 2 and 3, she is definitely making progress! My dilemma: do i switch over to 3, or do I keep 2. The custom I have focuses on submission blending in slave. I am beginning to think that blending it with 2 would be better, then I would play both 2 and custom for a month or two, then pull out 2, and play FOM 3 and custom. Your thoughts?


    gtbear
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    04/25/2014 at 5:05 am

    @hotaceazn said:

    Just an update – very pleased with what I am seeing. Playing the FOM 2 and 3, she is definitely making progress! My dilemma: do i switch over to 3, or do I keep 2. The custom I have focuses on submission blending in slave. I am beginning to think that blending it with 2 would be better, then I would play both 2 and custom for a month or two, then pull out 2, and play FOM 3 and custom. Your thoughts?

    That has the basic sorta fusion and base script concept that I am slowly working around to. It’s still in the primary stages but my intent is to end up with a base script and various short and highly directed ones as the need arises or the mood takes me.


    Tap
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    04/26/2014 at 1:44 am

    @hotaceazn said:

    Just an update – very pleased with what I am seeing. Playing the FOM 2 and 3, she is definitely making progress! My dilemma: do i switch over to 3, or do I keep 2. The custom I have focuses on submission blending in slave. I am beginning to think that blending it with 2 would be better, then I would play both 2 and custom for a month or two, then pull out 2, and play FOM 3 and custom. Your thoughts?

    I think a max 2 subliminals in a playlist yields the best results.


    hotaceazn
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    04/27/2014 at 10:34 am

    @Tap said:

    @hotaceazn said:

    Just an update – very pleased with what I am seeing. Playing the FOM 2 and 3, she is definitely making progress! My dilemma: do i switch over to 3, or do I keep 2. The custom I have focuses on submission blending in slave. I am beginning to think that blending it with 2 would be better, then I would play both 2 and custom for a month or two, then pull out 2, and play FOM 3 and custom. Your thoughts?

    I think a max 2 subliminals in a playlist yields the best results.

    What I meant was do I still keep FOM 2 playing and replace FOM3 with my custom, or do I drop FOM 2 and run my custom and FOM3.


    eldrin81
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    04/27/2014 at 12:34 pm

    I don’t think most are aware of the contents of any of the 3 scripts you mention, so it would be hard to advise on it.


    Tap
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    04/27/2014 at 4:52 pm

    Yes I don’t know what the scripts say. Did trainer post them in his ebook because I don’t see them.


    Fizbin
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    04/27/2014 at 5:40 pm

    FOM is probably not the best choice of shorthand for the Female Ownership series. It took me a long time to figure out what you meant, and I actually used those as the basis for several of my custom scripts. FMO, maybe, but this isn’t the most commonly used file set these days, so I would always be more complete in my description. They are some of the “oldest” sessions on the site.

    The scripts should be in the Mind Control section, which is mysteriously blank (probably got lost in the move). If you still have Silver access, the scripts are included in the mp3 download package. These are also VERY long in comparison to most of Trainer’s other files.


    hotaceazn
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    04/29/2014 at 1:05 am

    I didn’t even think that people might not be able to see the scripts! I have decided to go with Female ownership 2 and my custom. I will report a bit more frequently on changes.


    Fizbin
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    04/30/2014 at 4:18 am

    Well, it looks like the latest site remodel might have brought them back, so all is well. :)


    trainer81
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    04/30/2014 at 4:22 am

    Yeah the scripts are back :) It was an hour worth of uploading…


    hotaceazn
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    06/05/2014 at 9:32 am

    Hello! I know it has been a while – I did want to share my results so far. I had created a custom and was using pro sex together. I wasn’t really seeing much results, though her interest in sex was jumping up. At the beginning of May, I once again changed things – I cut away half of my custom, and changed the sex pro to say kinky sex instead of sex. The new sex script is 3 minutes, my custom is 4. The sex one repeats 4 times within the 4 minutes, and I have set it up where the frame plays KS (kinky sex), Custom, and KS, and I started it at the top of the hour. KS messages are heard 48 times in an hour, custom is heard 6. I started this new setup last Monday. Last night while she was sleeping, she was moaning and humping my leg till I woke her up and went at it for 45 minutes with her calling my sir and telling me I can do anything to her body – it is completely mine. Obviously, everything is building on top of the previous and I will continue to play both of these through July. I dont plan on doing any changes, unless it is to gradually turn her into more of a sub in a a true dom/sub relationship.


    gtbear
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    06/05/2014 at 9:35 pm

    hotaceazn,

    Congrats! Nice to hear of such great progress.

    The manner of achieving that progress is very interesting as well. Thanks for posting it.


    hotaceazn
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    06/28/2014 at 9:23 pm

    Well, it has been almost a month. The scripts have been playing and while we are out i make sure to play them on my phone.

    I was somewhat disappointed to not really see a major difference except for the 5th. I then realized, as she was talking, she is submitting to me and I need to take the lead! For those of you reading this, looking from the outside, you are probably thinking Uh, no kidding Sherlock! LOL

    So this morning I told her to finish what she is doing and we are going to have sex. She said ok, she will do her wifely duty. She then put her stuff away and off we go! I am going to be taking more of a charge in general and will let you know how things go.


    J66R
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    06/30/2014 at 10:40 pm

    Great news!

    Looks like you have had the same epiphany many of us have had. So often we want the women to submit but we also want them to initiate. It seems that in many, if not most, female minds, those two are mutually exclusive.

    Then there is the fact that if we do not take control, they can’t submit to us. Seems logical after you figure it out. But, you’re right. There are other threads out there that discuss this at length but, the basic concept is that if your scripts are telling her to submit to you, they are conveying the idea that you are an alpha male, so, you gotta play the part and be that alpha she’ll be willing to submit to.

    We have all been there. So don’t worry so much about what we think. haha. Because most of us have had our “Sherlock” moment. And once in a while we get lost in what we’re doing and we have to have another.

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